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How Much Eca Do You Take-a?
- Thread starter PANTS
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3x a day? If I were to do that much I might as well just get an 8 ball of coke.
fiatconspiracy
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I think the max i take is 6 a day each 20mg E 200mg C,,,,it takes some getting used to....
hardasnails73
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TRy this:
This was just intoduced to me by a friend of mine who is not a your fly by night gym rat but one of the top rated researcher in the field of suplementation today
if you do cardio in the morning
set alarm clock one hour before you do cardio session, pop this and goto back to bed for another hour
take
25 mgs ephederine
200 mgs caffine
half an aspirin if you are over 15-20% body fat other wise you are going to burn burn a hole in your stomach possible from too much aspirin
another 4-6 hours later take half the dosages
then another 2 hour take half the dosage
wait 2-3 hours and take the full dosage before training
this is what i do and it works like a charm
5 am full dosage go back to sleep
6pm 30 minutes cardio
11 am half dosage
2 pm half dosage
5 pm full dosage
6 pm train
in bed 11 pm no problem
here is the reason why
Your body metabolsim is going to be reved up from morinnig cardio alone add the full dosage on top and your a fat burning machine, by lower the dosages you will keep yor body thermogenic longer and cut down on the shakes and other side effects. do this for 5-6 weeks and you will mamimize fat buriing while minimizing side effect. It ashame too many people in here have the more is better mentality and that is where people run into problems. So just remember when next gym rat gives you advice ask them to explain to you why? Half of them with be like DUH ! LOL
moderation is the key. Learn to maximizre results with little ot no minimal side effects is my philosophy.
TRain smarter not harder !!
This was just intoduced to me by a friend of mine who is not a your fly by night gym rat but one of the top rated researcher in the field of suplementation today
if you do cardio in the morning
set alarm clock one hour before you do cardio session, pop this and goto back to bed for another hour
take
25 mgs ephederine
200 mgs caffine
half an aspirin if you are over 15-20% body fat other wise you are going to burn burn a hole in your stomach possible from too much aspirin
another 4-6 hours later take half the dosages
then another 2 hour take half the dosage
wait 2-3 hours and take the full dosage before training
this is what i do and it works like a charm
5 am full dosage go back to sleep
6pm 30 minutes cardio
11 am half dosage
2 pm half dosage
5 pm full dosage
6 pm train
in bed 11 pm no problem
here is the reason why
Your body metabolsim is going to be reved up from morinnig cardio alone add the full dosage on top and your a fat burning machine, by lower the dosages you will keep yor body thermogenic longer and cut down on the shakes and other side effects. do this for 5-6 weeks and you will mamimize fat buriing while minimizing side effect. It ashame too many people in here have the more is better mentality and that is where people run into problems. So just remember when next gym rat gives you advice ask them to explain to you why? Half of them with be like DUH ! LOL
moderation is the key. Learn to maximizre results with little ot no minimal side effects is my philosophy.
TRain smarter not harder !!
fiatconspiracy
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ok here is one better, 120mg of E, 1.2g of C, and 6 or 7 clen per day!!!!!
THeMaCHinE
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PANTS said:
Aspirin is lousy and should be eliminated.
Aspirin
In theory, aspirin could help to increase the efficacy of ephedrine and caffeine and that’s why it’s often included in many fat burners. But when researchers actually looked to see exactly how much aspirin contributed to the overall efficacy of ephedrine and caffeine, they found that it had little, if any, effect. (Despite this, many supplement makers are still including "A" in their ECA stacks.)
Now, normally, it wouldn’t be a big deal if you included something that may or may not help ephedrine and caffeine much in terms of efficacy, but in this case, aspirin can be potentially harmful. It’s been shown that as little as 10 to 75 mg can cause gastrointestinal bleeding in normal humans. This can be life threatening in some cases. Definitely not worth an added 1% in efficacy. (6-11) Also note that some companies use white willow bark, which is sort of an herbal aspirin.
6. Horton TJ, Geissler CA. "Post-prandial thermogenesis with ephedrine, caffeine and aspirin in lean, pre-disposed obese and obese women." Int J Obes Relat Metab Disord 1996 Feb;20(2):91-7
7. Dulloo AG, Miller DS. "Aspirin as a promoter of ephedrine-induced thermogenesis: potential use in the treatment of obesity." Am J Clin Nutr 1987 Mar;45(3):564-9
8. Prichard PJ, et al. "Human gastric mucosal bleeding induced by low dose aspirin, but not warfarin." BMJ 1989 Feb 25;298(6672):493-6
9. Kallmann JW, et al. "Effects of low doses of aspirin, 10 mg and 30 mg daily, on bleeding time, thromboxane production and 6-keto-PGF1 alpha excretion in healthy humans." Thromb Res 1987 Feb 15;45(4):355-61
10. Cryer B, Feldman M. "Effects of very low dose daily, long-term aspirin therapy on gastrie, duodenal, and rectal prostaglandin levels and on mucosal injury in healthy humans." Gastroenterology 1999 Jul;117(1):17-25
11. Sorensen HT, et al. "Risk of upper gastrointestinal bleeding associated with the use of low-dose aspirin." Am J Gastroenterol 2000 Sep;95(9):2218-24
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Golfer18--old
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If you can add Yohimbe at 25mg orally to those stacks you have might respect. I think my Yohimbe is cocaine. That shit is a FOOL.
THeMaCHinE
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I use my own formulation that includes:
30 mgs/ephedrine
200 mgs/caffeine
2.5 mgs/yohimbine
I take 1x-2x /day for 5 days on 2 days off.
30 mgs/ephedrine
200 mgs/caffeine
2.5 mgs/yohimbine
I take 1x-2x /day for 5 days on 2 days off.
PANTS
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Yohimbine: not the same as Yohimbe you can buy in Health Food shops right?
Is it a more potent form? And can you suggest some cheap sources?
Thanx again,
P
P.S: The mgs I'm seeing in these post are scaring me! I told a pharmacist friend of mine and he was pretty freaked too!!
Also Clen and ECA should be taken together!
Is it a more potent form? And can you suggest some cheap sources?
Thanx again,
P
P.S: The mgs I'm seeing in these post are scaring me! I told a pharmacist friend of mine and he was pretty freaked too!!
Also Clen and ECA should be taken together!
EAST_COAST_BODYBUILDER
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THeMaCHinE said:
Where are you purchasing these from and what brands. I am interested in comparing the price of this to something premixed like and eca.
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