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How much longer will we have Christmas in America?

ttlpkg said:



1) See Luke 19:11-27. Capitalism is encouraged.


Feudalism is the only economic system that the church ever embraced.

2) The bible commented and dealt with the reality that was slavery. Christians led the fight to end slavery.
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SOME christians did, SOME did not. Religion was never a deciding factor in the slavery debate.

As far as slavery mentioned in the bible - it is not analogous to American black slavery. Slavery at that time was indentured servitude, and when the servant was freed, he was given a plot of land and livestock. Not the American model.




I like the teachings of Christianity. The church has been another story.
 
For one example of how modern religion can’t be trusted:

Every modern Christian is taught that Jesus was born from the virgin Mary, meaning she never had sex, and most people take that as proof that he was “supernatural” in some way. However, original Hebrew writings refer to her as the virgo Mary, which in Hebrew basically means an unwed mother. Somewhere over the centuries “virgo Mary” got translated into “virgin Mary”, hence the supernatural aspect to what was originally a rather normal birth. This may have been done on purpose by the Romans to make him a more powerful and more fearful figure, it is well known they embellished certain parts of the scriptures. After all, what good is religion without fear?

The truth is that Jesus was a bastard child (born out of wedlock).

The modern Bible is full of passages like this that have lost their true meaning over the centuries. Not to mention the fact that anyone who studies the true origins of the Bible will find themselves questioning the validity of the Christian religion as a whole. Unfortunately, most people just accept it as Word and Law rather than research it for themselves.


Oh, and merry Christmas everyone! :)
 
Forge said:
For one example of how modern religion can’t be trusted:

Every modern Christian is taught that Jesus was born from the virgin Mary, meaning she never had sex, and most people take that as proof that he was “supernatural” in some way. However, original Hebrew writings refer to her as the virgo Mary, which in Hebrew basically means an unwed mother. Somewhere over the centuries “virgo Mary” got translated into “virgin Mary”, hence the supernatural aspect to what was originally a rather normal birth. This may have been done on purpose by the Romans to make him a more powerful and more fearful figure, it is well known they embellished certain parts of the scriptures. After all, what good is religion without fear?

The truth is that Jesus was a bastard child (born out of wedlock).

The modern Bible is full of passages like this that have lost their true meaning over the centuries. Not to mention the fact that anyone who studies the true origins of the Bible will find themselves questioning the validity of the Christian religion as a whole. Unfortunately, most people just accept it as Word and Law rather than research it for themselves.


Oh, and merry Christmas everyone! :)

LOL at "virgo mary". Do I dare even ask what website you got that from?


Start nonsense reduction:


The idea of virgin birth came fom a Persian religion called Mithraism. Mithra was a deity who was born of a virgin. Mithraism was very popular with the roman army, and in order to make the official transition to Christianity easier, Constantine adopted parts of pagan religions.

BTW, this is why we have Christmas in December; it replaced the Roman Saturnalia. Jesus was born in the Spring.

If you want to "research it yourself" then you should better understand Judaism, as well as pagan religions of the time.


End nonsense reduction



I don't care for Christianity either. But let's stick to reality and historical facts.
 
MattTheSkywalker said:


You are just too stupid and uninformed to get the point I was making - I know more about the historical Jesus than you ever could hope to.

I am not a Christian - I don't believe in the divinty of Jesus. In fact, no one believed it until 325 AD at the Council of Nicaea.

The Roman emperor Constantine invented Christinaty by cobbling together parts of other religions. Have someone show you how to use the Internet and do a search of "Mithraism", for starters.

Scholars believe that Jesus married Mary Magdalene and had several children.

You are the dumbest guy on here by factor of 100.


lmao

when I originaly stated about the birth of capitalism being christmas instread of jesus was a joke.... of course i know that the historical jesus was not born dec. 25

and because of your attack on that post... i assumed you were a religious mess like my new pal (ttlpkg)

i didnt think you would underestimate my knowledge so much as to think that i wouldnt know something so common.

and as far as you calling me stupid?
i guess that makes you feel smart or better in some way..
(whatever works:rolleyes: )



OK.

you have NO clue of my minds capacity... you have grouped me in with a scoial group, and the satistics of that group.

your a pompus ass who thinks (he knows it all, and everyone needs to learn something from him)....

ill always be a student of this world (this view of yours is your first weakness)


oh and..

MattTheSkywalker said:


Scholars believe that Jesus married Mary Magdalene and had several children.

yes iv read all about it.....

it is also believed that the "knights templar" are the decendants of this bloodline.

(and how many members on this forum do you "FACTOR" even know the name mary magdelon?)

i truly think your so confused about how an "uneducated nigger" could know sooo much about what you yap,and yap about daily.

you just raddle off momerized dates. it not impressive


your ego and your assumption of people are your 2nd weakness.
you seem to have very little perception of anything outside a text book or a newspaper.

they never see me comming


BO-DEN
 
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ttlpkg said:


I can't learn from you because you are unlearned yourself. Go to college and read some more. Do some real analysis instead of spouting what you've heard from other liberals.



liberal?

:rolleyes:



p.s.

what dose Oj Simpsons penis taste like?
i just thaught youd know ....
 
rnch said:
if the republicans and curling have it their way; next december 25th we will all be working, for straight time, (NO overtime bucks!), hunched around our one lump of coal for warmth!!

Dickens was SO ahead of his time!!!

Why did you put me in here? I think Christmas is a great day for celebrating Christ's birth. I do however think it should be done with less presents and more quality time with your family. How about an apology mch?
 
This thread is awesome.

BO-DEN, if you want to be taken seriously you're gonna have to learn how to spell.
 
OF course Matt doesn't believe Christ was the Son of God heck his fellow Jews killed him. I have nothing against Jews by the way. I do believe they are God's chosen people but in the Bible God said he blinded them from seeing the truth until the end. So matt is just blinded by God.
 
curling said:
OF course Matt doesn't believe Christ was the Son of God heck his fellow Jews killed him. I have nothing against Jews by the way. I do believe they are God's chosen people but in the Bible God said he blinded them from seeing the truth until the end. So matt is just blinded by God.

I'm not Jewish, assclown.

Jews didn't kill Jesus, Romans did. Hence the mocking "JNRJ" above the cross: this is the King of the Jews. Rome was mocking a Jew who asserted that Jews should tell Rome to piss off.

No one believed Jesus was the son of God until Constantine told them to.
 
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