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How responsible is the UAW regarding Ford's situation?

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30,000 people are to be laid off by Ford in the near future as Ford fights for its existence. There are many factors in this, foremost of which is the diminution of market share that Ford has suffered at the hands of foreign competition, but there are others.

1) Design- the vehicles they are producing are clearly not what people want.

2) Reputation- they have a bad reputation in the core categories, with the exception of trucks and SUVs. This reputation is partially because they are still not made as well as foreign vehicles, partially because they made absolute garbage a long time ago and people remember that, and partially because rebates have cheapened their products as people now will not pay sticker because they expect the discount.

3) Scandals- the Firestone/Explorer thing really hurt them, as did the recall on their halo car, the GT, and the numerous recalls of the Focus, their popular compact. It goes toward reputation, but it really stands alone as indicators of both poor reputation and design.

However, they are also burdened with massive pay, healthcare, and pension problems. The average UAW worker makes well over $20 per hour with benefits, and what has Ford gotten for this outlay? Reduction in market share on a grand scale, shoddy construction, and burdensome obligations that threaten to drive Ford out of business.

Has the UAW basically negotiated Ford out of business? I think they may have. Ford, of course, is complicit in the deal because negotiations go both ways, but check this out: all UAW workers laid off this year get full base pay and benefits until September of next year. Those that don't continue to make up to 5 times the current minimum wage plus benefits, which is a deal that a lot of people would kill for, except that unions are a bitch to get into. It is estimated that Ford will have to pay $475 million this year to do the layoffs. And, of course, they still have to negotiate with the UAW, who will likely do what the airline unions did and fight tooth and nail for what many would consider to be outrageous salaries.

But, again, what does Ford have to show for some of the highest salaries in the business? Poor reputation, inferior workmanship, defects galore, generally poor ratings from the media, and years and years of moribund sales.

Does the UAW bear any responsibility for this situation? Note that the same argument can be made for GM as well. How much of it is corporate, and how much is the union?
 
how much in bonuses and stock options has ford (and GM) executives collected in the last few years?




Management ALWAYS takes care of their own FIRST.
 
rnch said:
how much in bonuses and stock options has ford (and GM) executives collected in the last few years?




Management ALWAYS takes care of their own FIRST.
* William Clay Ford, Jr., chairman and CEO, received no cash salary in
2004. In lieu of a cash salary equivalent to $1.5 million, he was awarded
103,882 shares of restricted common stock, tying his compensation to the long-term performance of the Company. He was awarded a 2004 bonus in the form of 841,008 shares of restricted common stock and restricted stock equivalents with a fair market value of approximately $10.5 million at the time of grant. In lieu of other long-term compensation, he also received a stock option grant covering 1,587,301 shares. These options have a strike price of $16.49 and vest over a three year period. Mr. Ford also exercised stock options covering 1,410,404 shares, realizing a value of $5.3 million, at the same time retaining the acquired shares. In addition, he received other compensation
totaling $266,000. For the second year, Mr. Ford committed a portion of his bonus of restricted stock equivalents to the William Clay Ford, Jr. Scholarship Program, providing tuition assistance for children of Ford employees, and a remaining portion to Detroit charities.

* Jim Padilla, president and chief operating officer, earned $966,667 in
salary and $2,034,910 in bonus, which consisted of $1.18 million in cash and a
grant of 69,000 shares of unrestricted common stock worth $854,910, as well as $314,131 in other compensation. He also was awarded options to purchase
100,000 shares of common stock in long-term compensation. In addition, for
his performance in 2004, Mr. Padilla was awarded a bonus in the form of
246,696 shares of restricted common stock and received 50,000 restricted stock equivalents as a long-term incentive grant, and for his promotion to Chief Operating Officer. Combined, these shares and stock equivalents have a fair market value of approximately $3,761,000 at the time of grant. Mr. Padilla
also received a Long Term Incentive Plan award of $173,460 which was paid in unrestricted common stock for the 2002-2004 performance period. He also exercised option grants covering 82,499 shares with a realized value of $686,000, at the same time retaining 29,849 of those shares.

* Greg Smith, executive vice president and president, The Americas, earned $756,667 in salary and $1,120,970 in bonus, which consisted of a cash award of $836,000 and a grant of 23,000 shares of unrestricted common stock worth $284,970, in addition to other compensation totaling $48,227. Mr. Smith also was awarded options to purchase 50,000 shares of common stock as a form of long-term compensation. He also received a Long Term Incentive Plan award of $105,315 which was paid in unrestricted common stock for the 2002-2004 performance period.


I still dont see why someone who sits on a chair and presses a button 8 hours a day is "obligated" to make more than a teacher.
 
thanks for the info, 75th.

as long as management is handsomely rewarded for sub-par performance; nothing will change.
 
how many of ford's proposed layoffs are from the management area?
 
rnch said:
how many of ford's proposed layoffs are from the management area?
In my eyes, laying off people who make $60,000/year before overtime + full benefits for pressing a button all day when you knew that technically you could find someone willing to do the job for $6.75/hour seems to make a little more sense.

Of course, not paying them $60,000/year would make even more sense.

Gotta love unions.
 
20$/h to build cars ? There you have the answer. One of the reason why GM closed the plant (the one who once built the Camaros) here. Guys were making as much money as the average accountant/entry level lawyer.
 
I'd love to see Ford go under. Really its a piece of shit company from top to bottom.
 
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