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goku_kakarot77
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if using 0.25mg eod while on, will it hinder gains much at all? can anyone chime in from epxerince
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how much adex will hinder gains?
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Para_Shoot
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I would kind of like to know that too. I am also using .25mg mon, wed, fri just as protection for my 150mg test prop a week and 50mg eq a week hrt.
Fatboy1984
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i dont think that much will hinder gains at all. i was takin .5 ed and still gained 24 pounds on my first test deca cycle.
Im gyno prone though.
Im gyno prone though.
eClenbuterol
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The gains "hindered" by arimidex use are slim to nil, that goes for most AI use. In fact, both anecdotal and medical evidence suggests there is no noticeable hindered gains while using an AI. You might (and I stress might) lose a few percent gains but avoid nasty estrogenic side effects such as gynecomastia (bitch tits), hypertension (high blood pressure), fat gains, benign prostatic hyperplasia (increased prostate size which can lead to cancer) and a myriad of other problems associated with high estrogen levels.
Studies have shown about a 40-50% decrese in estrogen level with the use of 0.5mgs-1mg ED of arimidex, so even at the proper 1mg ED dosage you would only be cutting your estrogen in half.
Ezekiel
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Interesting, but at $120 for 28 tabs multiplied by say a 90 day cycle @ 1 tab a day = $360 us. YIKES! lol
Not everyone is susceptable to Gyno etc... Right?
While it might be great advice, it seems unlikly that most will take 1 tab a day based on economics..Most of us have more time then $$ adn very little time
Personally, while on I take .25 eod and during PCT I take .5 eod.
Good information though... Thank-you!
Blessings,
I am doing .5 ED and have noticed no hinderance myself. Even though I do not seem to be gyno prone I am not taking any chances.
People who are willing to settle for slower gains, in an attempt to stay lean throughout, or for those who are truly sensitive to estrogen and do not want to take the risk of problems occurring. Then arimidex is the clear weapon of choice here, at least to those who can afford it. Things one needs to note while using arimidex is that the benefits of estrogen become non-existent as well. First of all that means gains can be drastically reduced. They will be leaner and more qualitative, but they will nonetheless be seriously reduced. A second problem is that estrogen seems to have a positive effect on cholesterol levels. Since estrogen is reduced, the use of arimidex may have a profound impact on HDL to LDL ratio's in your cholesterol profile. In this aspect the use of Nolvadex is more user-friendly, because despite its anti-estrogenic effects in most tissues, it seems to exert positive estrogenic effects in the liver and promote a better cholesterol profile.
This didn't come from my mouth.. But I agree with it 100 percent!
This didn't come from my mouth.. But I agree with it 100 percent!
ai's at any effective dose will hinder gains to some digree. the idea is to use as little as possible over all. if can get through a cycle with only 5 total mg taken only using it as you need it where taking it eod from the start you will be taking 10mg then the as needed would be better. but if you are verry prone to estro sides and you can ward them off with a steady low dose than that may be the way to go. estrogen helps make gains. i used to inject estrogen on cycle and use serms to block gyno and became extremely strong. that extra stregnth helps the size gains. im not suggesting anyone do this. i dont cycle at all anymore because my heart was serously stressed.
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ALIN
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I dont think they hinder gains at all if used correctly. In fact I think you look and feel better when you use an AI with a AAS cycle.
goku_kakarot77
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at 0.25mg eod or 3x week, is this enough to hinder gains on a high dose cycle
The thing about anti aromatases is, if you're not suseptable to gyno, you probably don;t need all that much. I find most guys can get away with .25 twice a week ,which won't hinder gains to any noticeable level. But if you ARE prone to gyno, you can need up to 1/2 mg ED or more.
Fatboy1984
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what about letro. Im tring letro during this my next cycle. cause i was taking .5 adex ed my last one and still got gyno. I dont think adex works to well on my for some reason. The letro seems to work though. I guess ill just expierment and really pay attention to my nips.
what i dont understand about all this is.
Do the people that are prone to gyno just get higher estro and prolactin build up? or does everyones estro go up alot and some people just dont get gyno? If the first one is the case, it would seem that if your gyno prone you could use an ia to lower your estro to the amount of somone who is not gyno prone and youd still have the same gains as that person.
I dont know i wish i just had a ton of money to do a ton of blood tests at different times as an expeiriment.
what i dont understand about all this is.
Do the people that are prone to gyno just get higher estro and prolactin build up? or does everyones estro go up alot and some people just dont get gyno? If the first one is the case, it would seem that if your gyno prone you could use an ia to lower your estro to the amount of somone who is not gyno prone and youd still have the same gains as that person.
I dont know i wish i just had a ton of money to do a ton of blood tests at different times as an expeiriment.
Estro receptors at the breast site.
Fatboy1984
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So some people have estro receptors and some dont? Im gonna do some research on this over the weekend.
