Please Scroll Down to See Forums Below All types. They are so bad for me. Not only did they start off bad but they don't progress nearly as fast as my other lifts. I am probably the only person who can powerclean more than they can bench. My over head press has actully gotten worse. I don't think it is overtraining. I do ohp's and inclines on tuesday then bench and close grip on friday. The only press that is good for me is close grip. Lockout on press's are easy for me. Any ideas? Should I try westside for upperbody?
I hate pressing!
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I don't have pics or vids and it is not form. I think i figured out my problem. I don't do enough volume. I only do like 2 sets. I think I am going to try going back to something like 5x5 and see how thart works. Makes sense?
My upper routine.
tuesday
chins-whatever I am in the mood to do. Sometimes 3x3 or 2x5.
ohp-2x5
curls-2x3-5
incline-2x5
Friday
bench-upto 3 rep max or 3x3(usually ends up being 3,2,2)
close grip-3x5
Size is coming great fwiw.
My upper routine.
tuesday
chins-whatever I am in the mood to do. Sometimes 3x3 or 2x5.
ohp-2x5
curls-2x3-5
incline-2x5
Friday
bench-upto 3 rep max or 3x3(usually ends up being 3,2,2)
close grip-3x5
Size is coming great fwiw.
I don't feel overtrained. My tris are fine. I am not sure about delts. They have always been my weakest bodypart.CoolColJ said:
I am thinking of doing this. for ohp do 5x5 but after three weeks work up to three rep max. Incline 3x5. And for bench start off with 5x5 next week 5x3 then 3x3 then work up to 3 rep max. And I will lower all the weight and start over. Do you think this makes sense. Do you think it will be too much? My tris will be fine not sure about delts though.
coolcolj
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well if you train an exercise 2-3 times a week, you'll get stronger on it faster, as long as you vary the weights over the session, one heavy, one light and fast and one medium perhaps etc
it would better to do bench heavier, then press light twice a week
and then next week reverse the roles. I think you will make faster progress like this.
ie
week 1
day 1 - Bench - 3x3 at 85-90%, press 5x5 at 70%
day 2 - bench - 5x3 at 55% , press 3x5 at 75%
Week 2
day 1 - Press - 3x3 at 85-90%, bench 5x5 at 70%
day 2 - Press - 5x3 at 55% , bench 3x5 at 75%
something like that at the top of my head, it may not work, but it looks ok on paper
But there is no periodisation there. I would unload every 3 weeks.
it would better to do bench heavier, then press light twice a week
and then next week reverse the roles. I think you will make faster progress like this.
ie
week 1
day 1 - Bench - 3x3 at 85-90%, press 5x5 at 70%
day 2 - bench - 5x3 at 55% , press 3x5 at 75%
Week 2
day 1 - Press - 3x3 at 85-90%, bench 5x5 at 70%
day 2 - Press - 5x3 at 55% , bench 3x5 at 75%
something like that at the top of my head, it may not work, but it looks ok on paper
But there is no periodisation there. I would unload every 3 weeks.
That might be too much for me. I will try my thing for a month then yours.CoolColJ said:well if you train an exercise 2-3 times a week, you'll get stronger on it faster, as long as you vary the weights over the session, one heavy, one light and fast and one medium perhaps etc
it would better to do bench heavier, then press light twice a week
and then next week reverse the roles. I think you will make faster progress like this.
ie
week 1
day 1 - Bench - 3x3 at 85-90%, press 5x5 at 70%
day 2 - bench - 5x3 at 55% , press 3x5 at 75%
Week 2
day 1 - Press - 3x3 at 85-90%, bench 5x5 at 70%
day 2 - Press - 5x3 at 55% , bench 3x5 at 75%
something like that at the top of my head, it may not work, but it looks ok on paper
But there is no periodisation there. I would unload every 3 weeks.
MsBeverlyHills
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got news for ya dood-- its not the exercise-- its your attitude...if you really "hate" doing them-- even if you change to CCJs workout-- theyll still suck.
change your head-- the lifts will follow.
change your head-- the lifts will follow.
MsBeverlyHills said:
ding ding ding...I tend to agree.
B True
traineat bigand rest
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Its all about technique. . . and practicing.
Always practice and hit the weak points!
Always practice and hit the weak points!
ffknight84
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dood said:
I power clean 10 pounds less than my bench
i wouldn't say I hate them, I am fairly strong on overhead movements. but bench is certainly my worst lift of the big 3....I think my form has had a lot to do with it, but also my choice in exercises and not knowing my weak points. I think westside has helped me identify some of those in the short 3 weeks i've been doing it. For one, the strength of the long head of the triceps, which I think is going to make a big difference in my bench once I improve it. And training bar speed as well as other things.
MsBeverlyHills
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Re: Re: I hate pressing!
http://www.t-mag.com/nation_articles/221id.html
"clean and jerk should be about equal to the bench press"
10 pounds is about equal in my book...lol!
ffknight84 said:
http://www.t-mag.com/nation_articles/221id.html
"clean and jerk should be about equal to the bench press"
10 pounds is about equal in my book...lol!
MsBeverlyHills
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CoolColJ said:clean and jerk does not equal powerclean
lol-- ok...technically no...but the correlation w/BP still applies.. no???
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