HST is simple, and even obvious

[wnt2bBeast]

Hey bro what kind of training splits are these guys on? I'm guessing 1x per week per muscle group?

I know Coleman used to do 2x per week...not sure if he is doing that anymore...haven't seen the new video

ronnie trains certain things 2X per week but with very different exercises..
as far as i know markus hits everything once per week as does Jay cutler al;though cutler tuned down his volume form 20 sets per bodypart to i think something like 9-12

 

[InTraining]

ronnie trains certain things 2X per week but with very different exercises..
as far as i know markus hits everything once per week as does Jay cutler al;though cutler tuned down his volume form 20 sets per bodypart to i think something like 9-12

Interesting...I always think it's funny how people say " They just use tons of juice they are able to grow on anything!" maybe to an extent...

Then we see the weights they are training with and the amount of food they are eating...yeh..i'm sure it's just juice

 

[psychedout]

pyshed out you crack me up..first off science mean shit..there is a stiatistic that proves something well i can show you ne that disproves it too..does that mean HST is shit, no..theres a ton of RESULTS behind WSB..box squatting alone has a ton of worth!!..there sre som many ways to skin a cat (grow) that one method cannot be superior for the masses..it can be superior for an individual..i wont put HST down because i have never gone through it..i do agree with you pysched i havent seen many way beyond 200 lbs that use hst im sure they're out there..

Science is good, however, not enough to make me a believer. Not yet at least.

 

[wnt2bBeast]

Interesting...I always think it's funny how people say " They just use tons of juice they are able to grow on anything!" maybe to an extent...

Then we see the weights they are training with and the amount of food they are eating...yeh..i'm sure it's just juice

its everything juice, food, crazy weights but these guys would definitely be huge if they stayed natty..theyre not hard gainers!!

 

[Debaser]

I didn't even read anything you posted.

I will share my limited HST experience with you.

It fucking sucks ass. Its the boringest fucking way of training ever, and i'm making great gains training everything every six days right now, so i'm not messing with a good thing.

God you could cut the ignorance of your posting with a fucking knife. I find it quite telling that you responded to a post without even READING ITS CONTENT. I believe he's talking about optimum growth, not optimal enjoyment of the training.

Perhaps if you did read it, you would have also seen the last paragraph:

"But the point is, the better a routine conforms to these known rules of muscle growth the more effective it will be. If one don't like the way HST does things, a creative lifter should be able to design his own routine using the principles listed that will both BE EFFECTIVE and BE FULFILLING."

 

[InTraining]

its everything juice, food, crazy weights but these guys would definitely be huge if they stayed natty..theyre not hard gainers!!

I saw some old pics of Ruhl...I don't know if they were taken before he started juicing but if not one of the best natty physiques I have ever seen

 

[Debaser]

Ohhh, and not to stir up controversy.

Take all the biggest guys on this board and in real life:

needsize, Bigdho, bigandy69, quadsweep, galaxy... Jay cutler, Dennis James, Markus Ruhl.....etc -- surely they would know that HST is superior and train that way.

I don't think one single pro or very big guy trains that way. Surely if HST was the best way to train, most would follow it, yet I cannot find one single example.

Oh and also -- did you ever stand to think that the guy who invented HST stands to gain a hell of a lot financially by publishing these supposed studies that support things he sells? I seriously question what is behind them.

I'll stick with whats tried and true for me. Hitting everything basically once per week. Three times per week is silly IMO.

Aside from the fact that the logic of your reasoning is nonexistant and even elementary-school level, there is actually an article on this very question. Or will you simply "not read it"?

I also might add that before the advent of steroids, where proper training was essential for growth, the pros trained full body, three times a week.

 

[wnt2bBeast]

I saw some old pics of Ruhl...I don't know if they were taken before he started juicing but if not one of the best natty physiques I have ever seen

yep he had some thick quads and humongo delts..

I would tend to think growth and enjoyment of a routine go hand in hand..i mean if you look in the mirror and your bigger to me that gives me enjoyment..or if you r setting PR's all the time thats enjoyment..at least to me anyway

 

[psychedout]

God you could cut the ignorance of your posting with a fucking knife. I find it quite telling that you responded to a post without even READING ITS CONTENT. I believe he's talking about optimum growth, not optimal enjoyment of the training.

Perhaps if you did read it, you would have also seen the last paragraph:

"But the point is, the better a routine conforms to these known rules of muscle growth the more effective it will be. If one don't like the way HST does things, a creative lifter should be able to design his own routine using the principles listed that will both BE EFFECTIVE and BE FULFILLING."

Got some roid rage bro?




Just teasing -- well, okay if it said that, its a good post then. Still doesn't change the fact I hate HST.

Ignorant? Maybe, but I don't care.

 

[wnt2bBeast]

I also might add that before the advent of steroids, where proper training was essential for growth, the pros trained full body, three times a week.

who cares those guys were tiny lol i love arnie but he really didnt have quads that compare to today..i think upper body side chest pose arnie rules