how much HGH to take & for how long?

[Ulter]

Dont know where you got that information from, but 2ius yields fantastic results. I use 2ius/day with a 6on/1off cycle. I love the results it adds. My boy uses 2iu/day witha 5on/2off cycle and he is at 4% bodyfat! You must have some poo poo gh if your using 4ius+/day and not getting any growth.. I see an HRT doctor, and he explained everything...Its about keeping your blood level for optimum results. Too much is harmful in long term use..

I've used Serostim and I get it at Walgreen's so I'm pretty sure it's good.
Where do I get the information? From 20 years of experience and talking to 2 or 3 thousand people using it every year. Last year I answered 16,000 steroids related questions and have so much more practical experience than your HRT doc that it's ridiculous. Even his dosing schedule is wrong.
He told you "it's about keeping your blood levels optimum" did he? Well let him know the rGH doesn't last long enough to develop constant blood levels.

Serostim is dosed as 18iu/day in their kit. So the average GH deficient AIDS person uses EIGHTEEN iu/day. Studies on children with gh deficiencies are done with 6iu/day. In most medical research they use .125 to .250iu/kg per week to replace deficient gh. If you weigh 90kg that's 1.6iu/day to 3.2iu/day. So your 2iu/day would fall right inbetween. So you're taking the amount researchers give someone in order to replace what their body doesn't make by itself.

GH should be used when you get up in the morning.

 

[ItalianMuscle27]

So my doctor with 15yrs+ experience in the field of HRT therapy, & who also works exclusively with pfizer doing research, has no idea what he is talking about eh? Keeping the blood level, is only one area..I dont have the time nor the energy to type all the information out. If you have the the time read the New Engalnd Journal of Medicine on the topic.

www.nejm.org

Or Read JAMA, Nov.13, 2002 vol.288, No.18

I am using the Saizen, more potent than the Serostim. I have used it before, and didnt get nearly the same results as I am with the Saizen! I have never claimed to be an expert, I am just quoting my doctor. If you have 20 years experience and answered 16000+ questions, you must be an expert! Congratulations..

 

[Ulter]

Yes, that's right I am an expert. Now you have a handle on it.

Your endo's background on HRT gives him virtually no experience with a body builder's use of rGH. 2iu/day is great if your old and trying to stay young or if you're deficient. I am sure your doc would prescribe 100mg/test per week too. But that's not really what we're after here is it?

 

[proken]

Timing is key... rhgh is very short lived in the blood stream. I have had excellent results taking 8iu's a day split 4x4. However, I have recently tried "timing" and am getting better results from just two iu's per day. I take the first iu right after working out, the second iu after the largest protien/nutrient meal of the day. It's sort of like being thirsty. You drink water when your body tells you too and I think if the body had a mechanism to tell you when to injest rhgh it would be most needed and felt after a hard work out and after a good protien drink... Just food for thought. Just as a note, when I'm on prop, or do orals, I use the same line of thinking.

 

[ItalianMuscle27]

Expert? Arent we all an expert. Everyone thinks they know everything.. Kinda funny you should mention the fact that my doctor has no experience with bodybuilders. He used to be a bb, but doesnt compete anymore. A few of his clients are also professional body builders. I wish I could mention their names, but I dont even know who they are.. I would take the advice from a doctor, before i would take advice from an invisible face..

 

[will b huge]

Expert? Arent we all an expert. Everyone thinks they know everything.. Kinda funny you should mention the fact that my doctor has no experience with bodybuilders. He used to be a bb, but doesnt compete anymore. A few of his clients are also professional body builders. I wish I could mention their names, but I dont even know who they are.. I would take the advice from a doctor, before i would take advice from an invisible face..

Bro, you should probably shut up while your ahead.....

Also, if your taking advice from your doctor before taking anything from invisible faces (like you state in your thread above)-----THEN WHAT ARE YOU DOING ON HERE???????? (just trying to harass somebody)


CMON NOW BRO---GET YOUR HEAD OUT OF YOUR ASS and Lets all get along---OK????

 

[ed2005]

Cheez let's all lighten up here...No one is throwing stones, just offering opinions. People have different views, that's why we have message boards...Different things work for different people...Hell, life is all about being different......
A few points:
I've had great results on 2ius a day but then I know others who haven't on 10ius....
I thought Saizen was the absolute ticket, the best, but unfortunately over priced and hard to get on the black market, so Jintropin is my poison.
Lil Tex DO NOT use your GH at night! At 29 your own pituitary will be releasing normal amounts of natty GH and you'll be shutting that down. I also have to agree that unless you plan on running for 6 months you are losing out on optimising your investment. You may well see some initial results within the first week but others can take 3 months to strike it lucky..You really should use growth for a few months and then kick in your AAS cycle..
Cheers
Ed

 

[Outtlaw]

Dont know where you got that information from, but 2ius yields fantastic results. I use 2ius/day with a 6on/1off cycle. I love the results it adds. My boy uses 2iu/day witha 5on/2off cycle and he is at 4% bodyfat! You must have some poo poo gh if your using 4ius+/day and not getting any growth.. I see an HRT doctor, and he explained everything...Its about keeping your blood level for optimum results. Too much is harmful in long term use..

You're not gonna get massive by doing 2iu/day of gh. But then there's always the idiot that says they blew up taking 100mg/wk of test.

 

[Outtlaw]

Serostim is dosed as 18iu/day in their kit. So the average GH deficient AIDS person uses EIGHTEEN iu/day. Studies on children with gh deficiencies are done with 6iu/day. In most medical research they use .125 to .250iu/kg per week to replace deficient gh. If you weigh 90kg that's 1.6iu/day to 3.2iu/day. So your 2iu/day would fall right inbetween. So you're taking the amount researchers give someone in order to replace what their body doesn't make by itself.

GH should be used when you get up in the morning.

I wouldnt be so quick to say that HIV/AIDS patients have a gh deficiency, as from what I've read this has not been proven. There is the idea that they can become somewhat resistant, but I wouldnt classify AIDS patients in the same group as gh deficient kids.

 

[mt]

I, too, like using HGH but have to ration it because of the cost. It has been proven that high intensity exercise produces HGH so I keep that in mind when using HGH. About 3 times per week I do a real ball busting high intensity workout and just before that I take a shot of l-tyrosine/alcar/ornithine since that "supposely" is suppose to stimulate HGH production. On the days I don't train this way (4 days/wk) are the times I supplement with HGH (2ius). That way a 100 IU kit will last me just over 3 months. I know it's not ideal and I'd love to take 4ius or even 2ius per day or even 5 days on 2 days off but for a lot of us in real life we have to make due. Even though it's not ideal it's still better than nothing and I believe I'm getting far more HGH going through my body than the average person my age (just over 40 years). I find that in life you rarely get the ideal but have to settle for the best possible situation given the current circumstances.