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EliteFitnessGuy
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I don't know, if you do regular blood tests, but my impression from SARMs is more and more negative.
At first I was using S4 for some time in 2010. It was great during PCT, becauce it didn't affect the recovery of my testosterone. But the effect was almost nil, until I reached 50 mg/day. After reaching 50-60 mg/day, it had a tremendeous influence on strength endurance, but I don't think that it is suitable for rapid strength gains.
It seems to me that the anabolic curve in this stuff is quite steep and it basically doesn't work at all at low doses (10-20 mg/day). In contrast, 10 mg oxandrolone can luxuriously keep my muscle gains. The most negative effect was the well-known problem with night vision that became very irritating after prolonged use. But liver values and cholesterol were O.K.
My experience with Ostarine was much worse. In January this year, I ordered an alleged Ostarine powder from China and I used it during PCT. I felt virtually nothing even at 40 mg/day, and my liver values after 4,5 weeks were terrible. My friend-chemist warned me that this stuff is derived from a highly toxic chemical, but I still hoped that I had only got some Chinese garbage and I ordered a new parcel from a well-established internet company. Their S4 is apparently legit, as evidenced by the problems with vision, and I think that their Ostarine was legit as well.
However, the same problems repeated. I was taking only 10-15 mg/day together with 30-40 mg S4, but my liver values again went up. My testosterone after 3 weeks was 50 ng/dl, i.e. heavily supressed. I stopped using it for 7 weeks and I started a new cycle on Sunday with 12.5 mg Ostarine and 35 mg S4 daily. After mere 4 days, my liver values again skyrocketed (they are 20% above the upper limit already, despite the fact that 3 weeks ago they were fine) and my testosterone is falling down rapidly (195 ng/dl).
I may not be just the best responder to this drug, but I have already read several stories of guys, who used Ostarine and their liver values were elevated. I don't think that Ostarine is just the best SARMs ever developed. Although Anavar always ruined my chjolesterol, it has never elevated my liver values so high, even at 80 mg/day. In fact, they have never been higher than the upper limit. This indicates a pretty high hepatotoxicity of Ostarine. I would rather prefer S4, although it is not just the strongest anabolic drug and the issues with vision can have unpredictable long-term consequences.
At first I was using S4 for some time in 2010. It was great during PCT, becauce it didn't affect the recovery of my testosterone. But the effect was almost nil, until I reached 50 mg/day. After reaching 50-60 mg/day, it had a tremendeous influence on strength endurance, but I don't think that it is suitable for rapid strength gains.
It seems to me that the anabolic curve in this stuff is quite steep and it basically doesn't work at all at low doses (10-20 mg/day). In contrast, 10 mg oxandrolone can luxuriously keep my muscle gains. The most negative effect was the well-known problem with night vision that became very irritating after prolonged use. But liver values and cholesterol were O.K.
My experience with Ostarine was much worse. In January this year, I ordered an alleged Ostarine powder from China and I used it during PCT. I felt virtually nothing even at 40 mg/day, and my liver values after 4,5 weeks were terrible. My friend-chemist warned me that this stuff is derived from a highly toxic chemical, but I still hoped that I had only got some Chinese garbage and I ordered a new parcel from a well-established internet company. Their S4 is apparently legit, as evidenced by the problems with vision, and I think that their Ostarine was legit as well.
However, the same problems repeated. I was taking only 10-15 mg/day together with 30-40 mg S4, but my liver values again went up. My testosterone after 3 weeks was 50 ng/dl, i.e. heavily supressed. I stopped using it for 7 weeks and I started a new cycle on Sunday with 12.5 mg Ostarine and 35 mg S4 daily. After mere 4 days, my liver values again skyrocketed (they are 20% above the upper limit already, despite the fact that 3 weeks ago they were fine) and my testosterone is falling down rapidly (195 ng/dl).
I may not be just the best responder to this drug, but I have already read several stories of guys, who used Ostarine and their liver values were elevated. I don't think that Ostarine is just the best SARMs ever developed. Although Anavar always ruined my chjolesterol, it has never elevated my liver values so high, even at 80 mg/day. In fact, they have never been higher than the upper limit. This indicates a pretty high hepatotoxicity of Ostarine. I would rather prefer S4, although it is not just the strongest anabolic drug and the issues with vision can have unpredictable long-term consequences.
