Hows my cycle?

[Superus]

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Goal
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To Gain the Most possible Muscle While losing fat

Shooting for 20+

Hoping for body fat to lower to Under 10%




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The Cycle
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1. Testosterone Enanthate 600MG Weeks 1-12 (First Week Front Load 800MG) 1/Shot a Week


2. Trenbolone Enanthate 500Mg Weeks 1-12 (First Week Front Load 800MG) 1/Shot a Week


3. Winstrol 75MG Weeks 9-14


*Test/Tren Will Be Mixed in the same syringe*



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Taking with Cycle
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||Liver/Prostate||
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1. "Brand Primaforce" Pro Liver Nac(1000Mg)/Milk Thistle(600Mg)/Pill Combined ==|1/Pill a Week|===

2. "Brand Primaforce" Pure ALA 300MG/Pill ==|Taking 1 Pill Everyday|==

3. "Brand Irwin Naturals" Prosta-Strong (Click Here For info) SS = 4Pills ==|Taking 4Pills Once a Week|==


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||Blood Pressure & Cholesterol||
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4. "Brand Syntrax" Guggulbolic Extreme ==|4 Pills Everyday|==

(Note: 300mg of the extract or synthetic E&Z guggul 3 times daily)

5. Hawthorne Berry


6. Fish Oil

(Note: 6g of fish oil daily is a typical dosage)



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Post Cycle Therapy
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1. HCG Weeks 1-4 (1/Shot Every Week 1000IU)

2. Clomid/Nolva Weeks 1-4 (Nolva 100mg ED//Clomid 100Mg ED)


Natural

1. Tribulus 3000Mg ED All 3 Weeks

2. R-ALA 2000Mg ED

3. Maca 1000Mg ED All 3 Weeks


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Diet
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I have about 40 Boxes of VPX MRP Michellean So i'm going to be putting them to use.*
I'm going to be eating 7-8 Meals a day Totaling 5000 Calories 600 Carbs 400-500 Protein.


*These boxes are going to last me for 2 months since i'm takin 8 packets a day Since this is a bulking cycel i'm going to eat realfood/packets.

I might go over the 5K Cal Count.

3+lbs of lean meats a day


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About me
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1. Height - 5'8
2. Weight - 175
3. BodyFat- 13% BF

 

[sweed]

ok, your goal.... is that 20+ muscle before or after pct. you'll loose some gains after pct, but i beleive u can get to 20+ lbs before pct.
is this your 1st (hopefully not, 2nd, 3rd + cycle?
1 shot per week? how are u going to get 600 mgs of test in one shot? beter to space it out to 2 shots per week for more even blood levels = less sides.

Hcg could be used midcycle for 7-10 days and also post cycle for 3-4 weeks. post cycle hcg should be shot m/w/f at 1000 iu's for each of those days... look at "Jenetics" stick in the PCT Forum*
Nolva way too high.. you can do 40 for the first week if u like, but 20 mgs ed afterwards is sufficient. and same goes for clomid.. maybe a week- 10 days at 100mgs but then drop to 50 mgs ed aftewards.
eat big, train big, get big!

 

[Superus]

Yes this is my first cycle

I want to go balls out on my first cycle

I took M1t Before gained like 20+ but most was water weight. I want solid rock hard muscle.

Which is why test/tren are good and later winny

 

[mookie]

That is alot for yout 1st cycle you ain't lying saying you wonna go balls out on your 1st cycle. I think you can gain alot with test e at 600mg a week for your 1st cycle maybe some dbol for the 1st 4 weeks.

 

[Superus]

With tren i'm trying to drop some bodyfat while gaining quality muscle which is why i added it..

Winny comes at the end to hold some gains while pcting.


I delt with the harder sides of M-1T i'm sure i can handle this cycle.

 

[Judo Tom]

WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYyy to much for a first cycle..

start with a test only cycle first so you can judge how that chem effects you and then add diff chems later down the road..

 

[mookie]

WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYyy to much for a first cycle..

start with a test only cycle first so you can judge how that chem effects you and then add diff chems later down the road..

I agree.

 

[ebear]

OMG, I wholeheartedly agree with the previous posters - 500mg of test a week is PLENTY for a first cycle!!!! Save the Tren and Winstrol for later, you'll be glad you did!

 

[Bruce]

you should not run tren for 12 weeks, and you should only run one compound on first cycle, the more gear you use the more you'll have to increase dosages to gain. start with less and big gains. wait till you need those big stacks.

 

[tommy39]

So your saying 600mg test and 500 of tren in the SAME syringe for ONE DAMN shot a week!!! Wow man. Id be splittin something up bro. WOW! Nuts.

 

[tommy39]

So your saying 600mg test and 500 of tren in the SAME syringe for ONE DAMN shot a week!!! Wow man. Id be splittin something up bro. WOW! Nuts.

Man that syringe will be the size of a banana! HAAA HAAA! Seriously though I would cut way back for this being your first.

 

[tatman3177]

you should not run tren for 12 weeks, and you should only run one compound on first cycle, the more gear you use the more you'll have to increase dosages to gain. start with less and big gains. wait till you need those big stacks.

deff. not tren at 12 wk. maybee 8. and as for body fat reduction stick with the test only first go round, just adjust your diet with more cardio and no probs. youll see. you dont need the tren just yet to get the body fat down. cardio and diet. besides diet determines your results on or off anyway.

 

[iHulk]

Holy Jebesus brothah!!!! IMO slow down! I'm no expert and am learning ED like everyone else but I have a few cycles under my belt and if you are looking for 20 lbs of rock hard muscle, theres no need to go to that extreme.

Start with a test only for 8 weeks and see how your body responds. Adding winny won't be a bad idea later in the cycel but I would suggest stay with one ASS first and feel it out for your first cycle.

You WILL definetely gain considering your tenacity & drive, diet and training.

TREN IMO is for expert users only. Harsh sides

 

[jacked clown]

No one will see this post...but this is one of the most organized and beautiful post i have like ever seen....

 

[borg4902]

At 5k plus cals and already 13% bf, your setting yourself up for dissapointment if you think you going to lean up bro.

 

[biggs001]

At 5k plus cals and already 13% bf, your setting yourself up for dissapointment if you think you going to lean up bro.

I also agree, you are doing way too much for your first cycle.
When you do your first cycle, you will grow like crazy on low doses because your receptor sites are 100% clean, you have never put these chemicals in your body.
You can get by lowering your doses of test down to 400-500mg a week, and I would never do tren in my first cycle, That stuff makes you mean as hell, and you need to learn what it feels like being on juice for the first time.
Mentally it makes you have an extremely short fuse until you can learn to control it.
If you do decide to do the tren you should only do 4-6 weeks on it.
that stuff is very toxic on your organs and should only be done in very short cycles.

 

[Rob_]

From my experiance I can reassure you that Tren is not going to be easy on you for your 1st cycle. You deffinately need to put at least 2 cycles under your belt before even considering it. IMO it is the most burtal of all AAS and is hard to deal with the sides (even though I love it). Listen to these guys, they know what they are talking about. I could see that doseage of test & winny, and your PCT looks rock solid except a little too much on Nolvadex (for me anyway). Either way you go, the best of luck to you and keep us posted on your gains.

 

[youngonewi]

WOWWY MAN. The test looks fine...MAYBE bump that up to preload to 1g. I wouldn't run the tren for so long. You only have 2 kidneys...nothing has been 'proven' but when I was on it my piss was Cinci Bengal Orange...so...I would say it does something down there. Top out at about 8 weeks on the tren and run it in the last 8.

I would do HCG in the middle FOR SURE....500 every other day for 10 days or so...Tren/Test will shut you down so fast you won't believe your balls.

Good luck to you! 20lbs is a hell of a goal man....how about 12-15 post pct?

 

[youngonewi]

WOWWY AGAIN..Just read this is your first cycle. Dude, man to man...TONE IT DOWN A LITTLE!!!!

Test will be just fine for you...leave out the tren till next time. YOU WILL GAIN YOUR 20 LBS with 600 test e...it WILL be hard to keep those kinds of gains...

Advice? Relax bro...take it easy....it would be good to have you around for another!