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I need some advice please.

Bro

I gotta agree with litleb. I would stick with 1 compound for your first cycle. Str8 test. Now you said that you already took your test and deca, what are you asking about if you already started using?

If you are going to use multiple compounds, I would NOT reccomend starting with DECA. Use your test E and if you absolutley are set on it use Dbol for only 4 weeks at max of 50mg/day. Remember this is your first. You have no idea how your bodies going to react. If you start using multiple coumpounds you take the chance of having a problem and not knowing what its from.

You need to be very careful with this. I promise you bro, if you mess with the animal it will hurt you if your not prepared.

good luck

bverysmart
 
you already started, i woulda stuck with test and dbol,- dbol = short half live.. test e and deca --long lasting--....not a need to worry, i just prefer to see how my body reacts to 1 thing at a time....
 
But just remember you need to be consistent with diet and taing and keep your head on straight bro. Good luck brotha, sounds good
 
Ulter said:
DO NOT USE NOLVA WITH DECA.
Other than that, like they said, dbol for 4 weeks.

Use AIFM throughout the cycle to handle the estrogen and bloat. Otherwise you're going to look like a Thanksgiving Day Parade Balloon. Also you it for your PCT of HCG. I would get Proviron and or Clomid in there too.


he could still use nolva for pct? or am i wrong? I will never post on what i have not tried, and if i do i will say so, i have used nolva during pct after deca+test cycle, with clomid.. no hcg at the time.. recovered fine. i may be misunderstanding what u meant, if so i am sorry..
 
Nolva causes an increase in Progesterone expression. Deca is a progestin. Men's bodies don't like progestins or progesterone because they cause gyno, high BP, etc. Since there are so many better choices now it's better to tell guys not to use Nolva with Deca. If they are progesterone sensitive it's not good. And there's no way for you to know whether he is going to have a flair up or not.
The deca will be there for weeks so it's not good to use nolva for that PCT.
 
Ulter said:
Nolva causes an increase in Progesterone expression. Deca is a progestin. Men's bodies don't like progestins or progesterone because they cause gyno, high BP, etc. Since there are so many better choices now it's better to tell guys not to use Nolva with Deca. If they are progesterone sensitive it's not good. And there's no way for you to know whether he is going to have a flair up or not.
The deca will be there for weeks so it's not good to use nolva for that PCT.


Thanks for the info bro! :)
 
Ulter said:
DO NOT USE NOLVA WITH DECA.
Other than that, like they said, dbol for 4 weeks.

Use AIFM throughout the cycle to handle the estrogen and bloat. Otherwise you're going to look like a Thanksgiving Day Parade Balloon. Also you it for your PCT of HCG. I would get Proviron and or Clomid in there too.

Dont use Nolva with deca? And IN CAPITAL LETTERS no less. Is there some heretofore unknown danger you're trying to imply? This is a new one on me.

shouldnt use nolva, but use aifm instead. OK.

I'll save the smilies, and just ask if you could please give a technical explanation of why as to both statements. with study references please.

Isnt mainstream thinking that progesterone gyno requires a small amount of estrogen to manifest, and nolva COULD help PREVENT IT? I've never heard or read of it now being a risk to increase the chances of progesterone gyno.

also, shouldnt there be a disclaimer in your sig indicating that you sell AIFM so people can judge the objectivity of the advice? Doesnt mean its a bad thing, just something people should know. doesnt that sound reasonable?

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Ulter said:
DO NOT USE NOLVA WITH DECA.
Other than that, like they said, dbol for 4 weeks.

Use AIFM throughout the cycle to handle the estrogen and bloat. Otherwise you're going to look like a Thanksgiving Day Parade Balloon. Also you it for your PCT of HCG. I would get Proviron and or Clomid in there too.
good advice.
nothing wrong with a test deca dbal cycle like that.its a clasic bulk cycle used by many.
I have don 3 of them once a ran the dbal all the way through and I had no problems.

some hcg and clomid for pct whould be grate.but yes 4-6 weeks of dbal would be just fine.
 
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