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How much will an anti-e help with BF%???

OKIE

OKIE

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I am not on any AS right now, but I have considered taking an anti-e to get rid of some unwanted water weight and to decrease my BF%. How much would an anti-e like a-dex or femara help? Thanks in advance.
 
BUT, can't it help with location of fat that is stored?

I have always heard that high estrogen levels lead to more storage of fat in the abdomen, breast, etc...
 
it can help, I think. For a while people were doing "cutting cycles" of arimidex/NYC/yohimburn to get rid of "estrogenic fat".
 
I don't believe an anti-e will do much by way of dropping bodyfat. It will help drop the excess water your holding beneath the skin even while off cycle. So in that regard it would appear as though you've lost more bodyfat when in essence it was excess water that was lost. However, with less estrogen from taking an anti-e there is less chance of estrogenic fat.....so in that regard an anti-e could play a great role in preventing bodyfat accumulation.
 
Agreed. Something like arimidex will not really decrease bodyfat, however it will help hard you up, and drop a bit of subquitanous water. Some research shows that arimidex slightly increases testosterone levels. This is a subject of much debate though.
 
Anti E's are great if you are in the high range bodyfat %

Also, they make your skin thinner, so it will make you look better and give you more definition.
 
anti-e's wont help with bodyfat...they may decrease new, estrogen related fat storage, but existing fat will stay. like mentioned above, it will make you "look" leaner, be decreasing sub-q water
 
Could one of you help me out here and explain how estrogen causes lipogenesis as opposed to regional deposition? Remember, EVEN IF excess estro causes lipogenesis(which remains to be proven) if you are not on exo test where would the excess estro come from?

jb
 
Thanks to all...I guess I should have made my question clearer. I realize that an anti-e will not actually decrease bf, but if I'm holding water, then my bf test usually shows a higher % of bf. My thinking was that I could take an anti-e which would reduce the water retention thus making my bf% seem lower when I'm tested with the calipers. I've taken a-dex before while on cyle. Anyone got a favorite for cutting while off cycle? Thanks again for the help...great responses.
 
jboldman said:
Could one of you help me out here and explain how estrogen causes lipogenesis as opposed to regional deposition? Remember, EVEN IF excess estro causes lipogenesis(which remains to be proven) if you are not on exo test where would the excess estro come from?

jb
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I've read that excessive fat can raise estrogen levels. That's why you see so many fat guys with gyno (You know, Fat guys with B cups.)
 
I'm off cycle and running 2.5mg of femara EOD because my nips hurt without it still. Anyway, this combined with an alteration in my diet, I'm experiencing some nice fat loss. I store fat like hell on my chest and love handles, but they've shrunk considerably. This usually does not happen for me until I have much lower bf.
 
Thanks DZP,

So would the consensus be for taking a-dex or femara while off cycle? What do you guys feel the drawbacks are to both?
 
OKIE said:
Thanks to all...I guess I should have made my question clearer. I realize that an anti-e will not actually decrease bf, but if I'm holding water, then my bf test usually shows a higher % of bf. My thinking was that I could take an anti-e which would reduce the water retention thus making my bf% seem lower when I'm tested with the calipers. I've taken a-dex before while on cyle. Anyone got a favorite for cutting while off cycle? Thanks again for the help...great responses.
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then whoever is measuring your bodyfat is doing it wrong if water is accounting for BF.
 
stonecold54 said:
then whoever is measuring your bodyfat is doing it wrong if water is accounting for BF.
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They aren't doing it wrong. It is more difficult to get an accurate measurement on someone who is retaining more water than someone who isn't.
 
I have noticed they(anti aromatase anyways) help a good bit, but I think it is a nasty way to go about losing fat. I am beginning to see more and more how anti-e's are taken too lightly around the bb'ding world. These are powerful drugs with terrible long term side effects. Calcium depletion is a terrible thing especialy for a bodybuilder. Not to mention further damage to lipid profile and more hair loss. Nolva will not deplete calcium, but I don't know how effective at fat burning it is.Stick with yohimbine, var, ALA, green tea, CKD or low carb diet, cardio.
PG
 
pharmguy said:
I have noticed they(anti aromatase anyways) help a good bit, but I think it is a nasty way to go about losing fat. I am beginning to see more and more how anti-e's are taken too lightly around the bb'ding world. These are powerful drugs with terrible long term side effects. Calcium depletion is a terrible thing especialy for a bodybuilder. Not to mention further damage to lipid profile and more hair loss. Nolva will not deplete calcium, but I don't know how effective at fat burning it is.Stick with yohimbine, var, ALA, green tea, CKD or low carb diet, cardio.
PG
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Exactly what I was going to say -- except the cardio part.:)

Okay, how about high rep superset type training? Best fat burner around.
 
I should make it clear that I wouldn't be on the letrozole if I wasn't experiencing gyno symptoms. I have no idea why this is happening so long after the cycle, but I'm not taking chances. I stopped it for a few days and my nipples hurt.

I did just start using calcium d-glucarate at 1g a day for estrogen management while off cycle, so I hope it works enough that I can lay off the femara.
 
Ive read a few posts on other boards where people have taken Nolv and A-Dex and lost substantial fat in estro areas. Don't knock it till you try it.
 
Interesting topic. so does anyone actually take anti-e's off-cycle?
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I'm using anastrazole EOD 1/4 tab for about a month now.

I notice libido's up, but ejaculate is down. Interesting side effect. Definitely a bit harder, but no real reduction in BF, then again I only started hitting the gym hard this week for a long time...
 
BigAndy69 said:


I've read that excessive fat can raise estrogen levels. That's why you see so many fat guys with gyno (You know, Fat guys with B cups.)
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That's true. The more and bigger fat cells you have the more estrogen produced. Fat cells are like estrogen factories since alot of the aromatization process occurs there. Having said that taking anti-e's will most definately help you to shed bodyfat. They will help to keep estrogen related side effects lower like increased potential for fat accumulation and well as making it harder overall to lose fat weight already had. Taking an anti-e will help to keep natural test levels and dht at a higher level since less in converted into estrogen. That tips the scale if favor of a higher androgenic enviroment with less estrogen which means better fat burning. :)
 
Mike P.T. said:


That's true. The more and bigger fat cells you have the more estrogen produced. Fat cells are like estrogen factories since alot of the aromatization process occurs there. Having said that taking anti-e's will most definately help you to shed bodyfat. They will help to keep estrogen related side effects lower like increased potential for fat accumulation and well as making it harder overall to lose fat weight already had. Taking an anti-e will help to keep natural test levels and dht at a higher level since less in converted into estrogen. That tips the scale if favor of a higher androgenic enviroment with less estrogen which means better fat burning. :)
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Good post Mike.
 
pharmguy said:
I have noticed they(anti aromatase anyways) help a good bit, but I think it is a nasty way to go about losing fat. I am beginning to see more and more how anti-e's are taken too lightly around the bb'ding world. These are powerful drugs with terrible long term side effects. Calcium depletion is a terrible thing especialy for a bodybuilder. Not to mention further damage to lipid profile and more hair loss. Nolva will not deplete calcium, but I don't know how effective at fat burning it is.Stick with yohimbine, var, ALA, green tea, CKD or low carb diet, cardio.
PG
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Drugs are taken too lightly around here. Use only what you need, and for what you can not do naturally.
 
genarr3 said:

Drugs are taken too lightly around here. Use only what you need, and for what you can not do naturally.
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Taking this into consideration, 90% of people here should stop using AAS (myself included). I guess that's partially why I'm taking a long time off from using, but very few people really exhaust all their natural means to make gains before using AAS. Many people are completely aware that they're taking a shortcut, but that's because they're all about getting their goal in the shortest time possible. I can't blame them.
 
DeepZenPill said:


Taking this into consideration, 90% of people here should stop using AAS (myself included). I guess that's partially why I'm taking a long time off from using, but very few people really exhaust all their natural means to make gains before using AAS. Many people are completely aware that they're taking a shortcut, but that's because they're all about getting their goal in the shortest time possible. I can't blame them.
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Very true...it is the American way.
 
Can someone please tell me a little about Femara? I've been searching around and can't seem to find out what its used for.(I know its an anti e) What would someone take it for? What would be the benifits? This doesn't seem like a popular gear. Or at least can someone point me in the right direction.
 
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