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How much do steroids enhance athletic performance ?

gpten said:
Do steroids build you muscle WITHOUT putting hardwork into it ?



no disrespect but what kind of ridiculous question is this??? George please help--we need some kind of screening process for new members--to avoid questions like this seemingly from a complete moron or a 5 year old
 
write down a big list of all the attributes you need to be a successful ball player ie speed, endurance, skill, hand eye co-ordination etc...then think about which of those steroids would affect positively and negatively.

your question is too open ended (and a tad pointless) to be answered meaningfullyin the context of this forum imo
 
shape said:
no disrespect but what kind of ridiculous question is this??? George please help--we need some kind of screening process for new members--to avoid questions like this seemingly from a complete moron or a 5 year old


he simply asked a question bro, i don't think he was thinking of not working out and taking them
 
Previous posts have touched on all the points I am about to make...

If you are athletic, comitted to training and eatting right with the appropriate amount of sleep... steroids will definitely make you better at whatever sport it is you are competing in.

Now, depending upon what type of sport you are competing in, there are different steroids out that that will be more suited to your needs. As stated, a baseball player does not have the same needs a football player or basketball player does etc.

The recovery time for your muscles when using steroids is SIGNIFICANTLY decreased, which allows you to train harder and thus increase your gains even more over your average athlete.

Steroids give all athletes an edge over people who do not use steroids... unless youre a genetic freak which is extremely rare.
 
gpten said:
That could actually be very beneficial for pitchers, especially relief pitchers.



I don't know if I agree with this statement..... Having been a pitcher for many years, I have to say muscle recovery isn't a big part of pitching..... It's more the connective tissue that needs time to recover for a Pitcher (IE: Tendons and Ligaments) AAS will do lil or nothing for connective tissue recovery, unless he's using a form of Deca which will help for sure..... So, a pitcher that uses AAS might throw faster and harder due to more muscle mass, but that "edge" won't last very long if he's in for a long time.... So, your statement about Relief pitchers can be true.... The arm and shoulder get very sore after pitching a few Innings, and unless youre using Deca, I don't see that changing much.....

rizz
 
Of course steroids will give you markedly better performance in virtually any sport you want to play. Why would you ask a question like that? Seriously.

You don't think being a LOT bigger and MUCH stronger helped Bonds go from a good player his whole career, who would hit 30-35 HRs a year, to a guy who suddenly hit 73 HRs in a single season.... after the age of 35???!!! OF COURSE IT DID.
 
Prizz said:
I don't know if I agree with this statement..... Having been a pitcher for many years, I have to say muscle recovery isn't a big part of pitching..... It's more the connective tissue that needs time to recover for a Pitcher (IE: Tendons and Ligaments) AAS will do lil or nothing for connective tissue recovery, unless he's using a form of Deca which will help for sure..... So, a pitcher that uses AAS might throw faster and harder due to more muscle mass, but that "edge" won't last very long if he's in for a long time.... So, your statement about Relief pitchers can be true.... The arm and shoulder get very sore after pitching a few Innings, and unless youre using Deca, I don't see that changing much.....

rizz

I see, and I could agree to a certain extent. But recovery could be very beneficial to a pitcher, especially an elder one. I've always suspected that roger clemens used something due to his sustained dominance well into his 40's. He had the stamina and endurance that a younger pitcher didn't even posess.
 
Tallguy1 said:
Of course steroids will give you markedly better performance in virtually any sport you want to play. Why would you ask a question like that? Seriously.

You don't think being a LOT bigger and MUCH stronger helped Bonds go from a good player his whole career, who would hit 30-35 HRs a year, to a guy who suddenly hit 73 HRs in a single season.... after the age of 35???!!! OF COURSE IT DID.

This really doesn't anwser my question though, bonds is an isolated incident. Leaguewide, statiscians have confirmed that there's very little evidence that steroids even had a small impact on baseball homerun numbers - Ofcourse, there may be isolated incidents, but nonetheless, very little have seen an increase like that, if any at all.

It would also depend if steroids increases fast-twitch muscle fibers, which increases batspeed - Which has a lot to do with flexbility, but it does make sense that the added muscle would help you turn some warning track flyballs into homeruns, or a pitcher throw 95mph instead of 90mph.
 
Ok guys, here's the deal; steroids are a PERFORMANCE ENHANCER, and nowhere does it give you TALENT! It also doesn't help with HAND-EYE COORDINATION which is what you need to hit the fuckin' ball in the first place. I don't give a shit how strong you are, if you don' thave that, you can't fuckin' hit, PERIOD. Look at the story of Casey at the Bat; huge, strong guy that everyone was intimidated by that struck the fuck out. All that strength didn't do him a shit bit of good. My advice is get some good hand-eye coordination THEN you can juice the shit out of yourself and swing for the fences.
 
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