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PitPif

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did a little more research and came up with these doses for a cycle.

weeks 1-13 test enanthate at 375mg every week
weeks 1-10 tren enanthate at 250mg every week
weeks 7-13 winstrol tabs at 50mg every day
weeks 1-13 arimidex at .5mg everyday

and im also going to run clen 2 weeks on, 2 weeks off.

so i have a few question.

1. Do i still need to run nolvadex for pct? since the test is so low, i figured i wouldnt need it, and since tren doesnt aromatise. if yes, what dose, and for what weeks?

2. would i be able to use only .25mg of arimidex every day since the doses are low?

3. Is there anything else i need for this cycle?
 
zeplin7464 said:
everyone here has an immense love for using test in every cycle. why?

Because the other gear in your cycle will shut down your natural test & you need exogenious test to replace it. Also test is flat out works. Mass, strength, libido, aggression and it's sides are easily countered with the proper ancilliaries. They are not as bad as you think bro. No worse than most other AAS.

I've seen more people get gyno from Deca than any other drug & there's little that can be done about it.
 
so what im tryin to say is, do i need to run a pct if im running arimidex for the whole cycle? i also here letrozole is better. any input? i dont want to have gyno problems or anything, ill deal with the sides though from the tren. i just want to make sure my cycle is in check and what i do after my cycle(pct) is correct. thanks alot bros
 
this is not my first cycle. ive ran test only cycle for my first cycle. then test/dbol cycle, then winny/eq/test e cycle, and ive also ran a winny/t3 cyle. ive just never used pct or AI's before and i know i was basically wasting my money, but now ive had my diet in check for about 3 months, my cardio is done, my weight training is performed 5x a week. i just wanna know how to run a complete teste/tren e cycle, complete meaning with pct, and AI's
 
PitPif said:
did a little more research and came up with these doses for a cycle.

weeks 1-13 test enanthate at 375mg every week
weeks 1-10 tren enanthate at 250mg every week
weeks 7-13 winstrol tabs at 50mg every day
weeks 1-13 arimidex at .5mg everyday

and im also going to run clen 2 weeks on, 2 weeks off.

so i have a few question.

1. Do i still need to run nolvadex for pct? since the test is so low, i figured i wouldnt need it, and since tren doesnt aromatise. if yes, what dose, and for what weeks?

2. would i be able to use only .25mg of arimidex every day since the doses are low?

3. Is there anything else i need for this cycle?


drop the armidex unless you need it..with that low of test i highly doubt you would but keep it on hand incase.....if you want to take it anyway no matter what do .25 eod....anything above that is overkill
yes you still need to do a full pct doesnt matter what you use its going to effect your natural ability to produce test..
i would bump the test to 500...i have never used tren e so i cannot comment on that dose..but i would get some liquidost and keep it incase you develop gyno from the tren
 
PitPif said:
did a little more research and came up with these doses for a cycle.

weeks 1-13 test enanthate at 375mg every week
weeks 1-10 tren enanthate at 250mg every week
weeks 7-13 winstrol tabs at 50mg every day
weeks 1-13 arimidex at .5mg everyday

and im also going to run clen 2 weeks on, 2 weeks off.

so i have a few question.

Is this your first cycle? Are you prone to gyno?

Run the Winstrol for 6 weeks max. Chelosterol issues.

Don't run clen 2 week on then two week off. It doesn't work very well for most people that way.


1. Do i still need to run nolvadex for pct? since the test is so low, i figured i wouldnt need it, and since tren doesnt aromatise. if yes, what dose, and for what weeks?

Why would you run nolva with tren? That is asking for problems.


2. would i be able to use only .25mg of arimidex every day since the doses are low?

Are you gyno prone? You might not need it.

3. Is there anything else i need for this cycle?

Where is your PCT? Where is your cabergoline?

Personally, I think you need to do A LOT of research. You are missing most of the basics needed for a cycle like this. Nolva. with tren? No Caber? Where is the letro? What does the PCT look like because you WILL need one?

Where
 
PitPif said:
this is not my first cycle. ive ran test only cycle for my first cycle. then test/dbol cycle, then winny/eq/test e cycle, and ive also ran a winny/t3 cyle. ive just never used pct or AI's before and i know i was basically wasting my money, but now ive had my diet in check for about 3 months, my cardio is done, my weight training is performed 5x a week. i just wanna know how to run a complete teste/tren e cycle, complete meaning with pct, and AI's

Sorry to sound like a prick but i'm calling BS. If you ran all of this you would KNOW about letro, caber and so on from all of your previous cycles. Sorry bro, not buying it.
 
Chocolate_Thunder said:
Sorry to sound like a prick but i'm calling BS. If you ran all of this you would KNOW about letro, caber and so on from all of your previous cycles. Sorry bro, not buying it.

nah man, i understand where your coming at, but im not bullshitting, this would be my first cycle with tren. i just never EVER used any pct or anything, i just didnt take anything after my cycles. it's all good bro, ill keep asking around. thanks
 
PitPif said:
nah man, i understand where your coming at, but im not bullshitting, this would be my first cycle with tren. i just never EVER used any pct or anything, i just didnt take anything after my cycles. it's all good bro, ill keep asking around. thanks

Reaad through the PCT forum.

You'll need Letro and cabergoline while using tren.

How did you keep your gains after cycle with no pct?
 
Chocolate_Thunder said:
Reaad through the PCT forum.

You'll need Letro and cabergoline while using tren.

How did you keep your gains after cycle with no pct?


you ask how i kept my gains after without pct, the answer is, I DIDNT. i thought i would get away with it, i started eating less strict, then slowly gained some fat and loss alot of muscle. that why im tryin to do it the right way, with a complete pct cause i want to keep my gains.
 
No PCT, man you must have crashed hard. Why so many different AAS when you have never done any PCT after previous cycles? It seems extreme and a bit odd. Why didn't you figure out after your 1st post cycle crash that PCT is a good idea?

A well planned PCT after a test *only* cycle is what your should do.

Curious, just how many cycles with out any PCT have you done?
 
PitPif said:
did a little more research and came up with these doses for a cycle.

weeks 1-13 test enanthate at 375mg every week
weeks 1-10 tren enanthate at 250mg every week
weeks 7-13 winstrol tabs at 50mg every day
weeks 1-13 arimidex at .5mg everyday

and im also going to run clen 2 weeks on, 2 weeks off.

so i have a few question.

1. Do i still need to run nolvadex for pct? since the test is so low, i figured i wouldnt need it, and since tren doesnt aromatise. if yes, what dose, and for what weeks?

2. would i be able to use only .25mg of arimidex every day since the doses are low?

3. Is there anything else i need for this cycle?

ok you have to do some more research bro

1. run tren acetate for the first time with any tren
2. .5mg arimidex is way too much for 375mg of test e, you may not even need it, keep it on hand incase you need to control bloat or you get gyno symptoms
3. get HCG, it is the most important part of PCT, dont bother with nolvadex imo
 
I'm on 600mg of test and 500deca with no anti's. I feel great no gyno or anything. When I was taking dbol with this I was only taking 10mg aromasin every 7-10 days. So, at 375 to me at least would feel like HRT. Like said before, don't take anti's unless problems arise .25mg of adex ED is too much unless you are extremely sensitive to test, which can happen but is rare.
 
doublebicep said:
No PCT, man you must have crashed hard. Why so many different AAS when you have never done any PCT after previous cycles? It seems extreme and a bit odd. Why didn't you figure out after your 1st post cycle crash that PCT is a good idea?

A well planned PCT after a test *only* cycle is what your should do.

Curious, just how many cycles with out any PCT have you done?

Man, I lost most of my mass after my cycle and I ran HCG, Clomid, Post Cycle, and Unleashed for PCT. But honestly, my strength did not decrease and actually I think I look better now....so, I don't know...

Your Adex seems high. You might want to use only if you need it.
 
slamminshaun said:
Man, I lost most of my mass after my cycle and I ran HCG, Clomid, Post Cycle, and Unleashed for PCT. But honestly, my strength did not decrease and actually I think I look better now....so, I don't know...

Your Adex seems high. You might want to use only if you need it.

thats because most of your mass was water
 
alright, did a ton of research. i will not run the tren enanthate. if its my first time using, i should use acetate since it can cleear my system quicker if i run into harsh sides. plus i would need dostinex to be safe and it's really costly so it cant happen right now. i have decided on just a test/eq/winny cycle with clen 2 weeks on and off.

test 375mg every week for 13 weeks, many seem to think i should bmp up to 500 but i have honestly gained good mas in the past with that dose, so why bump it up if i dont need it right?

eq 600mg for weeks 1-2 then 300mg every week for weeks 3-13.

winny for the last 6 weeks at 50mg everyday

pct, clomid at 100mg everyday for weeks 15-16 then 50mg everyday for 17-18. thats 14 days after my test shot.

in the past i have gained about 20 pounds in a 12 weeks test e cycle at 375 ew. i stopped it, no pct, dropped 20 pounds and gained some fat. hope that answers all your questions about how i kept my gains cuz i didnt, i wanna do shit right this time. ive been up all night researching shit, and this is what ive come up with.
 
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