How to Use the Medicinal effect and Power of DECA: Its Tea Time with OMEGA

[zedhed]

There are a lot of people that would disagree strongly with this statement. BTW, I'm not sure where the stigma of deca causing high prolactin, or high progesterone came from but I got my bloods results in a very expensive blood test after my deca cycle and it actually showed my Prog and my Prolactin at the very bottom of the range yet my sex drive was slammed. People talk about deca doing this around here and repeating it like fuggin parrots but I have NEVER seen blood work to prove it.

I can't remember how many times I asked people why my sex drive was so repressed and EVERY time it's the same answer. "oh, your prolactin is high", "oh your progesterone is high b/c of the deca". Not true, I got the bloods to prove it bish. Now what?

I would really like to see a response to this if anybody has the knowledge. cgar is speaking about his own experinece here and he also states that he has yet to see any actual blood test to back up the statements that deca causes high proloacin or progesterone. The guy is just asking for the basis of why everybody says this. I dont see where he is saying that it is not true but that he would like proof of it.
I for one would like to know/see the same for my own education in and much thanks for all of this good info.
Also for guys not on TRT/HRT what if after a recignized good PCT protocall you cant get back to normal after using deca? I have seen this scenario a couple of times on here. But it is like at that point these guys are kinda left out there hangning.
Omega? Armani? Ozzie? Radar? Needto? anybody? somebody? thoughts guyz?? and again much thanks!!

 

[OMEGA]

The posts dont exist any more but Huckfinnalpex and 2thick and others back in the day showed tests to prove it.
thats why cabergoline got all popular when it came out.

everyone is different of course, but am sharing generally true for most peoples cases precautions that ought to be considered.

 

[OMEGA]

thanks man im on it

deca masked the dry joints completely, incredible.

i first noticed the dry joints the other day doing heavy seated rows

i was taking .5mg letro (1/5th tab) ED, i should have realized my E was too low, my sex drive has gone to crap the last couple of weeks

in the mean time ease back on intensity

was lifting heavy building supplies the other day and strained a joint do to accidental over AI use.

 

[weltweite]

I don't have much posts here, but was skimming and read this thread. It's a good read, but I noticed it said "boosts the immune system"

It actually lowers interferon gamma levels (essential in our first line of defense for our immunities), and can actually mask Tuberculosis during testing. A man almost died from TB because the doctor's couldn't figure out what was wrong due to the Deca.

(I don't have enough posts to post the link)

In case readers don't know what interferon is, here is a definition from wiki:

"Interferons (IFNs) are proteins made and released by lymphocytes in response to the presence of pathogens—such as viruses, bacteria, or parasites—or tumor cells. They allow communication between cells to trigger the protective defenses of the immune system that eradicate pathogens or tumors."

also Deca has another scary side effect...

Nandrolone kills the blood vessel lining at a concentration eleven times lower than that at which testosterone kills them. Researchers from the University of L’Aquila in Italy discovered this in laboratory tests on human cells.

Really increases the chance of a heart attack over time
(I don't have enough posts to post a link)


Also it stays in the system so much longer than other steroids and causes more suppression because of this.

I personally would not use deca again

 

[OMEGA]

thx bro for answering , i know we can always rely on u ,

any time

 

[ArmaniAK47]

I would really like to see a response to this if anybody has the knowledge. cgar is speaking about his own experinece here and he also states that he has yet to see any actual blood test to back up the statements that deca causes high proloacin or progesterone. The guy is just asking for the basis of why everybody says this. I dont see where he is saying that it is not true but that he would like proof of it.
I for one would like to know/see the same for my own education in and much thanks for all of this good info.
Also for guys not on TRT/HRT what if after a recignized good PCT protocall you cant get back to normal after using deca? I have seen this scenario a couple of times on here. But it is like at that point these guys are kinda left out there hangning.
Omega? Armani? Ozzie? Radar? Needto? anybody? somebody? thoughts guyz?? and again much thanks!!

I do not have the time tonight, but assure you I will return in the next few days with a full write up on these issues as well as immunity/cardiovascular issues that have been raised.

-ArmaniAK47

 

[tinytim-nor]

Trenbolone has been shown to NOT raise progesterone when tested specifically for this in livestock.

Binding to the receptor and activating it is NOT THE SAME! This by the way is why SERMs work: Serms bind to the estrogen-receptor strongly. In some parts it ACTS as an estrogen, in other parts it simply binds to the receptor, blocking estrogen and preventing estrogenic action, effectively deactivating it.

Trenbolone has been showed to have a relatively strong binding affinity to the progesterone receptor, but NO progestagenic action was noted in livestock! Well, actually a recent study showed trenbolone to have about 1/100th the potency of actual progesterone, so there is SOME action, but clearly insignificant.

Tren is widely used to make cattle grow into lean beef. Estrogen promotes fat gain. So does progesterone. Tren does not.

So, come up with one piece of evidence please, with actual trenbolone, not bullshit ug-tren which is often cut with deca or whatever else is cheaper at the moment, where tren promotes raised progesterone.

Testosterone has been shown to raise progesterone MORE than tren. Yes, really. Anyone using cabergoline to combat the prog-gyno from test? No?

The fact that dostinex or pramipexole helps with libido... that does not prove that progesterone or even prolactin is high in and of itself, dostinex skyrockets libido regardless in most people! Pramipexole comes with a warning that it can lead to hypersexuality.

As a test: Run a pure tren-only cycle.
Preferably made by finaplix-H so you know it's real, pure tren. Tren only, no testo, no other compounds.
Now try to get "prog-gyno".
Your libido will surely die, because you will produce NO test and will have no aromatization to estrogen after awhile.
Run a blood test.
Your estrogen will be very low.
Your progesterone will be low.

Tren is not a progestin.

 

[zedhed]

Thanks for the replies guyz, much appreciation!

 

[weltweite]

interesting however arent these cells repairable once discontinueing deca, meaning it only increases chances while on deca?

ur info on decas effects on the immune system are interesting

Yes of course cells regenerate etc. However it's still valid information, since Deca does tend to stay in the system a while, and for people who do long cycles or permanent blast and cruise, the information could be much more worthwhile.

And I know quite a few people who are on long long cycles. It takes its toll over time, and I would want people to have as much info as possible to make their educated choices.

I would post some links, but if you checked out Ergo-log and searched the term Deca, you would find some interesting findings on it.

Take care

 

[cgar1228]

I would really like to see a response to this if anybody has the knowledge. cgar is speaking about his own experinece here and he also states that he has yet to see any actual blood test to back up the statements that deca causes high proloacin or progesterone. The guy is just asking for the basis of why everybody says this. I dont see where he is saying that it is not true but that he would like proof of it.
I for one would like to know/see the same for my own education in and much thanks for all of this good info.
Also for guys not on TRT/HRT what if after a recignized good PCT protocall you cant get back to normal after using deca? I have seen this scenario a couple of times on here. But it is like at that point these guys are kinda left out there hangning.
Omega? Armani? Ozzie? Radar? Needto? anybody? somebody? thoughts guyz?? and again much thanks!!

Exactly!! I never said that it will not raise prog or prolactin levels I simply said that I haven't seen any information or blood tests to prove it.

I say that I got my bloods checked with no sign of high prol/prog and you got guys here calling that BRO-OLOGY!?!? Everyone on here says go get your bloods, go get your bloods and then when you show them results countering what they are trying to prove they call it "bro-ology"....