I need a history lesson on the Israelies and Palestinians

[the nature boy]

I think its in the parallel verse in the koran that says "thou shalt strap bombs to your body and blow up civilians whilst they shop, drink and eat"

first of all, I've never said killing of innocents is justified. can you not deny that people were driven from their homes and placed in refugee camps? And can you not deny that isreal has killed innocent civilians with it's military? how is that different than people strapping bombs to themselves? oh so it's okay if a military unit kills civilians? uh ok

 

[primetime21]

oh yeah.. about the Mein Kampf reference.. eat my ass. You cannot throw that bullshit at me... it just will not stick.

how about this... straight from the good old Talmud.

The Jews believe that anyone who can not trace an ancestor through Israel to Mount Sinai, is a part of that serpent seed. This serpent seed is identified throughout Talmudic teachings without further identity as "idolaters." In the Talmud, Christians are called "beasts" and "idolaters." (Case Of The Nazarene Reopened, Hyman E. Goldin, pp 423, 431-432, 775, & 781). This derogatory racism and bigotry identifies Christians as the serpent's seed.

Talmud, Zohar 1,219b: "Captivity of Jews ends when Christian Princes die."

prove that wrong.

hahahahaha, thats what you bring up? i will answer that question unlike the way you NEVER answered my questions ( i am presuming that you literate of course). I do NOT refute what the talmud says in any part. I do not try to twist the words around to meet my goals. I will say that it is hundreds of hundreds of years old. And i would similarly not expect a christian to defend the crusades or to accuse all arabs of being barbaric despite the fact that some decided to blow themselves up and kill innocent americans on september 11th. Or if you read any other biblical book and you will see that christians hated and muslims hated and jews hated. Its 2002!! get over it. What are we doing today? I dont hold myself to books written hundreds of years before i was born, yet some muslims are still as barbaric as they were hundreds of years ago.

Now can you find me how many chaims or moshes that have blown up the twin towers or are currently on trial for rape or robbery? And how many arab nations still dont let their women vote or walk in the streets free to wear what they want? Arabs still arent allowed to vote in their OWN countries. Fighting a moral war with jews is not your best route.

and are you now going to go through all of my posts and answer my questions. Or shall i call you and read them to you? Or will you just respond with another insightful "fuck off" post?

 

[dballer]

hahahahaha, thats what you bring up? i will answer that question unlike the way you NEVER answered my questions ( i am presuming that you literate of course). I do NOT refute what the talmud says in any part. I do not try to twist the words around to meet my goals. I will say that it is hundreds of hundreds of years old. And i would similarly not expect a christian to defend the crusades or to accuse all arabs of being barbaric despite the fact that some decided to blow themselves up and kill innocent americans on september 11th. Or if you read any other biblical book and you will see that christians hated and muslims hated and jews hated. Its 2002!! get over it. What are we doing today? I dont hold myself to books written hundreds of years before i was born, yet some muslims are still as barbaric as they were hundreds of years ago.

Now can you find me how many chaims or moshes that have blown up the twin towers or are currently on trial for rape or robbery? And how many arab nations still dont let their women vote or walk in the streets free to wear what they want? Arabs still arent allowed to vote in their OWN countries. Fighting a moral war with jews is not your best route.

and are you now going to go through all of my posts and answer my questions. Or shall i call you and read them to you? Or will you just respond with another insightful "fuck off" post?

well those posts are thousands of seconds old.

So if the effect of evil wears off with age.. does this mean that you dismiss the holocaust???

 

[primetime21]

first of all, I've never said killing of innocents is justified. can you not deny that people were driven from their homes and placed in refugee camps? And can you not deny that isreal has killed innocent civilians with it's military? how is that different than people strapping bombs to themselves? oh so it's okay if a military unit kills civilians? uh ok

people were put in refugee camps and israel has done things it should not have done. But remember 1 thing nature BOY, israel has 1 goal now. Peace. It is not trying to win back land or gain more land. It just wants peace. It is negotiating for MERE peace. Palestinians are trying GAIN land that is simply NOT theirs. There was never a palesitine and there is no MAP that says otherwise.

Israel has killed civilians for sure. THey do not target them. If they go into a town to get terrorists and 20 kids are accidently killed. Thats tough shit and a hell of alot different than if a suicide bombers ONLY goal is to kill civilians.

Werent indians driven from their homes also and killed? it happens in history. Israel will stop all of it NOw, if you just give them peace and take 90 percent of what was offered. The last thing the arabs want is a war with israel because they know they cant win.

 

[dballer]

people were put in refugee camps and israel has done things it should not have done. But remember 1 thing nature BOY, israel has 1 goal now. Peace. It is not trying to win back land or gain more land. It just wants peace. It is negotiating for MERE peace. Palestinians are trying GAIN land that is simply NOT theirs. There was never a palesitine and there is no MAP that says otherwise.

Israel has killed civilians for sure. THey do not target them. If they go into a town to get terrorists and 20 kids are accidently killed. Thats tough shit and a hell of alot different than if a suicide bombers ONLY goal is to kill civilians.

Werent indians driven from their homes also and killed? it happens in history. Israel will stop all of it NOw, if you just give them peace and take 90 percent of what was offered. The last thing the arabs want is a war with israel because they know they cant win.

you are one sick fuck.

 

[primetime21]

well those posts are thousands of seconds old.

So if the effect of evil wears off with age.. does this mean that you dismiss the holocaust???

so you wont answer my questions again? you obviously know you are wrong.

Do i dismiss the holocaust? of course not! Am i going to strap a bomb to my back and blow up berlin and some german kids to prove a point? no! want to know why? i am not an animal! It is a sin to kill oneself for ANY reason in judaism. Muslims have a similar law?

and youre stupidity is plain/ THe talmud says things that are bad/ And you compare that to killing 6 million jews?? hahaha. you make me laugh. Do you work parties?

 

[buddy28]

And again why do arabs need 15 countries and israel cant have any? what do you propose dballer? DO you thinkthe camp david agreement was fair? or do you want israel to give up all of israel?

Sounds good primetime ---

Then why dont we section off a chunck of florida and give it to the Jews?? I mean they deserve a country of their own right.

 

[Prometheus]

how about this... straight from the good old Talmud.

The Jews believe that anyone who can not trace an ancestor through Israel to Mount Sinai, is a part of that serpent seed. This serpent seed is identified throughout Talmudic teachings without further identity as "idolaters." In the Talmud, Christians are called "beasts" and "idolaters." (Case Of The Nazarene Reopened, Hyman E. Goldin, pp 423, 431-432, 775, & 781). This derogatory racism and bigotry identifies Christians as the serpent's seed.

Talmud, Zohar 1,219b: "Captivity of Jews ends when Christian Princes die."

dballer, do you have any links to this? thx.

 

[dballer]

dballer, do you have any links to this? thx.

http://members.aol.com/acts0412/talmud.html

 

[Prometheus]

thanks dballer