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RyanH

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IT'S TIME TO KILL SOME MORE BIRDS
as a result of Bush's Assault on the Environment:

Assault #1: Bush has decided not to repeal an Idaho Court ruling that will strip away water rights for a federal wildlife Refuge along Snake River. The result is that hunters and predators will have access to birds that have been traditionally protected by Federal water rights law.

Assault #2: Bush will allow snowmobiles in Yellowstone National Park.

Assault #3: Bush has blocked plans to introduce grizzly bears in an Idaho wilderness.

Assault #4: Roadbuilding will be allowed in national forests.

Assault #5: Tough water pollution rules will be revamped since business and communities oppose them.

OVERALL: Bush is siding with communites and business and neglecting the environment. As always, MONEY WINS THE DAY in the Bush Administration.....

More assualts to be continued.......
 
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Sure, BC: I'm sure the extinction of many birds is a problem that can easily be solved in the future.

We also both know that when we begin building roads into wildlife, there will be no limit as to how far it will go.
There will be spiraling affect.....the wildlife will quickly become a place for more and more businesses to get to.
 
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kyoto still lives :) :nerd: :biggrin: :beer: :wavey: :kiss: :stpatty:

that makes me more happy. killing of protected species does really suck. but the bears thing might make sense, if there are resedential communities nearby.
 
IT'S TIME TO KILL SOME MORE BIRDS
as a result of Bush's Assault on the Environment:

Assault #1: Bush has decided not to repeal an Idaho Court ruling that will strip away water rights for a federal wildlife Refuge along Snake River. The result is that hunters and predators will have access to birds that have been traditionally protected by Federal water rights law.
Dumbass Ryan, there is still a bag limit imposed by the division of wildlife for hunters, so it matters not where they are harvesting the birds. And who are you to say a coyote, fox, or mink does not have the right to eat a duck?

Assault #2: Bush will allow snowmobiles in Yellowstone National Park.
They already are allowed there and there is no problem with it. It is not like the people are running animals over. Those animals up there are so used to people that it does not even stress them out to have a car 5 feet away with a bunch of dipshits snapping photos.

Assault #3: Bush has blocked plans to introduce grizzly bears in an Idaho wilderness. Ranchers dont want them. Campers don't want them. Deer and elk herds don't want them. And I cannot say I would really want them around when I am laying in a sleeping bag. Like you would ever go to Idaho and hike around looking at Grizzlies. You would not even see one until it was too late. And if the bear really wanted to live in Idaho he would migrate from neighboring Montana. Oh wait, there already are grizz in Idaho, the tree huggers just want to introduce more.


Assault #4: Roadbuilding will be allowed in national forests.
There are already roads in the national forest. Ever hear of a logger?

Assault #5: Tough water pollution rules will be revamped since business and communities oppose them. Yeah right, bush would love to see the environment poisoned, that was his goal for getting into office. Did you ever think that some of the laws are scientifically unreasonable?

OVERALL: Bush is siding with communites and business and neglecting the environment. As always, MONEY WINS THE DAY in the Bush Administration.....
I suppose you want corporations taxed so heavily that they shut down their American plants and move to Taiwana and Mexico where it is much more profitable? Thus laying off thousands of blue collar americans?

More assualts to be continued.......
 
MP5: You trust hunters, drivers of snowmobiles, and businesses much more than most reasonable people do.

We see where it gets us when we trust the private sector or the individual to protect the environment-----it only worsens the environment. Government is sometimes required to protect us from ourselves.

I'm also pleased to hear that you know what animals want.
 
Yeah Ryan, I hear you. I have done my part to protect wild life, that is why I have a bobcat(lynx rufus) as my house cat. The one thing about having a wild cat as a house cat is that if some jerk breaks in while your not home, they will break out really fast. NO ONE WOULD EXPECT TO DEAL WITH THE ASSAULT FROM MY CAT. See now your can live with wild life on a daily basis. Peace.
 
agree with you RyanH so sad nobody care about the same things......
 
These things are really pretty insignificant. You are dramatizing.
 
MattTheSkywalker said:
These things are really pretty insignificant. You are dramatizing.
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They may seem insignifant now, but what concerns me the most is the potential for them to become signifant. For example: you increase traffic into our wildlife, it will only continue to increase over time. Or, you build roads, you'll likely only build more roads. Once you begin invading untouched areas of wildlife, odds are that you'll want more and more.....

Where do we drawn the line in protecting the environment?
 
i agree that we should expand and build more stuff for humans but i feel bad for the animals. Its hard to choose a side in this arguement


~WizKid :kaioken:
 
it about time bush did away with these lame ass liberal rules and laws regarding BLM land:mad: ....how can someone feel sorry for a big ass bear that is shot because it rips the door off your car to get a package of food.....i say shoot the F*cking thing
 
Every creature that has ever lived on this planet has become extinct or will become extinct, including humans.

There are no more trilobites but that hasn't hurt the planet. We don't have dinosaurs wandering around do we? Yet life still goes on. Extinction is a natural process. It's called natural selection. The strongest species will survive the longest. Right now the strongest species are those that are abe to adapt to humans.
 
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Hey can we get a mod to edit ryan's posts. They're offending me a great deal.


There are enough tree-hugging, ass-munching, crunchy hippies on this board....last thing we need is one of them being a mod;)
 
But I like crying!

Naw, not crying. I just like playing the devil's advocate.

People here crack out the flamer real quick...and I hink it's hilarious to watch the trigger happy fools burst a vein or two over what amounts to a chat board.

Some people fly kites or take up gardening...I insight flame wars.
 
BeardedClam, let me understand your logic: Because animals don't care, let them die.

Your logic forgets that certain animals are also part of the food chain, and thus animals often play a role in the quality of our lives.....

On the environment, you forgets to consider the Ozone (which will certainly effect us by overheating).
 
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A Wise Indian chief one said" What is man without the beasts?If all the beasts were gone,men you die from a great loneliness of the spirit.For whatever happens to the beasts soon happens to man". The indian was Chief Seattle (1854) RADAR
 
Once the dinasaurs roamed the earth, the mightest creatures ever to be sure. They were at the top of the food chain. Then a rockin asteroid/comet whacked the earth and down came the dino. Next was man, he evolved into the greatest civilization ever, the Roman Empire, it too fell. Then man evolved into the colleciton called the United States, we too shall one day fall as will all mankind to make way for the next new species in the food chain.

It is called survival of the fittest and right now we are the fittest.
 
I bought some bison meat today. Damn, that shit is delicious!
I'm glad it's not extinct, 'cause it's one damn tasty mammal!
I would love to taste some bear meat, and maybe some of these endangered birds you mention.
Many, many species go extinct every year, even without the unmitigated evil that is man and progress. LEt's do what we can without fucking up our own standard of living and eat lots of lower animals cause they are so fucking delicious and nutritious! :chomp:
 
this is really stupid... where's the proof that ANY of this will EVEN harm the environment? This is all hear say and speculation... beleive half of what you read and less of what you hear. I dont think RyanH has a degree in environmentalism or has done any studies on what the impacts MAY be. This is moot... no matter how much logic or proof you can pour into this going either way your not going to change someones political point of views. If this were going the other way the he'd probably say "oh, Bush is blocking the way for expansion" or some shit. Either way all I see from this guy is :bawling: , and :bawling: , and more :bawling: ... every damn time.

But...

I like pizza...:wavey:
 
THE GOVERNMENT NEEDS TO PROTECT ME FROM MYSELF???

You have gone too far with that statement altogether! I hate to burst your bubble, but your almighty, omniscient government in comprised of people just like you and me. And they are no more infallable then you and me. Weak minded people may need the government to make make decisions for THEM, but don't attempt to put all of us in your category.

I WILL control my government, not the other way around. What an atrocity!!!

{Sorry, I was pissed, that was uncalled for}
 
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FrankRizzo said:
THE GOVERNMENT NEEDS TO PROTECT ME FROM MYSELF???
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ABSOLUTELY. Why do you think we have the Judicial Branch? Because often we make unconstitutional laws or unwise decisions.

Deregulation and leaving important matters to the private sector sometimes accomplishes nothing---in fact, it often makes matters worse. You can't leave the environment to the private sector, b/c the private sector's only goal is to make money......
 
Ducks unlimited & Trout unlimited are just a couple of PRIVATE organizations that buy up land to provide refuge for these animals. These are just two off the top of my head, there are tons more. Maybe if each average joe had more of his tax money back he would have sufficient funding to donate to these great organizations. Oh, but wait a minute... "liberals" don't want you to be able to decide what to do with your money. They want to take your money at gunpoint and dispense it as THEY see fit. I guess the goverment needs to tell me where to spend my money too, huh?
 
Come on Rizzo, do you really believe that the big polluters will clean up the environmental messes they create without the courts, Congress, and the EPA on their asses?

Of course not.
 
BoCephus--
Of course, b/c the EPA is under the dictates of Congress. The EPA still has limited powers. But, I'm still going to read these articles, thanks for the link.
 
RyanH said:


They may seem insignifant now, but what concerns me the most is the potential for them to become signifant. For example: you increase traffic into our wildlife, it will only continue to increase over time. Or, you build roads, you'll likely only build more roads. Once you begin invading untouched areas of wildlife, odds are that you'll want more and more.....

Where do we drawn the line in protecting the environment?
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Last article I read about the National Parks was that attendance was way down......

Do you really care or do you just try to stir up shit in here by over dramatizing everything you read that you might not agree with?
 
RyanH said:


ABSOLUTELY. Why do you think we have the Judicial Branch? Because often we make unconstitutional laws or unwise decisions.

Deregulation and leaving important matters to the private sector sometimes accomplishes nothing---in fact, it often makes matters worse. You can't leave the environment to the private sector, b/c the private sector's only goal is to make money......
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you got to be kidding....so you are saying that the government is not out for money.....that is all they are out for.....do you really think they care about the average citizen....if they did then they wouldnt be lying to the american people every chance they get....clinton was a prime example....everything out of his mouth was a constant lie.....the only freedom we have anymore is the private sector.....if that goes then we are no better than china and some other third world countries:rolleyes:
 
Rizzo made another point I wanted to make. RyanH, I bet you are not a member of Ducks Unlimited, Trout Unlimited, Pheasants Forever, Rocky Mountain Elk Foundation, or The Mule Deer foundation... I am.

I don't suppose you thought about the excise tax put on sporting goods like fishing and hunting that is used for wildlife. (or how the democrats under Clinton/Gore's reign of terror spent it all on non environment/wildlife issues, and did not have to answer to anyone for it).

How much have you contributed to this? Not a dime, that is what I thought. You are too busy spending your money on mesh muscle shirts that you wear to the gay bar than to spend a few cents on the environment.
 
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