I have finally listened

[alteredgenes]

After listening to advice of you guys on this board and others, also my cousin who is a competitive bodybuilder I am lightening my cycle and waiting a little longer to do my first show.
Weeks 1 - 3
Prop 100mgs/ed
Fina 100mgs/ed
Nolva 30mgs/ed
B-12 1000mcg/ed

Weeks 4 - 8
Prop 100mgs/ed
Fina 100mgs/ed
Cyp 500mgs/ed
Nolva 30mgs/ed
B-12 1000mcgs/ed

Weeks 9 - 15
Cyp 600mgs/ew
Deca 600mgs/ew
Nolva 30gs/ed
Insulin 6ius/5 days on 2 days off
B-12 1000mcgs/ed

Weeks 16 - 20
Dbol 30mgs/ed
Prop 10mgs/ed
Cyp 600mgs/ew
Deca 600mgs/ew
Nolva 30mgs/ed
B-12 1000mcgs/ed

Then I will run PCT with 5000mcg of HCG the first week with clomid. Take a 10 week break following that and start cutting up for the show I plan to do next time this year. If you saw my last cycle plan I have dropped the doses considerably. i am also thinking of dropping the cyp the last three weeks and just running prop so I can start PCT the next day. Insulin in therr for six weeks is to boost up the gains right before my cycle ends. I do have diet all planned out to accomodate the insulin and be safe. Appreciate any info. Thank you for letting me see the light.

 

[Mr. Black]

No offense but that whole cycle seems a little ass backwards IMO. First off why run Nolva everyday? I'd hold off and only use it if gyno symptoms appear OR use it for PCT. Instead you'd probably be wise to run some a-dex or other anti-aromotaser. Next is it really necessary to run cyp@500mg ed from weeks 4-8? Thats ridiculous. Also why not run staright from the beginning in addition to the prop? Also it seemd strange that your finishing off with dbol, why not run some winstrol instead (also helps cobmbat progesterone sides from the fina and/or deca). 20 weeks seems kind of long (espcially with deca and fina involved), I hope you don't have a gf to please...

 

[bigdho]

That is one big ass cycle I agree with mr black a little backwards but on the right track good luck bro.

 

[daveyboy]

That's alot of poking for a first cycle. I also question the cyp dosage for weeks 4-8. Maybe that's a typo & you really meant 500mgs e/w instead of e/d. I hope so. Don't wanna flame & I won't but that just seems a little strong for a first timer. Just my .02

 

[lartinos]

first cycle? Too much stuff and why run nolvadex all the way through?

 

[theoak01]

thats backing it down? christ I would not have wanted to see your first idea.

IMO thats way to much for a first,this isnt a race bro,it takes years to build your body to where you want it, patience is the key my man, if I were you Id run dbol weeks 1-4 at 30mg ed,and test cyp 500mg a week for 10 weeks,you should make decent gains on this,and save this cycle for when your getting ready for a show

 

[Mr. Black]

I think he means he will be doing his first show, not cycle. At any rate I think you need to listen a little more...Good luck.

 

[Nucman]

WOW 100mg tren ed for your 1st cycle??? You're going to be miserable. Why not just run a Test/deca cycle, kick start it with the d-bol, and run the last 4wks prop and tren. Keep the cycle to 10 or 12 wks. Many 1st cycles can be effective with just cyp or enanth alone 500 to 750mg/wk.
The smartest thing to do with tren for the 1st time, is to run it 50mg/eod for a week, see how things go, then maybe 100 eod, then 100 ed. Tren sides can be harsh, it's a very powerful drug! HBP, temper, night sweats,.... all these sides are very real and should be gradually eased into, so you know how your body will react and you can take counter measures. Good luck, be safe, and remember ya don't need to gain it all in 1 cycle.

 

[concordsize]

I think it looks good bro. Keep the nolvadex in there if indeed you are doing a show. Also proviron will be a smart addition.

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[majutsu]

this isnt a race bro,it takes years to build your body to where you want it, patience is the key my man

damn skippy! Bout time someone brought this up. I wish you luck, man, but the mentality you're sporting right appears quite unlikely to be successful and potentially harmful.

 

[lartinos]

I think it looks good bro. Keep the nolvadex in there if indeed you are doing a show. Also proviron will be a smart addition.

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explain why keeping noilvadex in there is good for a show. Why not get an anti-aromatase?

 

[searay]

to much, to long...................

 

[jubei]

Sorry bro, that cycle is wack. Unless you're the size of an icy hot stanta you don't need that much gear.

 

[lartinos]

not cycling b-12 is pretty stupid as well

 

[test-monkey]

not cycling b-12 is pretty stupid as well

not only that, but 1000mcg a day lol! that way to much do not take B12 frequently because then your body will never store it because you will have an over supply! 1000mcg a week is fine, at the doctor they give you 1000mcg a month,

 

[jerkbox]

No offense but that whole cycle seems a little ass backwards IMO. First off why run Nolva everyday? I'd hold off and only use it if gyno symptoms appear OR use it for PCT. Instead you'd probably be wise to run some a-dex or other anti-aromotaser. Next is it really necessary to run cyp@500mg ed from weeks 4-8? Thats ridiculous. Also why not run staright from the beginning in addition to the prop? Also it seemd strange that your finishing off with dbol, why not run some winstrol instead (also helps cobmbat progesterone sides from the fina and/or deca). 20 weeks seems kind of long (espcially with deca and fina involved), I hope you don't have a gf to please...

i would also say reun deca first and tren at the end....

 

[NJjuice22]

that deca towards the end of your cycle is really gonna fuck up your PCT timing, that shit takes forever to get out of your system, i would swap the deca and fina like the other people mentioned, also if this is your first cycle, you got problems man, do you know that a first time user can gain a solid 15-20 lbs off of just 200mg/test cyp per week ,i did my first 3 cycles.

 

[IronKop77]

Alright this has got to be a JOKE. Do you realize you are goign to have 4200 mgs of test alone in your body per week. Not to mention almost another gram of fina. Dude that is CRAZY hell id even consider it STUPID for a first cycle. Most pros arent even on 5 gs a week. the overall setup isnt terrible but I will agree it is a little backward. Why dont you run the fina at the end and the decca in the begining...both shut u down pretty good. I like the d-bol at the end and agree with the nolva all the way thru to prevent bloat.

 

[bicepts101]

yeah definatly run the tren at the end

flip that whole fuckin cycle around.

run cyp for 10 weeks then get on prop

start deca from week one and stop when you stop cyp

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