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shamrockbear1
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dear friends I will recap below the thread I have been working on I need more input on what I should do!!! I need some good advice if you have any this can affect the rest of my life ! I Need the fellow bodybuilding bros!
Shamrockbear original post wrote:
Androgel and low t levels
Bad news my homies I took a test. level check and its been 2 years since last cycle and and the count was a low 314 which I can feel the decrease, the natural levels are from 300-1100 so does any one have advice for this any ideas what would work best for getting my system back or have I done some serious damage that can not be repaired anyone know or have some advice let me know..
Does anyone have any ideas clomid, hcg, any thing post cycle I can do to get the system back in action.
I just started androgel 1% transdermal but needed some input besides that.
bear
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slammer
Run a search for "TRT" and "Hrt" plenty of info here on it. Flex, Ironman845, myself and others have posted plenty of info on this.....
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mighty
you are still within normal range, you are just at the lower end of the spectrum. what was your test levels before you started cycling and how many cycles have you done?
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shamrockbear
dont know this is the first test I have ever done for this but I can tell my sex drive is way down I used to be a porn star not Im not as hard as I used to be and and horny either... This sucks
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joeg
I am 30something and test levels drop to around 200 when off cycle. Doc put me on androgel and they are around 900 now. I thought it was not going to work because it was a gel but seems to work wonders.
The problem is the price. Around 180 per month. My insurance covers about half. Seld medication use injections is much cheaper. The doc now said he can order from a company in the mid-west for 20 per month. I will let you know who it is when I get it.
He insists that I don't use anabolics any more and wants regular blood work so this is going to be hard to juggle.
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ironman_845
shamrockbear - how old are you? as you get older nat t production declines.. have you been using prohormones since your last cycle? If you're on HRT you can forget about your nat t levels coming back up.. If you're 40 something or older and don't have plans to have any more children I'd just stay on hrt but would really push the doc for test depot.. if you're younger or still have thoughts about having a family I'd stay off everything and run clomid/nolva 50mg/20mg for a few months..
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shamrockbear
well im 32 and I want to maybe have kids and I think for my age it is too low. the other problem is I dont want to be on hrt therapy for the rest of my life. I was thinking of just trying a 90 day cycle of the androgel and then see if my body can mimic or bounce back but I dont know?
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mighty
i would take ironmans advice and run some clomid, nolva and hcg before you touch anything. on you past cycle did you run pct? and did you do excessively long cycles?
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slammer
Solid advice Ironman.....
So much for using the search engine.....
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shamrockbear
nope just started the androgel day4 I dont know but the doc said that wouldnt help and its been over two years my estridol level were 62 and they are supposed to be 60 so no need for nolva but will the clomid really help? after 2 years?
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ironman_845
Stop using androgel and everything else if you want to restore natural t production.. run nolva not because it blocks estrogen but because it stimulates recovery. clomid does this too but run both to cover all bases..
Have you told your doc about aas usage? If he doesn't have much experiance with this he's not going to be much help..
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Shamrockbear original post wrote:
Androgel and low t levels
Bad news my homies I took a test. level check and its been 2 years since last cycle and and the count was a low 314 which I can feel the decrease, the natural levels are from 300-1100 so does any one have advice for this any ideas what would work best for getting my system back or have I done some serious damage that can not be repaired anyone know or have some advice let me know..
Does anyone have any ideas clomid, hcg, any thing post cycle I can do to get the system back in action.
I just started androgel 1% transdermal but needed some input besides that.
bear
---------------------
slammer
Run a search for "TRT" and "Hrt" plenty of info here on it. Flex, Ironman845, myself and others have posted plenty of info on this.....
--------------------------------
mighty
you are still within normal range, you are just at the lower end of the spectrum. what was your test levels before you started cycling and how many cycles have you done?
----------------------------
shamrockbear
dont know this is the first test I have ever done for this but I can tell my sex drive is way down I used to be a porn star not Im not as hard as I used to be and and horny either... This sucks
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joeg
I am 30something and test levels drop to around 200 when off cycle. Doc put me on androgel and they are around 900 now. I thought it was not going to work because it was a gel but seems to work wonders.
The problem is the price. Around 180 per month. My insurance covers about half. Seld medication use injections is much cheaper. The doc now said he can order from a company in the mid-west for 20 per month. I will let you know who it is when I get it.
He insists that I don't use anabolics any more and wants regular blood work so this is going to be hard to juggle.
__________________
ironman_845
shamrockbear - how old are you? as you get older nat t production declines.. have you been using prohormones since your last cycle? If you're on HRT you can forget about your nat t levels coming back up.. If you're 40 something or older and don't have plans to have any more children I'd just stay on hrt but would really push the doc for test depot.. if you're younger or still have thoughts about having a family I'd stay off everything and run clomid/nolva 50mg/20mg for a few months..
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shamrockbear
well im 32 and I want to maybe have kids and I think for my age it is too low. the other problem is I dont want to be on hrt therapy for the rest of my life. I was thinking of just trying a 90 day cycle of the androgel and then see if my body can mimic or bounce back but I dont know?
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mighty
i would take ironmans advice and run some clomid, nolva and hcg before you touch anything. on you past cycle did you run pct? and did you do excessively long cycles?
___________________________
slammer
Solid advice Ironman.....
So much for using the search engine.....
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shamrockbear
nope just started the androgel day4 I dont know but the doc said that wouldnt help and its been over two years my estridol level were 62 and they are supposed to be 60 so no need for nolva but will the clomid really help? after 2 years?
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ironman_845
Stop using androgel and everything else if you want to restore natural t production.. run nolva not because it blocks estrogen but because it stimulates recovery. clomid does this too but run both to cover all bases..
Have you told your doc about aas usage? If he doesn't have much experiance with this he's not going to be much help..
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