maybe if there was a pro on here we would know, otherwise ALL speculation. i KNOW a pro who never made it big and only did 1 pro show, the NOC in like 95 or something. got 17th. anyway he was a smaller guy, only 5'6, competed at around 200. looked awesome but couldn't hang.the amount of sauce he did to become pro and for the NOC show was nuts. i remember back then, when doses were smaller, he was doing over 250 test ED and sometimes 150 drol a day, while bulking, among other shit. when he was getting ready for the NOC,he sold his mustang for 5000 and injected it ALL in his ass. sad indeed. my buddy who swears he's on his way to becoming pro....which i dont believe he will, does up to 2.5g test a week when bulking w up to 1000 eq/week. when he was cutting for last show, he did 100 prop/day, 100 primo/day, 100masteron/day, 250 win/day...yes 250. plus like 8iu HGH, IGF, maybe MGF, dont know. also halos, T3, clen. this is what i KNOW. who knows what else. so imagine what the jacked pros take. sure some, like maybe dexter or darrem use less, but the real beasts like ruhl, coleman, etc, i use tons...is it worth it? i don't believe so.