I believe I have the greatest

[Frisky]

BEAU!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (yes I said it... lol) in the world. Sure we have ups and downs like all other couples but the good always is 10x's better than the bad.

Since our move and or decision to open up a ranch (temp location right now) everything is so smoth no matter what obsticle we face, we face them together. His training business is kicking off and together we are maintaing stalls and such.

I honestly set myself up as being a single mother for the rest of my life after my divorce. I never thought I could find a person that would love and respect my kids the way I do. Never thought I could find someone that would even think of taking on such a responsibility.

He doesn't have tons of money, he's young, he's never settled down in this manner with an older woman 2 kids... responsibilities, hardship, Xhusbands, crazy mother-in-law, me bitching about work... (I'm a hand full... LOL)

Well, he's helped me out so much and I had time to actually sit down and think about how just little things mean a world to me. I was always the 'do'er' Functions for kid, drop off at school, pick up from school, etc etc. I've not one time asked him but he always offers and never complains. He's been a huge help with me being sick, or job interviews, or even if its me time and he pushes me out the door.



Now...

HH.... here is a me me me thread dammit...

hee hee

 

[PBR]

theres something to be said for the young....

 

[Frisky]

theres something to be said for the young....

He'll prolly trade me in for 2 - 20yr olds in a few years... LOL

tell ya what though, If he is still with me after this long with the baggage I have had to deal with and still wants to marry me... I'll take a few years more of it. LOLOLOL

He's a doll!

 

[PBR]

He'll prolly trade me in for 2 - 20yr olds in a few years... LOL

tell ya what though, If he is still with me after this long with the baggage I have had to deal with and still wants to marry me... I'll take a few years more of it. LOLOLOL

He's a doll!

there's some wisdom behind this...[you know] what i mean too. im begining to think alike.

 

[Frisky]

there's some wisdom behind this...[you know] what i mean too. im begining to think alike.

 

[Bikini Mod]

He'll prolly trade me in for 2 - 20yr olds in a few years... LOL

tell ya what though, If he is still with me after this long with the baggage I have had to deal with and still wants to marry me... I'll take a few years more of it. LOLOLOL

He's a doll!

From your lips to the ears of God.

There are AMAZING men out there. Not very many, but they are out there. We as women only have to be able to recognize them and LET THEM STEP UP AND HELP TAKE CARE OF US.

Good for you gurl! GOOD FOR THE BOTH OF YOU!!!

 

[PBR]

yea. chk ur K.

 

[habitualhealth]

BEAU!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (yes I said it... lol) in the world. Sure we have ups and downs like all other couples but the good always is 10x's better than the bad.

Since our move and or decision to open up a ranch (temp location right now) everything is so smoth no matter what obsticle we face, we face them together. His training business is kicking off and together we are maintaing stalls and such.

I honestly set myself up as being a single mother for the rest of my life after my divorce. I never thought I could find a person that would love and respect my kids the way I do. Never thought I could find someone that would even think of taking on such a responsibility.

He doesn't have tons of money, he's young, he's never settled down in this manner with an older woman 2 kids... responsibilities, hardship, Xhusbands, crazy mother-in-law, me bitching about work... (I'm a hand full... LOL)

Well, he's helped me out so much and I had time to actually sit down and think about how just little things mean a world to me. I was always the 'do'er' Functions for kid, drop off at school, pick up from school, etc etc. I've not one time asked him but he always offers and never complains. He's been a huge help with me being sick, or job interviews, or even if its me time and he pushes me out the door.



Now...

HH.... here is a me me me thread dammit...

hee hee

Just makin' sure i was mentioned. You may continue now.

 

[billfred]

Who is doing the backbend ??

 

[chewyxrage]

I thought you were a strong ebony woman

 

[Ilk]

BEAU!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (yes I said it... lol) in the world. Sure we have ups and downs like all other couples but the good always is 10x's better than the bad.

Since our move and or decision to open up a ranch (temp location right now) everything is so smoth no matter what obsticle we face, we face them together. His training business is kicking off and together we are maintaing stalls and such.

I honestly set myself up as being a single mother for the rest of my life after my divorce. I never thought I could find a person that would love and respect my kids the way I do. Never thought I could find someone that would even think of taking on such a responsibility.

He doesn't have tons of money, he's young, he's never settled down in this manner with an older woman 2 kids... responsibilities, hardship, Xhusbands, crazy mother-in-law, me bitching about work... (I'm a hand full... LOL)

Well, he's helped me out so much and I had time to actually sit down and think about how just little things mean a world to me. I was always the 'do'er' Functions for kid, drop off at school, pick up from school, etc etc. I've not one time asked him but he always offers and never complains. He's been a huge help with me being sick, or job interviews, or even if its me time and he pushes me out the door.



Now...

HH.... here is a me me me thread dammit...

hee hee

Thats so sweet... that made me smile...

I'm glad all is great with you both...

hands in da aiiiiir... wave em' round like you just don't caarrrrrreee!!!!!

 

[fistfullofsteel]

file this under the gay files aka the jerkbox files

 

[Frisky]

From your lips to the ears of God.

There are AMAZING men out there. Not very many, but they are out there. We as women only have to be able to recognize them and LET THEM STEP UP AND HELP TAKE CARE OF US.

Good for you gurl! GOOD FOR THE BOTH OF YOU!!!

we have talked openly about my skepticism, doubt, fear and independance openly. I talk way to much, he listens really really well. AND vise versa... he tells me over and over again how great of a person I am, my inner and outer beauty and my strong will and persistance captivates him. I used to have a hard time hearing that due to some emotional things in my life. I've been there for him and he for me... Its my nature to care, love and support everyone that I care for to a degree at times that puts me in a financial and stressful binding situation.

Both my kids have a good dad, just that if there is any benifit of his help to me he refuses to help. I've since accepted his flaw, dealt with it for years and now see more of a light on it than I did 11 years of being with him. Still to this day, and its really sad SAD SAD to acknowledge... that this man in my life will drop what he's doing to help me in time of needs pertaining to help with my kids, not his kids... Their own father, whom is given any day of the week and time of the day to see and spend time with them, does not take.

This all brought about due to him promising his kids that he would bring them eat somewhere this week. I'd offered up a favor to a teacher and friend of my son that i'd keep him Monday - Wednesday for her to move. He loves coming over and we do so much at the farm, he's a pleasure to be around. I just didn't think it right to let my X take my kids and have this other boy with me and C at the farm alone. So he told them he would take them tonight... So when I called i made the mistake to say that it would be nice if it were tonight because a few old friends/work mates are meeting up for old times sake and I'd like to attend. Immediately he said NO, he'd do it some other time. Then... on the other hand my beau tells me not to worry, he will pick them up from school, get the homework and studies done, and they will go to the farm and then grab supper out.

 

[Frisky]

I thought you were a strong ebony woman

I am... but i'm just really white right now. LOL

 

[Ilk]

From your lips to the ears of God.

There are AMAZING men out there. Not very many, but they are out there. We as women only have to be able to recognize them and LET THEM STEP UP AND HELP TAKE CARE OF US.

Good for you gurl! GOOD FOR THE BOTH OF YOU!!!

I hear that BM... Spot on there!

 

[Bikini Mod]

we have talked openly about my skepticism, doubt, fear and independance openly. I talk way to much, he listens really really well. AND vise versa... he tells me over and over again how great of a person I am, my inner and outer beauty and my strong will and persistance captivates him. I used to have a hard time hearing that due to some emotional things in my life. I've been there for him and he for me... Its my nature to care, love and support everyone that I care for to a degree at times that puts me in a financial and stressful binding situation.

Both my kids have a good dad, just that if there is any benifit of his help to me he refuses to help. I've since accepted his flaw, dealt with it for years and now see more of a light on it than I did 11 years of being with him. Still to this day, and its really sad SAD SAD to acknowledge... that this man in my life will drop what he's doing to help me in time of needs pertaining to help with my kids, not his kids... Their own father, whom is given any day of the week and time of the day to see and spend time with them, does not take.

This all brought about due to him promising his kids that he would bring them eat somewhere this week. I'd offered up a favor to a teacher and friend of my son that i'd keep him Monday - Wednesday for her to move. He loves coming over and we do so much at the farm, he's a pleasure to be around. I just didn't think it right to let my X take my kids and have this other boy with me and C at the farm alone. So he told them he would take them tonight... So when I called i made the mistake to say that it would be nice if it were tonight because a few old friends/work mates are meeting up for old times sake and I'd like to attend. Immediately he said NO, he'd do it some other time. Then... on the other hand my beau tells me not to worry, he will pick them up from school, get the homework and studies done, and they will go to the farm and then grab supper out.

Who it is sad for? You, your bf, your kids?

NOT

Family is not determined by blood alone. Though your honey is not the man that sired your children by his volunteering his love and life to your kids HE IS MAKING THEM HIS KIDS TOO.

My three younger children ARE DYING to have a REAL father. (My oldest is too busy being my ex's wife to even realize that she is missing one.) My baby VOLUNTEERED that she wants to call my husband - DADDY... not STEPDADDY, an idea that came from her mind, heart and lips alone. Both my husband and I near passed out when we heard it.

Accept the fact that your children's biological father doesnt have a clue how lucky he is to have such fine children and to have such a great woman for their mother.

Revel in the fact that the current man in your life DOES.

The way I see it, there is no one here that need be sad except the one person who isn't.

 

[Frisky]

I hear that BM... Spot on there!

you have you a good one hun! Oh... and tell him that new show, ummm... Wedding Bells... Michael Landes looks like him in some profile shots...

 

[ksharp01]

Where does one find such a catch?
Lord knows I have tried

 

[heatherrae]

aaawwwwww...frisky, I think the world of you. You just have a really kind, no-nonsense spirit about you. You deserve this happiness, certainly. =-)



PBR, I will marry you tomorrow. You want to get married? lol. You would make me a better person just by my constant quest to measure up to such a great person.

 

[Bikini Mod]

Where does one find such a catch?
Lord knows I have tried

Believe it or not because we have become so darned independent we only attract the losers who actually leach off of us. It takes a REALLY strong woman to ALLOW a man to step up and be a man. Scary, the concept of giving yet another man the opportunity to disappoint you.

Dont settle for less than what you deserve in life.

If he hasn't followed through on his promises or isn't treating you the way that you deserve to be treated, then just move on.

NEVER EVER SETTLE.

 

[Ilk]

you have you a good one hun! Oh... and tell him that new show, ummm... Wedding Bells... Michael Landes looks like him in some profile shots...

The way you feel about yours... I feel like that with mine..

I'll tell him about Michael Landes....

I'm so glad you're so happy and found someone so sweet and caring!

Awww!!!!!!

 

[all the whey]

Those older women sure can fuck.

 

[Frisky]

Whose it is sad for? You, your bf, your kids?

NOT

Family is not determined by blood alone. Though your honey is not the man that sired your children by his volunteering his love and life to your kids HE IS MAKING THEM HIS KIDS TOO.

My three younger children ARE DYING to have a REAL father. (My oldest is too busy being my ex's wife to even realize that she is missing one.) My baby VOLUNTEERED that she wants to call my husband - DADDY... not STEPDADDY, an idea that came from her mind, heart and lips alone. Both my husband and I near passed out when we heard it.

Accept the fact that your children's biological father doesnt have a clue how lucky he is to have such fine children and to have such a great woman for their mother.

Revel in the fact that the current man in your life DOES.

The way I see it, there is no one here that need be sad except the one person who isn't.

I hear you loud and clear... really I do! I had a father and a daddy... one of each different. The man that raised me, loved me, protected me and provided for me was not the man that made me. Years past and he wanted more to do with me, but still my animosity lived inside of me and it took years to finally let go. Soon after and two kids of my own after he died. I don't want my kids to not know their father due to his hatred and ill will of me. This will now and forever bother me because I know how much they love and adore this man. They don't have much of a clue as to what we went thru and what they did witness was post seperation... I wish to keep it that way and will forever put their father upon that pedestal for them to love, and allow any window of opportunity for him to spend time with them.

I guess I've been told I was wrong all my life, put down, let down... no need to go on.. .that his ill words to me have me believing that it is me whom is a bad mother. All the while he has himself, gf, her two kids, and when my kids are with them... my two kids in a Fema camper WHEN HE HAS A HOME OF HIS OWN. My kids don't like going because its so uncomfortable. He doesn't listen to them... though I don't believe in just bowing down to my kids, I do believe their voice should be heard.

Her (his gf) losing her home is very unfortunate. I'm sorry she did... I also lost alot... 8 floods in 4 years. I made a solid decision to better that and though I do however live in sin (in religious beliefs) I have a solid stable enviroment for my kids and a loving family around them non-stop.

I've butted my head against the wall over and over trying to explain to this man how communication, and one on one will only help our kids and he always finds a fault in me... like, I work to much ( um.... you don't pay me shit to help) I moved them from the only home they knew ( UM... it floods 2-3 times a year and they lose everything)

I know now I have support and love, compassion and help... I throw my hands up to him... when he decides he will man up... let our divorce be final, what we had be a past... then and only then will I agree to talk to him about how he can help me, help make our two beautiful wonderful children wonderful amazing people that will impact the lives of many in the most beautiful way possible..

 

[Sassy69]

If i could find one that I dont' have to babysit....

 

[ksharp01]

Believe it or not because we have become so darned independent we only attract the losers who actually leach off of us. It takes a REALLY strong woman to ALLOW a man to step up and be a man. Scary, the concept of giving yet another man the opportunity to disappoint you.

Dont settle for less than what you deserve in life.

If he hasn't followed through on his promises or isn't treating you the way that you deserve to be treated, then just move on.

NEVER EVER SETTLE.

You are dead on sister!!!!!!!
High five!!!!!!!!!

I do seem to be the one that catches leaches!!!!
It's almost like I want to help them or something when in fact they are the only one that can help them. hope that makes sense.

 

[Bikini Mod]

I hear you loud and clear... really I do! I had a father and a daddy... one of each different. The man that raised me, loved me, protected me and provided for me was not the man that made me. Years past and he wanted more to do with me, but still my animosity lived inside of me and it took years to finally let go. Soon after and two kids of my own after he died. I don't want my kids to not know their father due to his hatred and ill will of me. This will now and forever bother me because I know how much they love and adore this man. They don't have much of a clue as to what we went thru and what they did witness was post seperation... I wish to keep it that way and will forever put their father upon that pedestal for them to love, and allow any window of opportunity for him to spend time with them.

I guess I've been told I was wrong all my life, put down, let down... no need to go on.. .that his ill words to me have me believing that it is me whom is a bad mother. All the while he has himself, gf, her two kids, and when my kids are with them... my two kids in a Fema camper WHEN HE HAS A HOME OF HIS OWN. My kids don't like going because its so uncomfortable. He doesn't listen to them... though I don't believe in just bowing down to my kids, I do believe their voice should be heard.

Her (his gf) losing her home is very unfortunate. I'm sorry she did... I also lost alot... 8 floods in 4 years. I made a solid decision to better that and though I do however live in sin (in religious beliefs) I have a solid stable enviroment for my kids and a loving family around them non-stop.

I've butted my head against the wall over and over trying to explain to this man how communication, and one on one will only help our kids and he always finds a fault in me... like, I work to much ( um.... you don't pay me shit to help) I moved them from the only home they knew ( UM... it floods 2-3 times a year and they lose everything)

I know now I have support and love, compassion and help... I throw my hands up to him... when he decides he will man up... let our divorce be final, what we had be a past... then and only then will I agree to talk to him about how he can help me, help make our two beautiful wonderful children wonderful amazing people that will impact the lives of many in the most beautiful way possible..

Heed my words darlin'... cause it was something I had to learn the hard way:

It is not YOUR JOB to fascilitate a relationship between your children and their biological father. THAT IS HIS JOB... Just as it is never right to impede a relationship (which you clearly have never done).

The current man in your life sounds like he wants to and IS their daddy. As you know, that is more than enough for you AND your kids.

Good for you, pretty lady.... good for you!!!

 

[Bikini Mod]

You are dead on sister!!!!!!!
High five!!!!!!!!!

I do seem to be the one that catches leaches!!!!
It's almost like I want to help them or something when in fact they are the only one that can help them. hope that makes sense.

Then change the way that you behave.

I am not saying that you shouldnt continue to be an honest, loving, decent person. What I am telling you is LET a man step up if he says he wants to. If he steps up - GREAT. If he lets you down, hollah.. NEXT!!! and go about your business until a REAL MAN comes along. Then let him be a man and take care of you.

 

[alien amp pharm]

BM fussing at men leeching is irony at its finest.






(go ahead and type your novel sized rant out BM I'm not clicking on this thread anymore)

 

[ksharp01]

Then change the way that you behave.

I am not saying that you shouldnt continue to be an honest, loving, decent person. What I am telling you is LET a man step up if he says he wants to. If he steps up - GREAT. If he lets you down, hollah.. NEXT!!! and go about your business until a REAL MAN comes along. Then let him be a man and take care of you.

and if they start out telling me "baby, your just to good for me" I will believe what he says is true and pick up my skirt and run the other way!! lol
I do think that men are honest like this sometimes....but some of us don't listen very well.

 

[mountain muscle]

BM fussing at men leeching is irony at its finest.






(go ahead and type your novel sized rant out BM I'm not clicking on this thread anymore)

You should really go back and read about her past. Yes she types out a lot, she has a lot on her mind and has endured alot. a man leech is the last thing I would ever call her. Most of her frusterations comes from the kids and what they have had to endure.
I have always thought that it is pretty cool and bold of her to share such a huge part of her life. I would never do that. I know she did it partly as a release, I don't understand why people attack her for doing so.

 

[Bikini Mod]

and if they start out telling me "baby, your just to good for me" I will believe what he says is true and pick up my skirt and run the other way!! lol
I do think that men are honest like this sometimes....but some of us don't listen very well.

WERD

Here is a hard pill to swallow... ALL MEN LIE.

The sooner we accept this as women, the happier we will be.

That is why I say, if a man wants to make promises, then give him the opportunity to make good IF you are interested in him. If he brings it - GREAT. If not, move on.

And you are soooooooooooooo correct, that we as women DO NOT LISTEN VERY WELL.

 

[Bikini Mod]

BM fussing at men leeching is irony at its finest.






(go ahead and type your novel sized rant out BM I'm not clicking on this thread anymore)

LOL sorta like you touting yourself and your sister as an excellent example of what can come of a two parent household with great morals and values?

And ummm where you see me "fussing about men leeching"? I am telling the women to be accountable for THEIR own behavior and not blaming the men at all,

You have NO CLUE what you are talking about on this or any other topic really and that, my dear boy, is abundantly clear.

 

[Bikini Mod]

You should really go back and read about her past. Yes she types out a lot, she has a lot on her mind and has endured alot. a man leech is the last thing I would ever call her. Most of her frusterations comes from the kids and what they have had to endure.
I have always thought that it is pretty cool and bold of her to share such a huge part of her life. I would never do that. I know she did it partly as a release, I don't understand why people attack her for doing so.

You write as if you know us...

Do tell.












Honestly, Mr MM... your kind words touch me. Thank you.

 

[heatherrae]

You should really go back and read about her past. Yes she types out a lot, she has a lot on her mind and has endured alot. a man leech is the last thing I would ever call her. Most of her frusterations comes from the kids and what they have had to endure.
I have always thought that it is pretty cool and bold of her to share such a huge part of her life. I would never do that. I know she did it partly as a release, I don't understand why people attack her for doing so.

Amen!

aap is a little boy with insecurities about women. He can't have them, so he lashes out at them.

 

[Sub-Zero]

its funny all hes doing for you, you probably drain him and dont do for him nearly as much as he does for you

 

[heatherrae]

I doubt that very much sublime. She is the type of gal who would give the shirt off her back, from my impression.

 

[mountain muscle]

Amen!

aap is a little boy with insecurities about women. He can't have them, so he lashes out at them.

In all honesty, I don't think that about him. I think he may be frusterated about some things and joins in people bashing BM on this board because she speaks her mind and is honest about what is going on in her life way more than most of us are.
Much like Sub saying what he just did.

 

[Sub-Zero]

I doubt that very much sublime. She is the type of gal who would give the shirt off her back, from my impression.

i think she would do alot, in terms of laundry and cooking and busting ass to bring in bills, but would complain and yell and project her stress on him and always expect him bend over backwards and be understanding of her moods..

and then if HE is stressed and has a bad time and snaps back at her, she go fuck the paper boy, or at least flirt with him to make beau jealous.

but i still think shes kind hearted, just a bit insane, possibly from doing too much bullshit for everyone and everything

 

[Frisky]

alrighty peeps... this is about how amazingly greatful to have found someone not only to love me, but to share a family and such baggage with me. Now stop or I will put all of you in the corner... dangit.

BM, though I understand your statement, I don't desire to have anyone replace my kids father ever. Though I know in actions he is doing a ton more than thier own, but I want for them what I desired my entire life. I run around in circles trying to get it ... like looking for a corner in a round room. All I ever desire in my kids life is happiness, love and some sort of stability, a open honest relationship and understanding of life and how hateful and uncompassionate people can be... all the while teaching them to treat everyone with respect like they would desire to be treated.

Believe me... I struggle, my son is a very outspoken child and though he will never curse or degrade another, when he is right he will not bow down to anyone. He is the spawn of his mother and therefor how do I say a word about that... LOL.

I've been struggling with school and a teacher that hates his grandmother... and is taking it out on him and my daughter and another cousin. she is the one that dared lie her hands on my son, also told my son in front of a class of peers that his parents nor his grandparents cared about him. Its a constant struggle with her, and sad to say due to no one doing a damn thing I have to tell my son to endure all of these things and turn the other cheek.

Its a back stabbing world here... but kids should not have to put up with this kind of treatment... ever.

 

[Sub-Zero]

alrighty peeps... this is about how amazingly greatful to have found someone not only to love me, but to share a family and such baggage with me. Now stop or I will put all of you in the corner... dangit.

BM, though I understand your statement, I don't desire to have anyone replace my kids father ever. Though I know in actions he is doing a ton more than thier own, but I want for them what I desired my entire life. I run around in circles trying to get it ... like looking for a corner in a round room. All I ever desire in my kids life is happiness, love and some sort of stability, a open honest relationship and understanding of life and how hateful and uncompassionate people can be... all the while teaching them to treat everyone with respect like they would desire to be treated.

Believe me... I struggle, my son is a very outspoken child and though he will never curse or degrade another, when he is right he will not bow down to anyone. He is the spawn of his mother and therefor how do I say a word about that... LOL.

I've been struggling with school and a teacher that hates his grandmother... and is taking it out on him and my daughter and another cousin. she is the one that dared lie her hands on my son, also told my son in front of a class of peers that his parents nor his grandparents cared about him. Its a constant struggle with her, and sad to say due to no one doing a damn thing I have to tell my son to endure all of these things and turn the other cheek.

Its a back stabbing world here... but kids should not have to put up with this kind of treatment... ever.

i didnt read this post

 

[Frisky]

its funny all hes doing for you, you probably drain him and dont do for him nearly as much as he does for you

lol

funny you say....

I just recently funded 100% to establish this farm we are putting together as a team. Built the stalls, provided the ground work and all other things needed to get it going.

I am by far flowing in money, but see something in this operation that I am interested in, therefore I made my own choice to allow him to devote his time to getting in the horses and maintaing the property, and I'd be there helping with the money. He could leave me tomorrow and i'd be out of thousands, but no worries... the ride was amazing.


We both do our part, I made decent enough money to support me and my kids alone... why would I need a man to help?

 

[Frisky]

i think she would do alot, in terms of laundry and cooking and busting ass to bring in bills, but would complain and yell and project her stress on him and always expect him bend over backwards and be understanding of her moods..

and then if HE is stressed and has a bad time and snaps back at her, she go fuck the paper boy, or at least flirt with him to make beau jealous.

but i still think shes kind hearted, just a bit insane, possibly from doing too much bullshit for everyone and everything

lol... you really don't know me at all do you?

I was kidding about 'stress' of course we all have it... I go from work getting homework done, then to the stalls... cleaning and feeding, riding and training, building and fixing... to back home, laundry and cooking, pampering and listening. I do not have to have 1% interest in this project, I have alot on my plate already... my kids, my career, home, stability, college education, bettering life... I do it because I SUPPORT HIM.

I gave up my houseplan business so that I could spend more time helping... Where as, I'd be bring in money, i'm dishing out money. Now... pray do tell where you see a money sucking bitch?

The thing I know he has in me... and that I have in him... is belief! Hard times yes... may go a month where i'm stressed to the gills with bills and such because so much money is poured into this establishment... but I know and believe in him and his skills to do something amazing. It did take time, and I was the only source of income while we were establishing it all... But its paying off... not just with money, but with the fact that we are doing it!

 

[beefcake28]

WERD

Here is a hard pill to swallow... ALL MEN LIE.

The sooner we accept this as women, the happier we will be.

That is why I say, if a man wants to make promises, then give him the opportunity to make good IF you are interested in him. If he brings it - GREAT. If not, move on.

And you are soooooooooooooo correct, that we as women DO NOT LISTEN VERY WELL.

Bullshit. Believe it or not, some of us don't lie. It's called having integrity.

 

[Frisky]

I doubt that very much sublime. She is the type of gal who would give the shirt off her back, from my impression.

yes i would hr... thank you

 

[Bikini Mod]

Bullshit. Believe it or not, some of us don't lie. It's called having integrity.

Having integrity by following through on your promises is one thing. Stretching the truth or giving a lie of ommission because you want to get some pussy is quite another.... dont you agree?

 

[Bikini Mod]

And yes.... Frisky WOULD give you the shirt off of her back, just one of the reasons that many have taken advantage of her kindness... I know because she and I are very much alike in this respect.

You are an exceptional woman, Ms Frisky... but you already know that, dont you!!

 

[Sub-Zero]

lol

funny you say....

I just recently funded 100% to establish this farm we are putting together as a team. Built the stalls, provided the ground work and all other things needed to get it going.

I am by far flowing in money, but see something in this operation that I am interested in, therefore I made my own choice to allow him to devote his time to getting in the horses and maintaing the property, and I'd be there helping with the money. He could leave me tomorrow and i'd be out of thousands, but no worries... the ride was amazing.


We both do our part, I made decent enough money to support me and my kids alone... why would I need a man to help?

just like u need to be emotionally supported, so does he, and frankly i just dont see you as being the type of person who can put a mans feelings in front of your own.

its not an insult, so dont take it like one

 

[Sub-Zero]

lol... you really don't know me at all do you?

I was kidding about 'stress' of course we all have it... I go from work getting homework done, then to the stalls... cleaning and feeding, riding and training, building and fixing... to back home, laundry and cooking, pampering and listening. I do not have to have 1% interest in this project, I have alot on my plate already... my kids, my career, home, stability, college education, bettering life... I do it because I SUPPORT HIM.

I gave up my houseplan business so that I could spend more time helping... Where as, I'd be bring in money, i'm dishing out money. Now... pray do tell where you see a money sucking bitch?

The thing I know he has in me... and that I have in him... is belief! Hard times yes... may go a month where i'm stressed to the gills with bills and such because so much money is poured into this establishment... but I know and believe in him and his skills to do something amazing. It did take time, and I was the only source of income while we were establishing it all... But its paying off... not just with money, but with the fact that we are doing it!

i hope things workout for you guys

 

[Sub-Zero]

Having integrity by following through on your promises is one thing. Stretching the truth or giving a lie of ommission because you want to get some pussy is quite another.... dont you agree?

problems with the lawn gnome?

 

[beefcake28]

Having integrity by following through on your promises is one thing. Stretching the truth or giving a lie of ommission because you want to get some pussy is quite another.... dont you agree?

I do agree. At the same time, I won't make a promise that I can't follow through with... "stretching the truth" or giving a lie of omission are still considered lies, as far as I am concerned. I don't play that game, for any reason. What's your point?

You can try to rationalize it, sub-categorize it, or label a lie as something else (i.e. "stretching the truth" or giving a lie of omission), that doesn't change the fact that it is still a lie. True integrity doesn't change based on circumstances or situations...

Besides... If I ever had to lie, just to "get some pussy", somethin' ain't right. How sad.

 

[Frisky]

i hope things workout for you guys

thank you... as do I! I've become really fond of his family as they have me, my kids are really fond of him as they are he. I had the longest sit down with his mother whom, i'd not met for nearly 6-7 months after we even started dating... then not spent time with alone and alot until lately and she is just really astounded with our relationship due to his past on and off again's. Then again, college student... parents providing... no care in the world and JUST from hear say was only with girls whom were in the same boat and or didn't appreciate his generious ways and kind heart and he was shunned to even allow his heart to fall ever again.

She is an amazing lady (his mother) welcomed my kids and me with open arms... when i get there i'm giving a hug and kiss and welcomed in to her home. The other night was our first ever open talk about 'me and C' Future and all... beings i'm putting so much into this farm we are building and trying to get sparked up. She knows I love her son, support him... good and bad, and he me. Never in a million years did she expect for me to tell her that C wanted a kid soon... and my reply was that I wanted to establish a solid household... a solid communication... and also a marriage under 'law' (notice i didn't say religion... even though i AM religious) before i would consider such a thing.

C was a man that due to losing 2 of his brothers, one at very young age and the other a bit older... was afraid of loss, and set his life up so that hurt would not be part of it. When we met, we both said... dating... no obligations, nothing really serious... lets have fun and enjoy life. However, we did fall for each other and just about a year later living together in a really nice home, sharing obligations and experiences, the good and bad...

We sat down yesterday in my horrible state of feeling like i was dying with food poison, as he rubbed me down and took care of me... and told me how greatful he was to have ever met me and that he never thought love for a person could be so peaceful and kind. He actually (not formally) Asked me if now marriage would be in our future... (because I was straight up with him and told him at the beginning I never wanted to marry again and he told me he never wanted to marry) At that point in time (mushy mushy) (even though we'd talked about it before... ) here is this man caring for me, im yacking up my guts for three days... have fluids coming out of both ends (sorry... i was really sick) and still he loves me... did the things that I couldn't do for myself at the time... drove me home, picked up my kids, helped with homework, was there with my son and peer and let them help him at the farm but also be boys... brought back home supper, did laundry and then got up and had the shower warm for me to wake to.

Now... no money in the world given or taken can replace that for me. I was both financially and emotionally deprived in one way or another all my life... but I will take being deprived financially deprived anyday for the feeling of having a strong hold by my side thru thick and thin.

 

[Frisky]

just like u need to be emotionally supported, so does he, and frankly i just dont see you as being the type of person who can put a mans feelings in front of your own.

its not an insult, so dont take it like one

You would be incredibly amazed... I have not before now accepted or asked for any emotional support... had a hard time doing so, just not fortunate in that area of my life. But I've given and given... I have said a few here but if you really want me to elaborate pm me... I really don't want to elaborate to much on my doings... more of what he is doing for me. And how greatful I am

 

[Bikini Mod]

I do agree. At the same time, I won't make a promise that I can't follow through with... "stretching the truth" or giving a lie of omission are still considered lies, as far as I am concerned. I don't play that game, for any reason. What's your point?

You can try to rationalize it, sub-categorize it, or label a lie as something else (i.e. "stretching the truth" or giving a lie of omission), that doesn't change the fact that it is still a lie. True integrity doesn't change based on circumstances or situations...

Besides... If I ever had to lie, just to "get some pussy", somethin' ain't right. How sad.

I dont lie ever, but then again, I am not a man. I dont HAVE to lie.

There is a very old expression in my language. In Hungarian, you "give" a lie. The expression goes, "A man is truly poor if he can not even give a lie."

And by man the expression does not mean "mankind" but a male. Men value beauty and women value security.... so think about the expression.

I am not slamming men, whatsoever, just trying to enlighten women to accept men for their nature.

 

[Bikini Mod]

problems with the lawn gnome?

LOL none whatsoever. Matter of fact I grow to love him more every day. Our lives are difficult, ya'll haven't a clue but I ain't complainin as we have each other.... before we only had life's difficulties. Now that we have one another to love and support, life's difficulties don't seem so tough.

 

[beefcake28]

I dont lie ever, but then again, I am not a man. I dont HAVE to lie.

There is a very old expression in my language. In Hungarian, you "give" a lie. The expression goes, "A man is truly poor if he can not even give a lie."

And by man the expression does not mean "mankind" but a male. Men value beauty and women value security.... so think about the expression.

I am not slamming men, whatsoever, just trying to enlighten women to accept men for their nature.

Are you trying to justify lying? Yes, or No. One word answer, please... I don't want to hear any more rationalizations, of any sort. Male or Female is irrelevant.

 

[Bikini Mod]

Are you trying to justify lying? Yes, or No. One word answer, please... I don't want to hear any more rationalizations, of any sort.

LOL

I dont HAVE to. I am not a man. The answer is NO - I am NOT justigying lying.

At a certain point in the relationship a man realizes that the woman he is pursuing is:

SPECIAL

and

NOT WORTH LOSING TO LIES BECAUSE SHE WONT TOLERATE THEM

so

He cuts it out.

But until that point men lie... they talk story as the day is long. And it is all good.

 

[Frisky]

LOL

I dont HAVE to. I am not a man.

At a certain point in the relationship a man realizes that the woman he is pursuing is:

SPECIAL

and

NOT WORTH LOSING TO LIES BECAUSE SHE WONT TOLERATE THEM

so

He cuts it out.

But until that point men lie... they talk story as the day is long. And it is all good.

go check out your ring thread would ya.... tell me what ya think about my two posts... hurry hurry... I'm off with the girls for Italian food and good wine, haven't eaten in three days with me being sick. I will eat my arse off, so I have to start early. LOL

 

[beefcake28]

LOL

I dont HAVE to. I am not a man. The answer is NO - I am NOT justigying lying.

At a certain point in the relationship a man realizes that the woman he is pursuing is:

SPECIAL

and

NOT WORTH LOSING TO LIES BECAUSE SHE WONT TOLERATE THEM

so

He cuts it out.

But until that point men lie... they talk story as the day is long. And it is all good.

You can quote all the expressions you want... I refuse to be placed in your little "all men lie" category. I don't lie, ever, for any reason. Stop trying to tell me that I do...

I do understand the point you are trying to make, though... I just don't personally agree with it.

 

[Bikini Mod]

go check out your ring thread would ya.... tell me what ya think about my two posts... hurry hurry... I'm off with the girls for Italian food and good wine, haven't eaten in three days with me being sick. I will eat my arse off, so I have to start early. LOL

I did ... and answered. You are not going to believe it!!!

 

[ortiz34]

Listen, I'm madly in love with my fiance and think the world of her but decide not to make a thread about it everyday like I got something to prove.

In short, this thread makes me gag.

I'm sure after a year of dating you thought the same as your ex. Your not going to admit it, but we all know ya did.

 

[Frisky]

Listen, I'm madly in love with my fiance and think the world of her but decide not to make a thread about it everyday like I got something to prove.

In short, this thread makes me gag.

I'm sure after a year of dating you thought the same as your ex. Your not going to admit it, but we all know ya did.

then bow out mr chairman... I will gloat every day that I desire to gloat. Work on your gag reflux also...

and NO, after a year of dating my X I didn't think the same. But i'm sure you know my situation better than me.

 

[biteme]

I have an amazing beauette. I've put on 13 lbs. since her arrival.