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TheRide

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Buddy of mine picked up some Deca - Animal Power brand... now I know everyone is ripping them for being TT under a new lable but I had to laugh @ the bottle. Dispie looking legit, the cap has a paw print on it... it's kind of funny. Just one of those things that hit me strange...

Anyway, still chuckleing and wanted to share.... :supercool
 
- TTokkoy made good gear, they just brought too much heat on themselves with the whole Ketamine production thing.


- Animal Power is not Ttokkyo, not them same guys at all... some of the same distribution channels but different owners...
 
Big Rick Rock said:
- TTokkoy made good gear, they just brought too much heat on themselves with the whole Ketamine production thing.


- Animal Power is not Ttokkyo, not them same guys at all... some of the same distribution channels but different owners...


I agree, TT was good gear a few years back but around the time of the whole K thing, everyone turned on them. Bad reports all over the boards. Personally, I had good results w/their prods but haven't touched in in probably 4 years.

Anyway, I don't know if AP is TT or not, I've read several differnet versions of the same story on the boards. Honestly, if it works and its clean, I don't care who ownes them. But, until then, I'm happy building my fortress of QV vials... :)
 
TheRide said:
I agree, TT was good gear a few years back but around the time of the whole K thing, everyone turned on them. Bad reports all over the boards. Personally, I had good results w/their prods but haven't touched in in probably 4 years.

Anyway, I don't know if AP is TT or not, I've read several differnet versions of the same story on the boards. Honestly, if it works and its clean, I don't care who ownes them. But, until then, I'm happy building my fortress of QV vials... :)


QV is very good stuff.


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Big Rick Rock said:
- TTokkoy made good gear, they just brought too much heat on themselves with the whole Ketamine production thing.


- Animal Power is not Ttokkyo, not them same guys at all... some of the same distribution channels but different owners...
Damn it, they were producing special k?
Bionic
 
BionicBC said:
Damn it, they were producing special k?
Bionic



There are very legitimate VETERINARIAN uses for the stuff, but that shit is very bad for humans. Kids trip out on the shit and some people have even dies on it. Once bottles of the stuff started showing up in the states with the "ttokkyo" name on it, the company became a target. Why do you think the big names in Mex stay away from making that shit? Bad for your customer's health and bad for business!


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Big Rick Rock said:
There are very legitimate VETERINARIAN uses for the stuff, but that shit is very bad for humans. Kids trip out on the shit and some people have even dies on it. Once bottles of the stuff started showing up in the states with the "ttokkyo" name on it, the cpompany became a target. Why do you think the big names in Mex stay away from making that shit? Bad for your customer's health and bad for business!


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Not exactly true, Yes, people have died on it, but 99.999% of the time it wasnt the K. I am a dj, and dj'd at rave clubs for about 4 years. Special K. or Ketamine, is pretty popular in that scene. It is actually, like many things, a safe drug when used in a reasonable dosage and alone. Most people who use "K" are usually on some other type of harder drug, like ecstacy, cocaine, meth, acid, exc. The effects of Ketamine can be overwhelming, though, especially to the first time user, and gets the bad rap whe nanother drug was the true culprit.
Bionic
 
A friend of mine gets to play with K every day. He works for a huge drug testing company and they use K on test animals as anesthesia. Once the animals are asleep, they then cut out all their organs to weigh them and test them and shit. He has to do this to monkeys and dogs all day long. He said that they are really fucking strict with the K too. If you spill even 1mL on a lab bench, you have to get the supervisor and you must suck up as much as possible, document it and have it approved by upper management.
 
Oh, and Ketamine is not JUST used for vetinarian purposes. It is also used in Humans:
Ketamine is a general dissociative anesthetic for human and veterinary use. Its hydrochloride salt is sold as Ketanest®, Ketaset® and Ketalar®. Pharmacologically it is very similar to Dextromethorphan and phencyclidine (PCP).

Ketamine was first used on American soldiers during the Vietnam War, but is often avoided now because it can cause unpleasant out of body experiences. It is still used in human medicine as a first-choice anesthetic for victims with unknown medical history (e.g. from traffic accidents), in podiatry and other minor surgery, and occasionally for the treatment of migraine.

In veterinary medicine, ketamine is often used for its anaesthetic and analgesic affects on cats, dogs, rabbits, rats, and other small animals. Veterinarians often mix ketamine with sedative drugs. Cats, in particular, usually receive ketamine with acepromazine and wiktionary:torbugesic in a mixture called KAT. Ketamine is sometimes used with horses and other large animals, but it has less affect on bovines.

Ketamine may be used in small doses (0.1 - 0.5 mg/kg/hr) as an analgesic, particularly for the treatment of pain associated with movement and neuropathic pain. It has the added benefit of counter-acting spinal sensitization or Wind-up phenomena experienced with chronic pain. At these doses, the psychotropic side effects are less apparent and well managed with benzodiazepines. It is a co-analgesic, requiring concomitant low-dose opioid to be effective.

Ketamine depresses respiratory and circulatory functions less than other anesthetics do. When used in anesthetic doses, it sometimes stimulates the circulatory system rather than depresses it. It is sometimes possible to perform ketamine anesthesia without protective measures to the airways. Ketamine is also a potent analgesic and can be used in sub-anesthetic doses to relieve acute pain; however, its psychotropic properties must be taken into account.

There is research going on in its usefulness in pain therapy and for the treatment of alcoholism and heroin addiction.

Ketamine is a Schedule III drug in the United States, and is used in many other countries, such as Mexico. Patients sometimes reported going into other worlds or seeing god while anesthetized: these unwanted psychological side-effects made ketamine less used.

Psychopharmacologically it is a non-competitive glutamate inhibitor at the NMDA receptors. These occur mainly in the hippocampal formation and in the prefrontal cortex, which explains its profound effects on memory and thought.

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Recreational use
When used recreationally, it is known as K, Ket, Special K, or Vitamin K (not to be confused with Vitamin K).

Ketamine produces effects similar to PCP, and DXM. Like other disassociative anesthetics in low to upper middle dosages, its hallucinogenic effects are only seen in darkness or sensory deprivation. Users tout its trip as better than that of PCP or LSD because its overt hallucinatory effects are short-acting, lasting an hour or less. The drug, however, can affect the senses, judgment, and coordination for 18 to 24 hours. Ketamine sold on the streets comes from diverted legitimate supplies, primarily veterinary clinics, in either powdered or liquid form. In powdered form its appearance is similar to that of pharmaceutical grade cocaine and can be insufflated (snorted), placed in beverages, or smoked in combination with marijuana. Oral use usually requires more material. In therapeutic and psychedelic use the liquid is injected intra-muscularly. The incidence of recreational ketamine use is increasing, and accounts of recreational ketamine use appear in reports of rave parties attended by teenagers and young adults. Ketamine was placed in Schedule III of the United States Controlled Substance Act in August 1999.

Like the other disassociative anesthics DXM and PCP, hallucinations caused by Ketamine are fundamentally different than caused by tryptamines and phenethlyamines. While at low doses the user must be in a dark room or have his eyes closed in order to see any hallucinations, at medium to high doses the effects are far more intense and obvious and include changes in the perception of distances and durations and the visual system being slow to update what the user is seeing.

Ketamine puts the user in a dissociated state, meaning that they are not connected to a sense of self, or to reality around them (See also Out of Body Experience). If a large enough amount is taken, they go through a "k-hole", and experience other worlds or dimensions that are impossible to describe in our language, while being completely unaware of their identity or the outside world. They feel as though their perception is located so deep inside their mind that the real world seems distant (hence the use of a "hole" to describe the experience). Often the user does not remember this part of the experience after they regain consciousness. The "re-integration" process is slow, and the user gradually becomes aware of things around them. At first they may not remember their name, or even know that they are a human, or what that means. Movement is extremely difficult, and they may not be aware that they have a body at all. It may be possible to use this state therapeutically, taking advantage of the dissociation and removing associations from one's brain. After the experience is over, some of these changes may remain.

Some drug users' first contact with ketamine is accidental, often from a pill sold as something else (commonly Ecstasy).

Ketamine is usually bought in powder form and snorted (taken nasally), though it can sometimes be bought in liquid form and then either cooked (heated to boil off the water and leave powder) or injected via a hypodermic needle. It is often taken with Ecstasy, due to its effect as an enhancer of the effects of other drugs.
 
Yah, we stop shipments of Special K all the time at Customs. Oh shit, I should not have said that:

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LOL!!!! :supercool
 
Big Rick Rock said:
There are very legitimate VETERINARIAN uses for the stuff, but that shit is very bad for humans. Kids trip out on the shit and some people have even dies on it. Once bottles of the stuff started showing up in the states with the "ttokkyo" name on it, the company became a target. Why do you think the big names in Mex stay away from making that shit? Bad for your customer's health and bad for business!


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That's what happens when you mix rec drugs and AAS....
 
stryker1992 said:
Yah, we stop shipments of Special K all the time at Customs. Oh shit, I should not have said that:

delete.delete.delete.

LOL!!!! :supercool


LOL!!!!

Anyway, where the hell is Termie, he had some good info from the "front line" on TT and AP gear... Where you @ Term?
 
The Terminator said:
Yep, THAT is a recipe for disaster :o


Ah, yah! In case some of you missed it, I was away b/c my bro shot himself after battling a coke/AAS problem!!!!!
 
stryker1992 said:
Ah, yah! In case some of you missed it, I was away b/c my bro shot himself after battling a coke/AAS problem!!!!!


Terrible... my condolences to you and his loved ones.

:(
 
TheRide said:
Buddy of mine picked up some Deca - Animal Power brand... now I know everyone is ripping them for being TT under a new lable but I had to laugh @ the bottle. Dispie looking legit, the cap has a paw print on it... it's kind of funny. Just one of those things that hit me strange...

Anyway, still chuckleing and wanted to share.... :supercool

Ironic, yes.

Funny, NO.


I would stay away from any TTokkyo shit........or AP for that matter.





DIV

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