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karachi183
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Makavelli said:It always gets reposted as though it just came out...
Looks like it's that time of the year where old posts make a comeback. This one IMO has sticky credentials...
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Looks like it's that time of the year where old posts make a comeback. This one IMO has sticky credentials...
Slyder190
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I'm thinkin diuretics played their part as well in damaging his kidneys. and you think BBers never miss more than couple workouts. They travel a lot and do guest posings and signings and any bullshit their sponsors want. You think they don't miss workouts? Amybe not pre-contest really, but get real. Some guys don't even work out all year long.
MassiveG300
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We discussed this in some detail on MM in which TP used to post on.
http://www.chadnicholls.net/forums/showthread.php?t=28039
Steroids of course played a part but factors in high BP, excessive, bodyweight, dehydration, diuretics, ephedrine, etc etc high protein diets and intense exercise which increases proteinuria and the use of pain killers both OTC and recreational.
Add all that up and more and you have a recipe for killing kidneys these days in the sport. Don Long, TP, and Flex are the big names to fall.
Just recently a vet from the boards masswithclass died from complications of dialysis, his kidneys failed from a multitude of combinations above, although not a giant and high doser he was always on and on epehdrine and diuretics and competing.
none of this stuff will kill you or blow out your kidneys with sensible use and cycling but it's a combination of many factors above and beyond normal limits that will take an organ like the kidneys out over time.
ADVIL is extremely toxic to the kidneys if taken like candy like TP admitted too and add in all the other factors and boom.
Tom was quoted as taking 8-10 tablets 3-4 times a day at the upper end of dosing that's 8,000 mgs of advil a day. This was done to combat joint pain while precontest training so add in fat burners high BP and dehydration and excessive waste products from hard core prep training and AAS and GH and damn.....
http://www.drdry.com/drugbust.html
Not victimizing or demonizing or defending drugs or making excuses but just putting it out there for those to read.
http://www.chadnicholls.net/forums/showthread.php?t=28039
Steroids of course played a part but factors in high BP, excessive, bodyweight, dehydration, diuretics, ephedrine, etc etc high protein diets and intense exercise which increases proteinuria and the use of pain killers both OTC and recreational.
Add all that up and more and you have a recipe for killing kidneys these days in the sport. Don Long, TP, and Flex are the big names to fall.
Just recently a vet from the boards masswithclass died from complications of dialysis, his kidneys failed from a multitude of combinations above, although not a giant and high doser he was always on and on epehdrine and diuretics and competing.
none of this stuff will kill you or blow out your kidneys with sensible use and cycling but it's a combination of many factors above and beyond normal limits that will take an organ like the kidneys out over time.
ADVIL is extremely toxic to the kidneys if taken like candy like TP admitted too and add in all the other factors and boom.
Tom was quoted as taking 8-10 tablets 3-4 times a day at the upper end of dosing that's 8,000 mgs of advil a day. This was done to combat joint pain while precontest training so add in fat burners high BP and dehydration and excessive waste products from hard core prep training and AAS and GH and damn.....
http://www.drdry.com/drugbust.html
Not victimizing or demonizing or defending drugs or making excuses but just putting it out there for those to read.
karachi183
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i think this was the LP interview if i recall correctly!
marshabrady
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Christ just the "diet" alone would probably kill an ordinary person. I'm totally serious take out the drugs and supplements and feed someone a BB "diet" for a few years and that guy will probably keel over dead...
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satchboogie
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temporary diets, even in the extremes, cannot do that much damage to internal organs as the body is extremely adapt to such changes.
MassiveG300
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None of them ever will I find that funny reading past interviews with guys like Mike Quinn and Mike Christian openly admitting they snorted and shot (hard core street drugs) recreationals uppers and pain killers till it wrecked their lives but when they addressed the juice portion both were like...."Oh I only took baby doses for 8-10 weeks before a contest..nothing more." I saw Quinn guest pose in Pa in 1988 and he was 300 lbs and had to trun sideways through the doors.AAP said:
I think the perception with all of us is we don't want to associate steroids with our success even though it plays a significant role.
