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I have been training this young man at my gym for free as a mentor kind of.

He is one of those Natural types where you just know it time he could be one of the best.

He actually listens to what I say, and does it buy the book.
In less the 3 weeks of training him he looks VERY different. Bigger, stronger, faster.

It very rewarding Because I think he is aware of whats being passed to him.
And we are becoming friends.

The only thing that sucks is that he looks better then me already :(
and it looks like he should be training me instead of me training him LOLOLlollol :artist:

Tell me if you guys see these "BEFORE" Pics

AGAIN THESE ARE ONLY BEFORE PICS

AFTER PICS WILL BE POSTED IN 6-8 or when his new gains solidify under our new training style together:)

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happens all the time, i am considering doing the strength training for a local highschool football team. One of the teachers plays softball with me, and knows i know my stuff.. only problem is these kids have so much access to so many supplements, they are all looking for the magic pill...
 
OMEGA said:
I have been training this young man at my gym for free as a mentor kind of.

He is one of those Natural types where you just know it time he could be one of the best.

He actually listens to what I say, and does it buy the book.
In less the 3 weeks of training him he looks VERY different. Bigger, stronger, faster.

It very rewarding Because I think he is aware of whats being passed to him.
And we are becoming friends.

The only thing that sucks is that he looks better then me already :(
and it looks like he should be training me instead of me training him LOLOLlollol :artist:


awesome; wish someone would have helped me out more.
 
OMEGA said:
I have been training this young man at my gym for free as a mentor kind of.

He is one of those Natural types where you just know it time he could be one of the best.

He actually listens to what I say, and does it buy the book.
In less the 3 weeks of training him he looks VERY different. Bigger, stronger, faster.

It very rewarding Because I think he is aware of whats being passed to him.
And we are becoming friends.

The only thing that sucks is that he looks better then me already :(
and it looks like he should be training me instead of me training him LOLOLlollol :artist:
did you push some lipoflame and amp02 on him? hes been getting jacked because of that right?
 
newbiebynature said:
did you push some lipoflame and amp02 on him? hes been getting jacked because of that right?


no Amplify02 is too strong for him

he Loves LIPOLAME though
 
SpyWizard said:
happens all the time, i am considering doing the strength training for a local highschool football team. One of the teachers plays softball with me, and knows i know my stuff.. only problem is these kids have so much access to so many supplements, they are all looking for the magic pill...


agreed bro

I say go for it with the Team, its VERY rewarding to see good things come when people trust your opinion
 
** Proprietary **

"One hundred years from now, it will not matter what my bank account was, how
big my house was, or what kind of car I drove. But the world may be a little
better, because I was important in the life of a child." - Forest Witcraft
(renowned scholar, teacher and Boy Scout administrator)
"child" might be how you take it. to me, it's has become what life is all about bro. nice to know there is some "kids" out there that can appreciate what you are doing for him. he probably wont understand it until he is in your shoes. what it's all about.
 
mobro said:
** Proprietary **

"One hundred years from now, it will not matter what my bank account was, how
big my house was, or what kind of car I drove. But the world may be a little
better, because I was important in the life of a child." - Forest Witcraft
(renowned scholar, teacher and Boy Scout administrator)
"child" might be how you take it. to me, it's has become what life is all about bro. nice to know there is some "kids" out there that can appreciate what you are doing for him. he probably wont understand it until he is in your shoes. what it's all about.

Awesome Quote!!!!!!!!!
 
MichaelMacGyver said:
Hope you have a long friendship.

I hope so too.
hes a good bro

plus I really think this young man could be in a Body Building Magazine or at least derive some benefit from his "marketability"

he has THAT much potential even in his natural state.
 
mobro said:
** Proprietary **

"One hundred years from now, it will not matter what my bank account was, how
big my house was, or what kind of car I drove. But the world may be a little
better, because I was important in the life of a child." - Forest Witcraft
(renowned scholar, teacher and Boy Scout administrator)
"child" might be how you take it. to me, it's has become what life is all about bro. nice to know there is some "kids" out there that can appreciate what you are doing for him. he probably wont understand it until he is in your shoes. what it's all about.


AWESOME

serious I am not too mature yet but when I help the young man,
I envy how nice he I naturally and I just don't want him to make the mistakes I have.
 
serious I am not too mature yet but when I help the young man,
I envy how nice he I naturally and I just don't want him to make the mistakes I have.
sounds pretty mature, like a man, to me.
 
I will never forget people like you. When I was a kid, just starting out lifting, a few good people in the gym really helped me out and I will never forget them. Neither will he OMEGA. I'm going on 32 right now and I started at 14 and I still remember all the shit they said and did to help me. You want to know what impressed me even more? The fact that they were juicers who told me to wait until I was at least 25 to use gear unless I planned to compete. That showed me that they were genuine people with my best interests in mind. It's hard to find people like that because they could have made a buck from my inexperience. Instead they really helped. That shit's never forgotten.
 
Ive got alot of respect for someone that can help out someone like that. Alot of guys see potential and just get pissed of that the guy looks better than them with only a couple of years of training under there belt.
 
OMEGA said:
I have been training this young man at my gym for free as a mentor kind of.

He is one of those Natural types where you just know it time he could be one of the best.

He actually listens to what I say, and does it buy the book.
In less the 3 weeks of training him he looks VERY different. Bigger, stronger, faster.

It very rewarding Because I think he is aware of whats being passed to him.
And we are becoming friends.

The only thing that sucks is that he looks better then me already :(
and it looks like he should be training me instead of me training him LOLOLlollol :artist:

Talk him into a blood test. I have seen these "wonders" before and was always curious about their natural levels.
 
OMEGA said:
agreed bro

I say go for it with the Team, its VERY rewarding to see good things come when people trust your opinion


now if you guys would stop running out of product, or give me a license to resell it i'd be golden..

we'll see how it goes..
 
I'll tell you what if his training goes well I will post pics

I will even have him hold a bottle of Amplify02 in one hand and LIPOFLAME in another

hehe no really he does not like Amplify02 but Loves LIPOFLAME.


Spy dont worry in the future your one of the good bros:)
 
thanks Gentleman for all the kind words

believe me I am NO GURU but I know some stuff pretty well, and it feels really good to know its helping the person

Also I noticed by helping him has helped me too :)

like I had forgotten som things in my own training or diet and was only reminded of it when helping him


I was like " oh I just helped my self too"

sounds :rainbow: " I know but its still pretty neat
 
hehe I got his permission to post pics of him

His Pre Lifting Pics are pretty Metrosexual lol

we will post pics in about 8 weeks give or take 2 weeks

by the way he is is NATURAL...........
 
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OH MAN the kid is GETTING YOKED

we have before Camera phone pics ( No head shots as he is in law enforcement or one of the Public service trades I forget which one)

and will post after pics with a Bottle of Amplify 02 in one hand and LIPOFLAME in the other lololol ( No head shots as he is in law enforcement or one of the Public service trades I forget which one)

The kid is Getting WAAAAY developed
all from my training philosophies, I am no guru but its NICE to know I was right :)

its awesome he is really starting to appreciate all of it

and so am I

PS he is natural so dont expect a mass monster expect Quality Muscle
;)
 
You should be flattered that he is coming along so good with your help. It could have turned out that he didnt make any gains at all and blamed you for it. All good teachers want their students to surpass them because it reflects on the abilities of the teachers.
 
superdave said:
All good teachers want their students to surpass them because it reflects on the abilities of the teachers.

I just don't want him to make the mistakes I have.

I also dont want him to fall victim to the advances of false people who are NOT his friend.

I don't like when good people get used, it makes me extremely angry.
 
OMEGA said:
I just don't want him to make the mistakes I have.

I also dont want him to fall victim to the advances of false people who are NOT his friend.

I don't like when good people get used, it makes me extremely angry.
You can lead a horse to water but you cant make him drink.
 
superdave said:
You can lead a horse to water but you cant make him drink.


agreed thats true :(

I don't expect anything in return from the young man
 
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Tell me if you guys see these "BEFORE" Pics

AGAIN THESE ARE ONLY BEFORE PICS

AFTER PICS WILL BE POSTED IN 6-8 or when his new gains solidify

under the new training style

4mrebk2.jpg


541uy5c.jpg


54cx4qa.jpg
 
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My son is one of those 'kids'. (college) They are trying to increase his speed there.(their fullback) Trainer told him that only IGF can increase your speed, but must be done with speed training. Said that speed training without this only helps .1 in the forty. IGF will trim .3 or greater. I am skeptical.Advise?
OMEGA said:
agreed bro

I say go for it with the Team, its VERY rewarding to see good things come when people trust your opinion
 
rvars said:
My son is one of those 'kids'. (college) They are trying to increase his speed there.(their fullback) Trainer told him that only IGF can increase your speed, but must be done with speed training. Said that speed training without this only helps .1 in the forty. IGF will trim .3 or greater. I am skeptical.Advise?


I think a trainer that recommended a Drug to increase Speed is an not very good.

Using a Modified Parachute ( wind resistance) available at Elite Fitness Stores is a much better option and its not a drug
 
OMEGA said:
I have been training this young man at my gym for free as a mentor kind of.

He is one of those Natural types where you just know it time he could be one of the best.

He actually listens to what I say, and does it buy the book.
In less the 3 weeks of training him he looks VERY different. Bigger, stronger, faster.

It very rewarding Because I think he is aware of whats being passed to him.
And we are becoming friends.

The only thing that sucks is that he looks better then me already :(
and it looks like he should be training me instead of me training him LOLOLlollol :artist:

Thats nice of you OMEGA...its like your in the Big Brother Program. BUMP to you!
 
Omega, my man you are a BIG dude, don't underestimate yourself!!

As for your new training friend, he has great potential. He reminds me a lot of myself when I was 17-19. I was 6'4 and 144lbs and within a few months I was 190 but ripped still! It just happened naturally and quick. I see this kid getting really huge and strong under your expert eye. Does he take the Amp stack? I can see that supercharging his gains and putting him to a whole new level quicker than ever!

I see fantastic potential in this young man. He looks better already than most guys I see on boards out there taking a boat load of drugs. Sad but true :/ All of the ug labs and cheap prices are making people think MORE MORE MORE! NO NO NO! Proper nutrition, training and rest with good supplements and when ready small amounts of gear as icing on the cake. This kid will go far with you, I know it!

Omega you are a great person to take someone under your wing and help them out. Not many would be so kind these days. Everyone is out for themselves. Not you, not ever. A true brother of iron. :)
 
Hey C3 thanks :)

right now its a chore for me to remind him to EAT PROTIEN every day lol let alone other supps ;)

I get pissed at him cus I know he slips on eating protien

He does not like Amplify02 ( too strong) but likes LIPOFLAME


Right now Training Principle is the key, and then hopefully Diet Next, and then in the future who knows.

I tell you what helping him is making me put my money where my mouth is , I am kinda lax when it comes to applying what I know to my self and helping him is forcing me to be more proper with my self.


Thanks for sharing you expereinces bro
I never knew you were ever under 200 and now your 270 LOL

hehe
 
PS:
he has been lifting for 2-3 years I believe ( not 100% Sure)
He lifts mostly in an insinctual circuit style training way from when I watched him before.

and then when we spoke I was like "NO NO NO bro " thats NOT how you do it in my opinion

for me and for those I train with the AMOUNT of weight MEANS NOTHING to us.
basically I view Bodybuilding as HUMAN ART like the Moulding Clay or Refining Marble

if you can lift heavy on certian movements by default then super
But I DETEST those who body build and think they need to lift like a POWERLIFTER

in fact I find it Insulting.
 
OMEGA said:
PS:
he has been lifting for 2-3 years I believe ( not 100% Sure)
He lifts mostly in an insinctual circuit style training way from when I watched him before.

and then when we spoke I was like "NO NO NO bro " thats NOT how you do it in my opinion

for me and for those I train with the AMOUNT of weight MEANS NOTHING to us.
basically I view Bodybuilding as HUMAN ART like the Moulding Clay or Refining Marble

if you can lift heavy on certian movements by default then super
But I DETEST those who body build and think they need to lift like a POWERLIFTER

in fact I find it Insulting.


Fantastic post!
 
OMEGA said:
Hey C3 thanks :)

right now its a chore for me to remind him to EAT PROTIEN every day lol let alone other supps ;)

I get pissed at him cus I know he slips on eating protien

He does not like Amplify02 ( too strong) but likes LIPOFLAME


Right now Training Principle is the key, and then hopefully Diet Next, and then in the future who knows.

I tell you what helping him is making me put my money where my mouth is , I am kinda lax when it comes to applying what I know to my self and helping him is forcing me to be more proper with my self.


Thanks for sharing you expereinces bro
I never knew you were ever under 200 and now your 270 LOL

hehe


Brother, I was a mess! I was 144.5lbs exactly. I remember because I weighed myself three times the day I started training. I had a cheap plastic weight set, a $9.00 bottle of creatine and 2 20lb db's and thought I was going to take on the world! Then with what little I had, I got to 190 but I never got any further. I didn't know I needed to increase my weights and eat more lol. Hey, I was a kid and ignorant about these things at the time! I wish I had someone like you around to show me the ropes.

Then once I joined a gym and had access to all the weight I want and read Arnold Encyclopedia of Bodybuilding, I started eating more. I took his basic program expect spaced it out with everything once a week. I did the chest/back workout Mon, Legs on Wednesday and the Shoulder/Arm one on Friday. Then I shot to 218lbs in a few more months. I couldn't get past 220 though. So I started reading, reading and reading. After a year and a half or so and the age of 21, I decided to do 150mgs of eq a week and found out it was fake! Then I finally got some brovel test 200 and did 400mgs a week for 8 weeks and went to 244lbs. I was bloated and oily but I thought I was king shit! LOL I think we all do with the first one. Hard to believe that was already 6 1/2 years ago! Yikes!

I know this guy will make wonderful progress with you guiding him. I agree, I didn't think about it but yes, Amplify would be too strong for him now. It really is something that can kick your behind! I think a high protein, moderate carb and good fat (olive oil, natural pb, etc) diet along with some Gcovery and RawMcc will have him blowing up.

I remember you were very kind to me when I was around 23 and wrote me out a detailed training program for free. I didn't even buy one of your product (Gplenish at the time) and you took the time to write to me and help me out. With that program I really was able to take things to the next level.

I and a lot of people at this board owe a lot to a fantastic vet like you. This guy is so very lucky and fortunate to have you right there in person set for set showing him the ropes. I look forward to his progress pics, because I know he will make big changes with the big man in charge :)
 
and he's natural? at 22? and you are going to train him? for free?

I HATE guys like that! lol
I work my ass off and, while I might be bigger, I don't have near the genetics that he does. genetics suck!
 
mobro said:
and he's natural? at 22? and you are going to train him? for free?

I HATE guys like that! lol
I work my ass off and, while I might be bigger, I don't have near the genetics that he does. genetics suck!

yes for Free :)
hey I might finally get a training partner again if this works out well:)

In his circuit style training he looks good and had a degree of endurance and strength. But no where near where I think he could go.

This will sound stupid but all I was thinking was:

" Let me show you the TRUE nature of the force"
like Darth Vader would say or something like that. heheeh


on a side note I cannot believe HOW PETTY alot of the people are in the gym.
The first two weeks as I was training him I got these looks from other trainers that were not so good, and the young man got looks from his so called friends as if he were lame or some shit.

NOW only after a handful of weeks his "friends" kiss his ass, and the trainers are like "somethings going on with those two" like they know we are achieving something and are mildly jealous.

I find it pathetic when others find negative emotions when others are starting to do well what the hell is up with that?

I would be happy as can be if I saw someone improving, NOT jealous.
 
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People can be very jealous bastards at the gym! When I got out of the ER and was 216lbs or so, they all seemed so happy! But when I got back to the 250 range and now 270ish within a month and a half they all seemed even nastier. I catch them looking out of the corner of their eyes. One even had the nerve to come up to me and ask "Why do you like to get so big? I mean whats the point?" This same guy has been going to the gym for 4 years that I know of and looks exactly the SAME! I told him "Because I can and because of genetics." I thought of being more nasty and saying something mean but it's not my nature and I prefer to just let jealous/negative people be. They are miserable enough in their own lives, otherwise they wouldn't try to project that onto others.

Let them give you and your new found friend a hard time. You will both have the last laugh. It seems you already are! My wife and I have very few friends and I mean that literally. We do not let negative into our lives. If someone is like that, we cut them off, unless of course they absoloutly need help, then like a sucker I am there for them. Go figure. :/

Good luck with this Omega. I know this kid is in the right hands my friend. And you are right, just as his body grows, your spirit grows for the goodness of it as well. You are a kind soul, I always knew it. :)
 
it is hard to find good friends. seems like everybody wants to start some drama or cause trouble for others.
 
Update:

the young man is doing VERY well but he is slipping on protein in his diet and I Know it, and it starting to upset me cus its the one thing he is not listening to me about!!!!!!!!!!!!!:mad:

I tell him to eat and he is just not hearing it lol

if he does not start eating I am going to stop training him
 
OMEGA said:
Update:

the young man is doing VERY well but he is slipping on protein in his diet and I Know it, and it starting to upset me cus its the one thing he is not listening to me about!!!!!!!!!!!!!:mad:

I tell him to eat and he is just not hearing it lol

if he does not start eating I am going to stop training him
Give him a good spanking!!!

Why doesn't anybody understand that that is the most fundamental part of bodybuilding?
 
most people do not understand what we mean by eating. they simply assume that 3 meals, sometimes skip breakfast, is doing good. you might need to show him exactly what you are talking about. and i know better than to think you are giving up on him that quick
 
UPDATE:

ok he if finally listening to my nuanced diet stuff and FOLLOWING THROUGH ON IT

yet again he made a jump in progress.:) in less then a week

we will post pics in about 6 weeks from this date

PS I am just posting this thread for fun, I am NO "GURU" or anything special
its just fun:)
 
OMEGA said:
I have been training this young man at my gym for free as a mentor kind of.

He is one of those Natural types where you just know it time he could be one of the best.

He actually listens to what I say, and does it buy the book.
In less the 3 weeks of training him he looks VERY different. Bigger, stronger, faster.

It very rewarding Because I think he is aware of whats being passed to him.
And we are becoming friends.

The only thing that sucks is that he looks better then me already :(
and it looks like he should be training me instead of me training him LOLOLlollol :artist:

Tell me if you guys see these "BEFORE" Pics

AGAIN THESE ARE ONLY BEFORE PICS

AFTER PICS WILL BE POSTED IN 6-8 or when his new gains solidify under our new training style together:)

4mrebk2.jpg


541uy5c.jpg


54cx4qa.jpg


You know Bro, I hope this doesn't sound cheesey but as I think of what your doing for this young man I can't help but think of what the many hockey coachs and parents taught and mentored me with as I was a young, lost and angry young man.

It's not that this boy is/was like me but it's that he sees an adult taking interest in his development, it may be on the physical side but it is also registering with him mentally as well.

I know it's something as simple as "the gym" but my eyes cannot help but fill with tears, Because I know this will stay with him for the rest of his life and more than likely pass it on!

I'm proud of you and I don't even know you! How does that work EH!?
 
GUESS said:
and mentored me with as I was a young, lost and angry young man.


I FAILED so many of my Teachers. And it makes me sad to this day.......

When I help the Young Man I make it clear I don't want anything from him and that we are EQUALS.


Also this is NOT just about lifting, I tell him NOT to be cocky, not to use external appearance as a vehicle for himself, not to USE women, to not register the Jealousy and bringing down that others seem to try to do to him, and above all to be Nicer and Nicer as he grows even when no one else is willign too.
 
OMEGA said:
I FAILED so many of my Teachers. And it makes me sad to this day.......

When I help the Young Man I make it clear I don't want anything from him and that we are EQUALS.


Also this is NOT just about lifting, I tell him NOT to be cocky, not to use external appearance as a vehicle for himself, not to USE women, to not register the Jealousy and bringing down that others seem to try to do to him, and above all to be Nicer and Nicer as he grows even when no one else is willign too.


Ther are alot of guys on this board that radiate an absolute meat-head/dumb-fuck way about themselves that I find so repulsive.

Who cares how much you lift or how much you weigh compared to body fat.

I'ts so refreshing to have guys like you passing on such a mature and "real measure of a man" attitude to this young man.

I can't beleive that I'm heearing another athlete say to a another much younger guy to respect women and to be a classy and personable guy to all!

Anyone who knows real class and intelligence knows that having a strong kind persona attracts women of the professional kind and men that build empires that give back to the community.

For some rerason I can't give you any K, it says I need to spread it around. What the hell does that mean anyway?
 
the k is probably not that important bro, the support probably is. OMEGA is more of a man than most will ever be. never too busy to hep someone, whether it bein the gym or personal. those things are never forgotten. me included. thanks OMEGA.
 
the k is probably not that important bro, the support probably is. OMEGA is more of a man than most will ever be. never too busy to hep someone, whether it be in the gym or personal. those things are never forgotten. me included. thanks OMEGA. :)
 
GUESS said:
I can't beleive that I'm heearing another athlete say to a another much younger guy to respect women and to be a classy and personable guy to all!


First of I just wanna say again I am no GURU or anything special.

I just don't understand how people can KNOWINGLY use others for themselves and treat women or those who are of humble status as an Object which thus negates their humanity.

When ONE sentient being uses another for pleasure and power on a lies only for themself that is EVIL. And there is NOTHING funny about it.


PS; nice to meet you:)
 
im glad theres good bros like you. When i found a sick hardcore gym near me i was intimidated at first but after i had been going a while and talked to people here and there and they have helped me alot. Most of the guys that i talk to for help as glad i actually listen because they said they don't even bother talking to young guys anymore because most of them will ignore them or tell them right off to piss off. But anyway, glad theres guys like you to help us newer bros out.
 
The young mans Back ONLY 6 weeks in with my training style Still 6 weeks to GO! AND NATURAL

( I say that humble as possible but it is a science lol)

4utng20.jpg
 
way to go dude!!! More young people could use that type of encouragement other than what floats around at most gyms
 
i can see the difference. genetics are really a strange thing, either you have them or you don't. the man looks like he sure does. tell him we are all watching and hoping the best for him. teach him to appreciate what he has. hard to believe he is not on here yet................smart move
 
:) your all good bros:)

and I will tell him we are pushing for him, he is such a nice young man.

PS his arms are awesome now too but we have to do an arm shot

Also genetics has something to do with it, but I believ it has alot to do with CORRECT training and then Diet
 
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OMEGA said:
I have been training this young man at my gym for free as a mentor kind of.

He is one of those Natural types where you just know it time he could be one of the best.

He actually listens to what I say, and does it buy the book.
In less the 3 weeks of training him he looks VERY different. Bigger, stronger, faster.

It very rewarding Because I think he is aware of whats being passed to him.
And we are becoming friends.

The only thing that sucks is that he looks better then me already :(
and it looks like he should be training me instead of me training him LOLOLlollol :artist:

Tell me if you guys see these "BEFORE" Pics

AGAIN THESE ARE ONLY BEFORE PICS

AFTER PICS WILL BE POSTED IN 6-8 or when his new gains solidify under our new training style together:)

4mrebk2.jpg



54cx4qa.jpg


i dont think he got into that shape in 3 weeks. he obviously knows wat hes doing already or had some 1 else to train him. wat r u doing different that he wasnt already doing?
 
Hi Big nad

he had been training in an "instinctual circuit style training for 3 years"

He has the base of a normal athlete albeit leaner

He never trained for Hyper Trophy or rather did not know HOW to.

Now he has learned alot

The pics are only after 6 weeks of my "style" of training

yes that sound kinda stupid but it is NON the less true

"You Can't lift like a Powerlifter if you want look like a Bodybuilder"
 
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