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I dont believe in test only on first cycle

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am saying this from experience....I have abused roids...and am very healthy....I have done blood work on cycle and off of cycle...the DR didnt freak out
as long as u know how to inject and u have no problem doing it on a daily bases...than go ahead and keep those receptors confused and take advantage of taking away their virginity and get the best results of your life....
but I do believe in diet cardio and time off.....without these than you are not very healthy
when u watch bigger faster stronger.....the high school coach teacher (Mark Bell powerlifter) said that he will be on the juice on and off forever and he is still alive and guess what? according to the wikki (He utilized various form of conditioning: hill running, body weight circuits, interval type cardio on treadmills, bikes, ellipticals, and rowers. All of this allowed him to have a superior endurance.
now his older brother is the total opposite....he did all kinds of drugs I dont think he ever focused on cardio and guess what? he died a few weeks after the documentary was done and according to some deleted parts from the documentary they all went to the DR and did a heart scan...the DR told the high school coach he was fine but he tolled his older brother that died to stop all the roids that he just started decrease the calories and increase cardio....because his heart didn't look very good..I felt very bad and I was shocked that he died...I watched that documentary a thousand times and didn't find out that he was dead until a few weeks ago
 
The point of taking test only is NOT just about receptors and hindering future growth. You keep it simple because these are dangerous hormonal changes you are forcing on your body. You don't know what type of reaction you'll have if you've never done it before. When people go out drinking the first time they don't drink beer, wine, rum & coke and do tequila shots unless they want to suffer, they keep it simple (maybe bad analogy). Anyways, different people have different reactions and test only allows you focus on one of the base building blocks of a steroid cycle. If you do test, deca, dbol your first cycle and something goes wrong you're going to have some serious detective work to figure it out. Look how many posts say "Hard lump in nipple, PLEASE HELP". By putting only one compound in your body reduces the chances of making a mistake as well. It's pretty solid reasoning for test only first cycle and we see examples everyday of people that complicate it instead with lots of steroids with tricky pct and then they need us to advise on fixing it.
 
oxymoron said:
the point of taking test only is not just about receptors and hindering future growth. You keep it simple because these are dangerous hormonal changes you are forcing on your body. You don't know what type of reaction you'll have if you've never done it before. When people go out drinking the first time they don't drink beer, wine, rum & coke and do tequila shots unless they want to suffer, they keep it simple (maybe bad analogy). Anyways, different people have different reactions and test only allows you focus on one of the base building blocks of a steroid cycle. If you do test, deca, dbol your first cycle and something goes wrong you're going to have some serious detective work to figure it out. Look how many posts say "hard lump in nipple, please help". By putting only one compound in your body reduces the chances of making a mistake as well. It's pretty solid reasoning for test only first cycle and we see examples everyday of people that complicate it instead with lots of steroids with tricky pct and then they need us to advise on fixing it.
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^^^^boom!
 
oxymoron said:
The point of taking test only is NOT just about receptors and hindering future growth. You keep it simple because these are dangerous hormonal changes you are forcing on your body. You don't know what type of reaction you'll have if you've never done it before. When people go out drinking the first time they don't drink beer, wine, rum & coke and do tequila shots unless they want to suffer, they keep it simple (maybe bad analogy). Anyways, different people have different reactions and test only allows you focus on one of the base building blocks of a steroid cycle. If you do test, deca, dbol your first cycle and something goes wrong you're going to have some serious detective work to figure it out. Look how many posts say "Hard lump in nipple, PLEASE HELP". By putting only one compound in your body reduces the chances of making a mistake as well. It's pretty solid reasoning for test only first cycle and we see examples everyday of people that complicate it instead with lots of steroids with tricky pct and then they need us to advise on fixing it.
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makes sense
 
its important to understand what a documentary is. it isn't a persuasive movie, so when you hear people on there say something it isn't necessarily factual.. its merely the guy interviewing people and getting their views and opinions.. in other words you aren't watching the discovery channel where they use science to show a certain thing.

that movie is probably the worst thing ever put out there, cause it seems to push the myth that you will get bigger faster stronger on steroids. so then you have little 150 pound carrots deciding to juice. and its not the dudes fault for making the movie, its the stupid perception by people that the movie is a real thing and we should take someones viewpoint in the movie as fact

so stop watching that movie a hundred times and start researching and educating yourself on the facts of AAS.. watching that movie will make you dumber, not smarter
 
stevesmi said:
its important to understand what a documentary is. it isn't a persuasive movie, so when you hear people on there say something it isn't necessarily factual.. its merely the guy interviewing people and getting their views and opinions.. in other words you aren't watching the discovery channel where they use science to show a certain thing.

that movie is probably the worst thing ever put out there, cause it seems to push the myth that you will get bigger faster stronger on steroids. so then you have little 150 pound carrots deciding to juice. and its not the dudes fault for making the movie, its the stupid perception by people that the movie is a real thing and we should take someones viewpoint in the movie as fact

so stop watching that movie a hundred times and start researching and educating yourself on the facts of AAS.. watching that movie will make you dumber, not smarter
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I agree with u...but man come on...150 pounds are not always carrots I am 178 pounds and my legs is stronger than allot of huge guys in the gyms here in saudi...and am talking about guys that take insulin with huge biceps and veins everywhere...when I first arrived in saudi I was looking for prop and I started asking the big dudes and they were like being all sarcastic and shit and playing smart with me saying they dont mess with those stuff but instead they go for GH and insulin and get quality muscle
than one day I was leg pressing than the guy that uses insulin (same guy I was asking for prop an Egyptian guy) decided to jump in with me...and I felt so embarrassed for him...what I was able to do all the way up and down 8 times...he couldnt do it 3 times AND he was pushing with his hands....hes a personal trainer over there and has been on stage and everything and is HUGE...his face impression was funny...all his clients were looking...I tried to tell him that the only way to fix that is by doing squats but he thinks he is too big to listen to me....and now I can tell that he hates me and see me as a threat to his reputation...the next day he was like that prop is powerful stuff and I was just like...OK.....sure
when I squat...everybody at the gym is quite...I can tell that they are all looking and the good guys that I can tell that have a good future go like mashallah mashallah what a beast and they say good things
 
^^^ i'm saying guys who are 150 pounds don't need juice. not saying they are necessarily not strong.

but it depends on height ... a guy who is 5 5 and a buck fifty can still be jacked with lean muscle.. but a guy who is 6 feet and 150 is skinny as hell. hard to carry very much muscle and only weigh that much.

but that is besides the point of the thread. my point is lets go off personal experiences, trade knowledge.. its like fishing. do you open the newspaper and read the fishing reports on what is biting and read books on how to fish? or should you ask fishmerman themselves on strategies and go there and watch the people actually catching fish? i think option B is better. this is why these boards are good, i trust the knowledge of guys on here who walk the walk over some fat guy who makes a documentary and if you notice in the movie few of those guys he interviewed were actually legit bodybuilders. watch the youtube vids of ric drasin, he walked the walk himself.. has years of experience and he interviews former and current bodybuilders.. that is where you should be sucking up knowledge.
 
stevesmi said:
^^^ i'm saying guys who are 150 pounds don't need juice. not saying they are necessarily not strong.

but it depends on height ... a guy who is 5 5 and a buck fifty can still be jacked with lean muscle.. but a guy who is 6 feet and 150 is skinny as hell. hard to carry very much muscle and only weigh that much.

but that is besides the point of the thread. my point is lets go off personal experiences, trade knowledge.. its like fishing. do you open the newspaper and read the fishing reports on what is biting and read books on how to fish? or should you ask fishmerman themselves on strategies and go there and watch the people actually catching fish? i think option B is better. this is why these boards are good, i trust the knowledge of guys on here who walk the walk over some fat guy who makes a documentary and if you notice in the movie few of those guys he interviewed were actually legit bodybuilders. watch the youtube vids of ric drasin, he walked the walk himself.. has years of experience and he interviews former and current bodybuilders.. that is where you should be sucking up knowledge.
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am about to watch that as soon as I get done stuffing my face
 
BTW I like it when a fat guy talks about his steroid use....it just shows the ignorant that u still have to follow the rules and regulations
 
saudiboy89 said:
am saying this from experience....I have abused roids...and am very healthy....I have done blood work on cycle and off of cycle...the DR didnt freak out
as long as u know how to inject and u have no problem doing it on a daily bases...than go ahead and keep those receptors confused and take advantage of taking away their virginity and get the best results of your life....
but I do believe in diet cardio and time off.....without these than you are not very healthy
when u watch bigger faster stronger.....the high school coach teacher (Mark Bell powerlifter) said that he will be on the juice on and off forever and he is still alive and guess what? according to the wikki (He utilized various form of conditioning: hill running, body weight circuits, interval type cardio on treadmills, bikes, ellipticals, and rowers. All of this allowed him to have a superior endurance.
now his older brother is the total opposite....he did all kinds of drugs I dont think he ever focused on cardio and guess what? he died a few weeks after the documentary was done and according to some deleted parts from the documentary they all went to the DR and did a heart scan...the DR told the high school coach he was fine but he tolled his older brother that died to stop all the roids that he just started decrease the calories and increase cardio....because his heart didn't look very good..I felt very bad and I was shocked that he died...I watched that documentary a thousand times and didn't find out that he was dead until a few weeks ago
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The older brother died BECAUSE. He committed suicide ..was nothing linked to roids

NO PAIN NO GLORY!
 
-SD- said:
this guys fucking wierd lol
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I said this in his "Does GNC carry Beastdroll" thread after reading another thread where he brags about getting in legal trouble and skipping out on bail (totally unprovoked story, he just wanted to brag apparently):

"Has anyone read any of his posts? He clearly is lying about his age and/or is mentally imballanced. AAS is not the right thing for him to be involved with, he needs to figure out his life. Seriously."

Not exactly shocking that no one at his gym wants to talk to him or help him out.
 
jerome simpson said:
I said this in his "Does GNC carry Beastdroll" thread after reading another thread where he brags about getting in legal trouble and skipping out on bail (totally unprovoked story, he just wanted to brag apparently):

"Has anyone read any of his posts? He clearly is lying about his age and/or is mentally imballanced. AAS is not the right thing for him to be involved with, he needs to figure out his life. Seriously."

Not exactly shocking that no one at his gym wants to talk to him or help him out.
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actually....they ambush me with massive amounts of questions :)
 
jerome simpson said:
I said this in his "Does GNC carry Beastdroll" thread after reading another thread where he brags about getting in legal trouble and skipping out on bail (totally unprovoked story, he just wanted to brag apparently):

"Has anyone read any of his posts? He clearly is lying about his age and/or is mentally imballanced. AAS is not the right thing for him to be involved with, he needs to figure out his life. Seriously."

Not exactly shocking that no one at his gym wants to talk to him or help him out.
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bro....u can say what ever u want...but in reality...I get more pussy than u and all the assholes that are talking shit but are not willing to post a picture of their FAT....
 
when I was 14 I was sexually molested by a 30 something year old that was going through a divorce.....not so many ppl can say that
my first kiss was by a suppose to be a lesbian...she was introduced to me by her gay brother that was trying to hook up with me (had no idea)...again...not so many ppl can say that..
I had sex in the kitchen at work with a Vietnamese girl...we use to always mess around and grab each others butts in the kitchen with only a window between me and her boyfriend...again not so many ppl can say that...
I had sex with a black girl...white girl... Spanish girl...I already covered every race in the US...again not so many ppl can say that...
I was still getting pussy when I was homeless moving from house to house with no car...again not so many ppl can do that
arab girls....never had the chance...but I lived most of my life in the US.....BUT....I did get a dick massage by one when I was 12 :)
 
I get more looks than any of u assholes that are talking shit....girls use to come to ME....when they first see me...they dont even know that am an arab...but when they hear someone calling my name...they squirt in their pants
 
jerome simpson said:
I said this in his "Does GNC carry Beastdroll" thread after reading another thread where he brags about getting in legal trouble and skipping out on bail (totally unprovoked story, he just wanted to brag apparently):

"Has anyone read any of his posts? He clearly is lying about his age and/or is mentally imballanced. AAS is not the right thing for him to be involved with, he needs to figure out his life. Seriously."

Not exactly shocking that no one at his gym wants to talk to him or help him out.
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the reason why I got arrested was because a Palestinian was trying to impress a black girl...he sat at the table and started playing cards with my buddy...so I said in arabic that I was just gonna watch...than he was like GUYS GUYS english plz...so I said it in english...and because I dont have an accent...the girl liked me and started talking to me...and that caused a fight...than the police came and shit hit the fan
 
Interesting read....lol

I recommend EQ only cycles. High anabolic low androgens. Good slow lean gains. 12 wks 400 mgs works like a charm...

gtaor
 
saudiboy89 said:
bro....u can say what ever u want...but in reality...I get more pussy than u and all the assholes that are talking shit but are not willing to post a picture of their FAT....
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Not too hard to score a lot of pussy when you live in the middle east where women have no rights and are subjegated to men.

and LOL @ thinking having sex with each race is impressive or having sex in a bathroom or what the fuck ever. Most of the guys here have done at least all of that if not more, myself included. But none of that shit is impressive in USA, only in sexually oppressed middle eastern areas would all that be something to brag about.
 
-SD- said:
Not too hard to score a lot of pussy when you live in the middle east where women have no rights and are subjegated to men.
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all that pussy was scored in the US of A
I only been in saudi for 2 months....am still waiting until I get a car than am out the house and go look for pussy
 
-SD- said:
this guys fucking wierd lol
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Yes 100% agreed. He is asking if he can get beat from gnc but has much experience with aas apparently. Doesnt make sense. Seems like the guy who does wrong form and things he can sling weight..

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Hes already got about a dozen sig worthy lines already. I see a classic EF poster in the making here, much potential he has.
 
stevesmi said:
^^^ i'm saying guys who are 150 pounds don't need juice. not saying they are necessarily not strong.

but it depends on height ... a guy who is 5 5 and a buck fifty can still be jacked with lean muscle.. but a guy who is 6 feet and 150 is skinny as hell. hard to carry very much muscle and only weigh that much.

but that is besides the point of the thread. my point is lets go off personal experiences, trade knowledge.. its like fishing. do you open the newspaper and read the fishing reports on what is biting and read books on how to fish? or should you ask fishmerman themselves on strategies and go there and watch the people actually catching fish? i think option B is better. this is why these boards are good, i trust the knowledge of guys on here who walk the walk over some fat guy who makes a documentary and if you notice in the movie few of those guys he interviewed were actually legit bodybuilders. watch the youtube vids of ric drasin, he walked the walk himself.. has years of experience and he interviews former and current bodybuilders.. that is where you should be sucking up knowledge.
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training and strength are not always directly related to drug use. At my competetion this weekend (I took third) the guy who took first was a beast the guy who took second was a stick, but still out benched and deadlifted me. There was a 175 pound TEEN who pulled 606 for the easiset 500+ lift I've ever seen. Keep in mind they are all natural or at least if they aren't the drug test will soon find out. There was a guy first time competing who I know juices and he weighs 242 and benched onlu 330 so you can't say steroids do or do not make one stronger. It's ALL about training and diet, the drugs will have an influce, but that influence depends on many factors.
 
Bragging about how much pussy he gets. LOL very amusing. Yes calling a group of steroid users fat losers is a smart move. Your right, you are such a baller. I wish I got as much poon-tang as u lol. Arab crab. Getting a handy from an arab chick at 12, you must be a very successful person

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Laxfiend said:
Yes 100% agreed. He is asking if he can get beat from gnc but has much experience with aas apparently. Doesnt make sense. Seems like the guy who does wrong form and things he can sling weight..

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I never bought anything from GNC
I use to get my why protein from sams
 
saudiboy89 said:
post a picture of your FAT first
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Laxfiend said:
Bragging about how much pussy he gets. LOL very amusing. Yes calling a group of steroid users fat losers is a smart move. Your right, you are such a baller. I wish I got as much poon-tang as u lol. Arab crab. Getting a handy from an arab chick at 12, you must be a very successful person

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u have no idea of what ur talking about....I dont care how much steroids u putt in your body....training and diet is the only key PERIOD
 
saudiboy89 said:
I agree with u...but man come on...150 pounds are not always carrots I am 178 pounds and my legs is stronger than allot of huge guys in the gyms here in saudi...and am talking about guys that take insulin with huge biceps and veins everywhere...when I first arrived in saudi I was looking for prop and I started asking the big dudes and they were like being all sarcastic and shit and playing smart with me saying they dont mess with those stuff but instead they go for GH and insulin and get quality muscle
than one day I was leg pressing than the guy that uses insulin (same guy I was asking for prop an Egyptian guy) decided to jump in with me...and I felt so embarrassed for him...what I was able to do all the way up and down 8 times...he couldnt do it 3 times AND he was pushing with his hands....hes a personal trainer over there and has been on stage and everything and is HUGE...his face impression was funny...all his clients were looking...I tried to tell him that the only way to fix that is by doing squats but he thinks he is too big to listen to me....and now I can tell that he hates me and see me as a threat to his reputation...the next day he was like that prop is powerful stuff and I was just like...OK.....sure
when I squat...everybody at the gym is quite...I can tell that they are all looking and the good guys that I can tell that have a good future go like mashallah mashallah what a beast and they say good things
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so put up some numbers bro. How much you squattin?
 
-SD- said:
Not too hard to score a lot of pussy when you live in the middle east where women have no rights and are subjegated to men.

and LOL @ thinking having sex with each race is impressive or having sex in a bathroom or what the fuck ever. Most of the guys here have done at least all of that if not more, myself included. But none of that shit is impressive in USA, only in sexually oppressed middle eastern areas would all that be something to brag about.
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lol u had to edit your shit
 
there is still plenty of room for my legs to grow
but last week I worked out everyday twice a day....I feel like my cortisol levels are through the roof
am taking 10 days off than start working out every other day
 
-SD- said:
Not too hard to score a lot of pussy when you live in the middle east where women have no rights and are subjegated to men.

and LOL @ thinking having sex with each race is impressive or having sex in a bathroom or what the fuck ever. Most of the guys here have done at least all of that if not more, myself included. But none of that shit is impressive in USA, only in sexually oppressed middle eastern areas would all that be something to brag about.
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u talk like am going to tell everybody in saudi about my sexy time....bro all my cousins that are my age have lost their virginity while I was in the US...to them...if u are a virgin than u must be crazy
 
saudiboy89 said:
275
5 sets of 5

I never max out so I dont know
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and everybody gets quiet and watches you?

And you're stronger than most of the bros in your gym?



Sorry, but there must be some real pussies at your gym bro.
 
saudiboy89 said:
u talk like am going to tell everybody in saudi about my sexy time....bro all my cousins that are my age have lost their virginity while I was in the US...to them...if u are a virgin than u must be crazy
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how old are you anyway?
 
All In a Year said:
Dude you're weird as fuck
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ur a fuckin cunt...I would knock u out than jump on your face knee first u fukin faggot...ppl like u in the US use to get robbed and pistol whipped....tampa fl is packed with arabs...most of them are Palestinians so they are naturally think like a gang... pistol whipping ppl we rob was our favorite and the older ones...dont even work...they just steal ss numbers and steal income taxes
 
So the strongest guy in your gym can only squat mid 300's? I think you need to seek out a better training environment. You need to train with like minded guys that are bigger and stronger than you. Competition breeds success.

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Bro, I live in Dubai. 75% of Saudis are homosexuals. They grow up seeing men only. Enough with this bullshit, you sound like a 10year old.
 
saudiboy89 said:
ur a fuckin cunt...I would knock u out than jump on your face knee first u fukin faggot...ppl like u in the US use to get robbed and pistol whipped....tampa fl is packed with arabs...most of them are Palestinians so they are naturally think like a gang... pistol whipping ppl we rob was our favorite and the older ones...dont even work...they just steal ss numbers and steal income taxes
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read the rules bro. Can't allow you to talk like this in this forum. I don't care what other people do/say. Be better and you won't get an infraction (like you just did) or timeout.
 
joeblow12345 said:
So the strongest guy in your gym can only squat mid 300's? I think you need to seek out a better training environment. You need to train with like minded guys that are bigger and stronger than you. Competition breeds success.

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no....lifting weights requires me and only me....no one is gonna hold my hands while am doing it....its just me and the weights
 
saudiboy89 said:
am 178 pounds........
275 for 5 reps means I could probably max out 315
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that's fine for a shorty 178 pounder. But if the biggest guys at your gym aren't squatting more than that, it's nothing to brag about.

http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/w...w-reps-squats-always-916683.html#post13025423

In this thread of yours^^^ where you ask for advice about squatting (which you now claim to be the best in your gym at), this bro posted:

b fold the truth said:
I box squatted 702 x 10 on Thursday and it was freaking hard (I saw The Pale Horse) but I also noticed that my form wasn't what it needed to be for me to hit a new 1RM PR soon.
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Now that is a big squat.
 
too many rules broken on this thread I'm gonna close it

everyone needs to review the rules.. Saudi you cannot attack people on here, and the same goes for those attacking Saudi.

you need to post your FULL STATS saudi, especially if a mod asks you your age you need to give it.. we cannot allow guys who are underage to post! so next time a mod tells you to do something do it !
 
ceo said:
read the rules bro. Can't allow you to talk like this in this forum. I don't care what other people do/say. Be better and you won't get an infraction (like you just did) or timeout.
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go ask kings high school....the arabs jumped a racist teacher that was giving them a hard time in the bath rooms....all the black ppl respected us...all the teachers were afraid to even look at us....we didnt have to join a gang or anything....we are who we are and we watch each others back...we had arabs get arrested for kidnapping....I my self have got away with so much shit u would not believe it
 
saudiboy89 said:
non of ur fukin business
u fukin rapist pedophile
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actually, it is my business. Read my title. If you aren't 21 you aren't to be talking about using steroids. read the rules.
 
saudiboy89 said:
go ask kings high school....the arabs jumped a racist teacher that was giving them a hard time in the bath rooms....all the black ppl respected us...all the teachers were afraid to even look at us....we didnt have to join a gang or anything....we are who we are and we watch each others back...we had arabs get arrested for kidnapping....I my self have got away with so much shit u would not believe it
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I don't give a fuck what happens in real life, but here I control what happens and you won't be here long if you continue to act a fucking fool in the training, AAS and supps sections.

now, it sounds like you are too young to be talking about using steroids here according to the board rules, which I enforce. So consider this your warning to STFU about it or be banned from posting altogether.
 
saudiboy89 said:
non of ur fukin business
u fukin rapist pedophile
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wrong place to talk like this to people..You have disrespected members and now you are name calling a senior mod?

take 2 weeks off.. if this happens when you come back. you will be gone for good
 
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