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How much juice do you think pros use?

i like the look of the old schoolers too bro. i always wonder what bodybuilders will look like 50-100 yrs from now, compared to 30 yrs ago
 
P4D2A022 said:
i like the look of the old schoolers too bro. i always wonder what bodybuilders will look like 50-100 yrs from now, compared to 30 yrs ago
something like this.
 
The_Alcatraz said:
Arnold did not take moderate amounts of gear. Arnold juiced like a freak.
Arnold's use was alot back in the day ,But compared to todays standards his use was a drop in the bucket.

I will say this much ,you ether have it or you dont.
No amount of steroids is going to enalrge your clavical and give you wider shoulders.Steroids are not going to change your muscle instertions and make you look like flex wheeler.

When you see guys like ronnie and jay even when they were 220lbs back in the early 90's jay had huge wide shoulders, ronnie had huge round peaked biceps.
Those are genetic traits that steroids will not create.
How ever when a genetic freak and steroids are combined the result is one in a million.

I doubt that steroids are as big as one might think in the arena when it comes to the ones with " elite genetics"
jay has been throwing down for over 15 years So its safe to say he has prob 20 steroid cycles under his belt.
How big and huge were the cycles?
I doubt they were huge at all . But more of moderate doses over a the years has built him up very well.Now rember jay has been competing in the mr o for over 10 years and finaly got it last year.
For example here is a weeks worth of shopping for jay cutler.
eating like that day in and day out for the last 10 years .
http://www.dailymotion.com/relevanc.../x15q1q_jay-cutler-at-the-grocery-store_sport


Now It's obvious the guys that are small one year then blow up in a year or two come out of now where to turn pro are prob juiced up pretty good.
It's noticable also in their faces,skin and stomachs.

But give cerdit where its do.
Jay and ronnie were in the game a long time slowley adding muscle year after year.So I really doubt that they are that juiced
More of just the product of 15+ plus years of moderate steroid use combined with a perfect diet
 
I think many bodybuilders and people over dose themselves. Your body can only process 10 grams of creatine in a day.....how is it going to process 10 grams of Test. I really believe a lot of steroids is wasted by people using too high of dosages. But thats my opinion.
 
chazk said:
Arnold's use was alot back in the day ,But compared to todays standards his use was a drop in the bucket.

I will say this much ,you ether have it or you dont.
No amount of steroids is going to enalrge your clavical and give you wider shoulders.Steroids are not going to change your muscle instertions and make you look like flex wheeler.

When you see guys like ronnie and jay even when they were 220lbs back in the early 90's jay had huge wide shoulders, ronnie had huge round peaked biceps.
Those are genetic traits that steroids will not create.
How ever when a genetic freak and steroids are combined the result is one in a million.

I doubt that steroids are as big as one might think in the arena when it comes to the ones with " elite genetics"
jay has been throwing down for over 15 years So its safe to say he has prob 20 steroid cycles under his belt.
How big and huge were the cycles?
I doubt they were huge at all . But more of moderate doses over a the years has built him up very well.Now rember jay has been competing in the mr o for over 10 years and finaly got it last year.
For example here is a weeks worth of shopping for jay cutler.
eating like that day in and day out for the last 10 years .
http://www.dailymotion.com/relevanc.../x15q1q_jay-cutler-at-the-grocery-store_sport


Now It's obvious the guys that are small one year then blow up in a year or two come out of now where to turn pro are prob juiced up pretty good.
It's noticable also in their faces,skin and stomachs.

But give cerdit where its do.
Jay and ronnie were in the game a long time slowley adding muscle year after year.So I really doubt that they are that juiced
More of just the product of 15+ plus years of moderate steroid use combined with a perfect diet

good post bro, there should be more vids like that for newbies to watch so they know its not all gear, you gota eat and eat and eat some more. k
 
Nelson hit the nail on the head. I love when people post how pro's take grams and grams along with boatloads of igf1 and gh. There are some who take it to the extreme to make up for genetic 'bad luck' but most of these guys respond very well to small amounts and just have the genetics overall for it.

Look on the boards for example, before the take down of ugl, you saw people running crazy amounts and most look/looked like shit. Those same people then think because 3 grams of test isn't doing it for them, then pro's/stars/other athletes, etc must be taking an entire pharmacy. Usually not the case. Those sad few have mom and dad to blame if anyone. Genetics truly is everything in bodybuilding.
 
Also if you have the genetics to take the juice. I have seen guys that don't get much from the juice without a lot of sideeffects. Then I have a friend that never experiences any sides and just blows up on minimal dosages.
 
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