HYPOTHYRODISM from T3 --> Help !!!!

[junk]

Maybe I have secondary Hypothyrodism. That is when TSH is quite low (like my blood test showed)

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Primary hypothyroidism - the most common type - will always have a higher than normal TSH in the earliest stages, while the Total T4 and FreeT4 results may be normal.

Secondary hypothyroidism - is due to an abnormality in the pituitary gland not the thyroid gland and usually includes a low TSH not a high TSH. Therefore, a person could be hypothyroid but have a TSH result that would seem to show the person is hyperthyroid. This is not a very common illness. The FT4I test is used to determine treatment with thyroid hormone replacement in these hypothyroid patients and not the standard TSH test.
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This is getting complicated. can someone help? Maybe the HCG I was start taking in the last 10 days of my cycle (750ui ed) fucked up my pituitary gland ?

I think I will also make a Prolactin blood test tomorrow. Maybe the bromo at 2.5mg a day didn't stop the prolactin from the fina. who knows.

 

[leancuisine]

t3 - WAY OVERRATED!!!!

ec stack twice a day at 50mg a pop every other day will kick t-3 in the ass any day, anywhere, anytime!

 

[Nelson Montana]

No offense bro, but what do you expect anyone here to do? You have a condition that requires medical attention. Listening to the idiots who recommend T3 is what got you in this situation in the first place. Maybe you should listen to your doctor now.

 

[Fonz]

No offense bro, but what do you expect anyone here to do? You have a condition that requires medical attention. Listening to the idiots who recommend T3 is what got you in this situation in the first place. Maybe you should listen to your doctor now.

He does not have any type of hypo-thyroidic condition.

No cycle that low will screw up your thyroid for life.

It is more than likely that he is hyper-sensitive to exogenous T3,
and therefore he downregulated his thyroid.....via TSH attrophy(Look at his numbers....specially TSH).

It takes 8 weeks for the thyroid to fully recover after this.

He can start by taking L-tyrosine(12g/day) or Acetyl-L-tyrosine.

Other than that, nothing much he can do.

Fonz

 

[Fonz]

Re: ** BLOOD RESULTS ARE IN!!! **

Ok friends, blood tests arrived 5 minutes ago

HELP

T3 : Ng/DL < 40 (Normal range: 72-170)

FT4: Ng/DL 1.2 (Normal range: 0.8-1.9)

TSH: iu/ml 0.60 (Normal range: 0.40-4.00)


As I suspected having the EXACT symptoms of Hipothyrodism I was RIGHT.

Let me remind you that I was using only LOW dosages of T3 for ONLY less than a month !! Tapering up and down.

I kept detailed records of my T3 usage:

3 days: 6.25
5 days: 12.5
2 days: 18.75
2 days: 25
4 days: 37.5
3 days: 25
3 days: 18.75
3 days: 12.5
2 days: 6.25 This last dose was taken almost a month ago!

My symptoms began 4 days ago 3 weeks after last T3 pill was taken.

I was also on Fina for 6 weeks at 150mg EOD (Last injection was 3 days ago) along with Bromocriptine at 2.5mg ED during the 6 weeks time of the Fina.

I am also on HCG at 750iu a day for last 10 days of my cycle (Today will be the last HCG shot).

I am wondering if the TSH may be wrong because the HCG may give a false TSH reading perhaps?

Now I made a good research over the Internet and it seems this Hypothyrodism shit is not a simple issue. Many doctors don't agree with one another of the issues of TSH, Free T3 and opposed to free T4 and the use of Armour(T3,T4 from pigs) as opposed to Synthroid. I've also read that a doctor can pretty much FUCK my thyroid by giving me medications that I'll have to stay for life as opposed to Natural therapies and giving more time for self healing.

I AM FUCKING DESPERATE. I FEEL LIKE SHIT. I CAN'T TRAIN.. I CAN'T WORK.. I AM DEPRESSED. I MAY BE GAINING ALL THE WEIGHT I'VE LOST IN MY CUTTING CYCLE AND BE A FAT MAN (40% DECREASE IN METABOLISM IN HYPOTHYROID ILL PEOPLE). AND I AM STILL LOOKING FOR A PRIVATE OPEN MINDED ENDOCRINOLOGYST.

Please interpret my Blood tests readings and tell me what the fuck is going on. This is my 4th cycle and nothing happened to me before..

BTW: As of two days ago I started upping the Bromo dosage to 5mg (two pills a day) in hope that maybe my Prolactin levels cause all this shit. But 2.5mg should have been enough.

Here are my blood test results following 16 WEEKS of T3.

T4, Total: 5.0 Range: 4.5-12.5

T3, up-take: 47% Normal: 27.8-40.7

T4, Free(Calculated): 2.4 Normal: 1.6-3.7

T4, Free(Non-dyalisis): 2.1 Normal: 0.8-1.5

TSH: 1.8 Normal 0.4-5.5

Now Yours:

T3 : Ng/DL < 40 (Normal range: 72-170)

FT4: Ng/DL 1.2 (Normal range: 0.8-1.9)

TSH: iu/ml 0.60 (Normal range: 0.40-4.00)


The only thing that concerne me is the TSH reading.

Got to BAC or someone who carries it and get yourself some acetyl-L-Tyrosine.

Start at 12g/day.(Its what i used)

It should improve your TSH/T3/T4 functions.

Fonz

 

[DepressiveJuice]

Everything that transpires between you and your Dr cannot be released to ANYBODY. Not even your insurance company with out a written medical release form from you.

hmmm not really. i work for doctors and their employees, as well as the insurance have access to the patients records. unless you specify to the doctor who cant see your records.


FONZ what doses did you use for T3?

 

[Fonz]

hmmm not really. i work for doctors and their employees, as well as the insurance have access to the patients records. unless you specify to the doctor who cant see your records.


FONZ what doses did you use for T3?

A 150mcg ramp-up for 6 weeks.

Then 12.5-25mcgs for the other 10weeks.

Fonz

 

[Xtreme2001]

I don't want to scare you, but you may have to resort to medication for the rest of your life. Sure it may return to its normal state within time, but hypothyroidism itsn't fun.

I know someone who has it, and is on medication for the rest of his life.. it's not pretty.

 

[Quadsweep]

Quad,

Since you have done so well in past without T3, will you use it again? Do you think your short cycle of T3 enhanced your physique compared to prior competitions.

Well, I do think it helped somewhat. Clen starts to down regulate on me after two weeks or so so I think it kicked it back up. I will use it again even though when you start using it when you are in the 3.8% range you feel like shit and you starve to death!

Quad

 

[junk]

Thanks Fonz. I was considering going to a Endocrinology doctor but a friend of mine who's just got his MD told me, I should try to resolve this stuff without medication and without an endocrinology expert and see what happens within 2 weeks after the fina is flushed out of the system. He suggested I would go and check my Prolactin levels although I did take bromo. So I was thinking of going tomorrow for a prolactin check.

Second, I'm taking L-Tyrosine now, the literature states about 2000-3000mg a day not 12g. Are you sure I should take acetyl-L-Tyrosine (Probably a bounder L-Tyrosine I assume) at a dose of 12 gram a day?

Also, since this is exactly the end of my cuttingcycle which I can loose shit load of muscle and gain shit load of fat due to Hypothyrodism, do you think I should start Clomid and Clen ASAP ? I mean it looks like a double-edged sword, I don't know if the Clomid or Clen will fuck things even further. And should I continue the Bromo. God, my situation's getting complicated. Also, in fear of not gaining fat (Hypo can cause up to 40% degration in metabolism) I'm doing 60 minutes cardio on an empty stomach at 70vomax every day and eat only an hour later, but that contradicts the Clomid and Clen therapy post cycle. Your experience is so much greatly appreciated bro. Thank You.