HST is simple, and even obvious

[casualbb]

Casuall with all do respect no one knows what pros use yes they use high doses and yes test CAN but NOT always cause muscle growth even in untrained individuals..you should visit the anabolics section there are people on 750 g of test yet you can barel tell they work out..its more than steroids if your natural thats fine stay that way if you want but dont assume because someone is large that its only because of drugs and nothing else..

I beg to differ with your last statement Jay cutler changed from doing 20 sets per bodypart to 9-12 sets for the arnold look at his pics he looked very flat even smaller..yes he won but he did not look his best..look at pics from 2001 and compare them to 2004 especially his right side...lots of pros do use the help of others for their nutrition and training..

My point is that the stuff these guys are taking has a profound effect at doses that are 5% what they take. When you're at grams per week of steroids plus gh and insulin, any changes in your drug regimen will vastly overshadow the slight change from, say, 20 to 9 sets.

Oh, and I didn't say it was just drugs, it's drugs and diet. Those dudes on 750 who don't look like they work out just need to eat more.

 

[guldukat]

I beg to differ with your last statement Jay cutler changed from doing 20 sets per bodypart to 9-12 sets for the arnold look at his pics he looked very flat even smaller..yes he won but he did not look his best..look at pics from 2001 and compare them to 2004 especially his right side...lots of pros do use the help of others for their nutrition and training..

I think the main reason Cutler looked so small at this year's Arnold is that he severely over-dieted. I think he's still doing his 9-12 set/bodypart regimen, and is supposedly bigger than ever. (He might've gone back to higher volume, though. I don't keep good track of what any pro other than Ronnie and, recently, Dave Henry are doing .)