How to cut with roids?

[serbyte]

I have never done a cycle but I was planning on doing one this winter. I got my shit but now I realize that I dont have enough time to do a bulk mainatinance and cut by spring break. My goal is to be at a lower bodyfat% in Mexico. Im going to do a natural bulk with creatine and am looking into using the roids for cutting.

I am having hard time finding info on how to cut, while keeping muscle mass. All i hear about is CKD, but i wanted to know is there any other options because I dont think that it would be good with AAS or even Clen.

What stuff do you guys reccomend for me to get cut and keep muscle. I would like to stay as mild as possible, possibly only clen even, because I have never done roids in my life, and I really dont want to get the side effects when all I am doing is cutting. I want to drop about 3-4%bf to about 7%.

 

[ArmaniMark]

If you have true serbian genetics like me you don't need roids

 

[anabolicmd]

If you have true serbian genetics like me you don't need roids

This is true, especially in Montenegro. Montenegrin blood is 50% testosterone and 50% dynamite.

 

[DJ_UFO]

LOL....my grand pa was croatian...and I just tell you guys..."you better don't fuck with me"

 

[RADAR]

first of all there is no cutting steroid,Diet is the factor that plays a huge role in this(you are what you eat).

RADAR

 

[SpeedFreak5]

If there's no cutting steriod then whats Winstrol?

 

[Dr. M]

If there's no cutting steriod then whats Winstrol?

An agent used to increase muscle hardness which, when combined with a proper diet and continued training, may lead to a more "ripped" look than if winstrol was not administered. If you've got 20% BF, all the muscle hardness in the world won't do you any good - and to get down from 20% bf you need a proper DIET and TRAINING. The winny just helps you prevent massive catabolism when ingesting below-maintenance calories and/or protein.

-M

 

[dali]

well stated Doc. I couldn't agree more

 

[serbyte]

I know that diet is all of it, but I have no clue what type of diet to do. All i hear advocated is CKD, but I dont really like it too much. Also, I think that I would not get good results doing CKD with AAS. Does anyone advise a good Macro ratio to get lean, while keeping mass.

 

[concordsize]

If you are 20% bf then you are not eating clean... I dont care what the story may be. I bet if you start eating clean then your bf will change fast without aas.

E

 

[slobberknocker]

Ideally you should already know how to bulk and cut before you ever even touch steroids.

 

[Riker29]

EatLessFoodabol

 

[variation]

actually... stanozolol increases metabolic rate and nitrogen retention, therefor more fat will be lost, more so than testosterone.

I won't even touch on trenbolone...

 

[NapoleanComplex]

learn how to diet and train (cardio)...then research fina

 

[jacshelb]

I've been using the diet where you have only carbs and protien one meal, fat and protien the next. I rotate, usually, every other meal. I'm really impressed with the results I've had. It's real simple (I just do it like I said above, I've really not read anything on it). And, I can actually stand to do it- I never could handle the atkins diet.

Jacob

 

[02gixxersix]

Technically all you have to do to cut is eat less than a maintenance level of calories. Just eat clean food and less of it. You could just lower your carbs and up your protein intake. Again at a low cal level. Also you could find your answera lot quicker on the diet board.

 

[humanoid]

I am also a firm believer that there is no magic cutting compound. My belief is that the only difference between bulking and cutting is diet and cardio. I'm currently on a very mild cutting cycle using test enanthate and anavar - and I will finish with winny in the last 6 weeks.

To give you some ideas on diet, I'm eating 600 calories below my maintenance level with very good success. My current intake is 2,700 calories per day consisting of 60 grams of fat (20%), 330 grams of protein (50%), and 200 grams of carbs (30%). Some will argue that my carbs are too high, but any less and I lack sufficient energy to get through the day and lift.

I'm also hitting the cardio very hard - 5 mornings per week before eating, and 5-6 nights per week after lifting. Each session is 45-60 minutes and moderate to high intensity.

 

[soflaguy]

Holy shitz humanoid!

Let me get this right:

am-cardio: 45mins
pm-workout: 30-45min (assuming here)
pm-cardio: 45mins

....on 2700 cals/day? That would definitely lean-up anyone.

 

[humanoid]

Holy shitz humanoid!

Let me get this right:

am-cardio: 45mins
pm-workout: 30-45min (assuming here)
pm-cardio: 45mins

....on 2700 cals/day? That would definitely lean-up anyone.

You got it almost right

am-cardio: 45-60 minutes (5 days per week)
pm-workout: 40-50 minutes (6 days per week)
pm-cardio: 45-60 minutes (5-6 days per week)

Today starts week 5 of this routine. I started my cycle 2 weeks ago. 14 more weeks to go!

 

[satchboogie]

You got it almost right

am-cardio: 45-60 minutes (5 days per week)
pm-workout: 40-50 minutes (6 days per week)
pm-cardio: 45-60 minutes (5-6 days per week)

Today starts week 5 of this routine. I started my cycle 2 weeks ago. 14 more weeks to go!

you'll be catabolic machine..

and i dont think all the gear in the world will help that out.

 

[Dial_tone]

eat low fat all day then add in some egg nog at night; you'll be lookin diesel in no time.

 

[Deleted member 33117]

I've been using the diet where you have only carbs and protien one meal, fat and protien the next. I rotate, usually, every other meal. I'm really impressed with the results I've had. It's real simple (I just do it like I said above, I've really not read anything on it). And, I can actually stand to do it- I never could handle the atkins diet.

Jacob

I'm not trying to be an ass, but that diet is horrible. You also haven't told us anything about what you eat. I'm assuming that since you are 20% bf that you are treating your mouth like a toilet, even if you are not eat fat or carbs at certain meals. Go to the diet forum and start reading. Until you understand the basic of bodybuilding nutrition, you are waisting time and money on steroids.

 

[Quadsweep]

I am also a firm believer that there is no magic cutting compound. My belief is that the only difference between bulking and cutting is diet and cardio. I'm currently on a very mild cutting cycle using test enanthate and anavar - and I will finish with winny in the last 6 weeks.

To give you some ideas on diet, I'm eating 600 calories below my maintenance level with very good success. My current intake is 2,700 calories per day consisting of 60 grams of fat (20%), 330 grams of protein (50%), and 200 grams of carbs (30%). Some will argue that my carbs are too high, but any less and I lack sufficient energy to get through the day and lift.

I'm also hitting the cardio very hard - 5 mornings per week before eating, and 5-6 nights per week after lifting. Each session is 45-60 minutes and moderate to high intensity.

I do no cardio, I have was on a hyper-caloric diet all the way to the show and I was 3.4%.....Its nutrient partitioning. I was down in the low 4% range and eating 7000 calories. There is no cutting steroid per sa. There are non-aromatizing AAS though. The speed metabolism slightly but for the most part they dispalce estrogen given g the muscle a fuller harder apperence. Hard dieting can lead to elevated estrogen, AAS fixes this problem.

Quad

 

[madmatt]

Good luck!