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I have given up on "god"

My general point is, it doesn't matter what you believe, it matters how you live.

that's not true. god says the only way to get to the kingdom is through him. this means that you need to have a personal relationship with the lord jesus christ to get to the kingdom. sure, you will be rewarded for the things you do if you make it, but only if you trust in jesus as your lord and savior and admit that you are a sinner. whoever said that ministers take what is given in the offerings is completely wrong. it takes money to spread the word of god. they have to pay bills too. do not ever say that they take money from the church. about this whole wtc thing. i do not think it was in gods will, but he allowed it to happen. i think god is weaping because of it. if you ask me why god allows things to happen, i can't tell you why. all i can say is that he won't give us more than we can handle. just look now, we can handle this. the nation has came together as one, an outpour of people donating money, blood, food, clothing etc.
 
Shrebly said:


Sorry but I am no longer a Roman Catholic, Christian or believer in organized religion of any kind. What "god" could allow something this devastating to happen? Sorry, the next time I look for guidance it will be towards nature, the stars and the waves at the ocean.

that is a lame ass question" why could god allow this"
its a fucking cop out....and the next time you look for guidance in the stars and nature.....why dont you stop and think who the fuck made the stars....god......and if you are willing to give up on god that easily then you were no christian or catholic to begin with!!!!
 
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bigpimp said:


that is a lame ass question" why could god allow this"
its a fucking cop out....and the next time you look for guidance in the stars and nature.....why dont you stop and think who the fuck made the stars....god......and if you are willing to give up on god that easily then you were no christian or catholic to begin with!!!!

1. Get your quotes correct before you start flaming someone. I asked WHAT god could allow this.

2. I never asked to be Catholic, it was something that my parents forced me to adhere to.

3. There is no proof that "god" made the stars, moon or earth. Show me one piece of credible proof and I will 'repent'.
 
If it's true that god is the creator of al that surrounds us and we were created in his image - how are there different races, colors and religious beliefs?

If we were created by 'god' and he gave us free will to do as we choose then why do people choose to pray to him in a time of need? If were are in charge of our decisions and outcomes then what will praying do? Give us peace of mind? Yeah, make a donation and you’ll get a better seat in heaven. “Send me money, send me green, heaven you will meet – make a contribution and you’ll get a better seat”

If our destinies are already predetermined then no amount of praying will ever change that. The Catholic religion is nothing but a hoax - they tell you one thing - that 'god' has a plan for everyone yet at the same time the church tells us to pray and ask for forgiveness, awareness and guidance.

I could really care less what any bible thumpers have to say on the matter - who is to say what religion is correct and how can someone who is Catholic condemn someone who is Muslim or Protestant or Jewish for their religious convictions?
 
catholic is bullshit!!religion is like amway... all they want is your money!! its always about money...vatican is fucking rich with large amount of money and they keep all of it for themself....fuck the pope!! live your spiritualty instead..not religion..by the way the bible was written 2000 or so years ago..how much of it truly happened? i wonder....
 
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bouncer said:
Shrebly I know where your coming from girl.
You haven't answered my last PM, any news ?.
Bouncer


The last time I checked the diaster list there was a D. Fiori on the list - his name is Dominic Angianece Fiori. While I hate to say I'm glad he was hurt in the blast, it is much better than being dead.

I am waiting for my sister to call once she makes it to NYC from Iowa. She rented a car a started driving Thursday morning when she couldn't get any information.

Thanks for asking, my PM's are screwed up for some reason - I stopped getting the little pop up box when a new PM arrived.

When I get any news I will PM you - again, thanks so much for asking and listening... and that's something that I never though you and I would ever do :]

:wavey: Shells
 
bignate73 said:
organized religion made its way out of my life loooooong ago. religion period for that matter. there is no way a human mind can fathom the possibilities of whats out there, to personify it, give it a name and try to make it like us is completely arrogant. islam at least doesnt attempt to lower god to a human level, or even try to give god human characteristics. christianity does. both are measures for controlling the masses, appeasing the poor (meek) into thinking they will be rewarded for toiling and suffering. i wont pretend to understand any omnipotent power, nor will i insult myself by calling it a "father" and taking on the role of being a child. nature or the nature of things are all i will explain it as, since science shows us new things daily and make archaic beliefs more prehistoric. i place no faith in ancient writings, for at one time people believed they would fall off the earth if they went far enough. feel safe trusting something written under the hand of "god" by such people?

riiiiiight.

I am very impressed by your thoughts....
 
My ideas about religion were changed forever when I first read Nietzsche.

Ever since then, any mention of religion has turned me off.

The true meaning of life is the pursuit of happiness. Appreciation of what you have while chasing after your dreams should be the goal of every person on this earth.

We are all going to die sooner or later, so repent before you die to your god and hope for the best. At worst there will be darkness...at best your soul lives on.
 
Crazier said:
Well fuck you man. I'm sorry if I didn't know the correct term for the people that killed Jesus. How about the rest of my post. Come on. Piece by piece, tell me why I shouldn't be taken seriously. Because the Roman's changed to Catholics... still the same thing man. Let's debate buddy. I'm ready.
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Remember, the Roman Empire stretched across most of Europe and the Middle East. The geographical boundaries were much different than today. Romans did crucify Jesus, but not in the sense that you might think. These Romans were based in the Middle East in and around present-day Israel, not back in Italy.
 
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