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How many sets while on AS

sweed

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Ok.. i want to get things straightened out... last night my partner and I were discussing how many sets to do, but we're not ON yet.. and he was like.. lets do 5 exersizes of 3 sets.. and I said, thats way too much, we're not on the juice yet. So would 12- 15 sets be a good amount while being on AS without over training?

SUNDAY SUNDAY SUNDAY!! :evil:
 
sweed said:
Ok.. i want to get things straightened out... last night my partner and I were discussing how many sets to do, but we're not ON yet.. and he was like.. lets do 5 exersizes of 3 sets.. and I said, thats way too much, we're not on the juice yet. So would 12- 15 sets be a good amount while being on AS without over training?

SUNDAY SUNDAY SUNDAY!! :evil:

Don't go over 8. Go heavy or go home, whether you're on steroids or not. I like to go for 5 reps, where a 6th would barely be possible. You need to inflict as much damage as possible upon your muscles.
 
azul said:
Don't go over 8. Go heavy or go home, whether you're on steroids or not. I like to go for 5 reps, where a 6th would barely be possible. You need to inflict as much damage as possible upon your muscles.
Are you saying 8 sets max per body part?
 
help4john said:
Are you saying 8 sets max per body part?

Sets are ultimately up to you. I meant reps.

PS: I just realized this post was about sets, not reps. Sorry:(
 
azul said:
Sets are ultimately up to you. I meant reps.

PS: I just realized this post was about sets, not reps. Sorry:(
Sometimes after a few 5-6 failure sets its nice to lower wieght and do on set high reps for burn, pump
 
8 reps sounds good, i usually hit 10-8-6 when i lift...if you wanted to always hit less then 8 then your wieghts would stay the same right if you increase then your rep would drop? as sets..i would say 4 per body part
 
I was always curious about that also. I mean how many sets should you be doing (on and off AS really) per body part if you're going to positive failure each rep? Should you do less reps for biceps/triceps then you should for the other big muscle groups? I've heard so many different opinions/theories regarding this...
 
WannaBeBig72 said:
I was always curious about that also. I mean how many sets should you be doing (on and off AS really) per body part if you're going to positive failure each rep? Should you do less reps for biceps/triceps then you should for the other big muscle groups? I've heard so many different opinions/theories regarding this...

i like doing 9- 12 sets per body part ... i havn't been on AS yet, but i start on Sunday so i was thinking 12- 15 sets would be good without over training.. i know my buddy will want to do like 20 sets.. but we're not Arnold's here, and i dont want to overtrain.
 
Not trying to be an ass here BUT, "on" or not, shoudn't we have our training principles and diciplines down pat way before we enter the world os AAS?

SQ-
 
sweed said:
i like doing 9- 12 sets per body part ... i havn't been on AS yet, but i start on Sunday so i was thinking 12- 15 sets would be good without over training.. i know my buddy will want to do like 20 sets.. but we're not Arnold's here, and i dont want to overtrain.



9-12 per body part??? whats a typical chest day look like for u?
 
Hey AssQUE ( lol JK bro) , this is just something that I was wondering about training Off... I had in mind to be doing 12- 15 sets.. its just that my buddy wanted to do 15 sets when we're off and I thought that was too much.. just seeing if my "stratagy" was correct. I already have a modified 5x5 program to switch to mid cycle :)
 
I do 3-4 exersizes per bodypart and 3 to 4 sets per exersize.
Which can be 9 to 16 sets depending on how I'm feeling that particular day.
 
sweed said:
Hey AssQUE ( lol JK bro) , this is just something that I was wondering about training Off... I had in mind to be doing 12- 15 sets.. its just that my buddy wanted to do 15 sets when we're off and I thought that was too much.. just seeing if my "stratagy" was correct. I already have a modified 5x5 program to switch to mid cycle :)

Ok I thought this was one of those how do I train threads...... ;)
 
This whole thing of sets is so very relative and here's why. Take an endomorph, big guy, kinda fat. He will be able to do more sets without overtraining than will an ectomorph. An ectomorph should do few sets, heavy as possible, and then go home and rest, rest, rest. The endomorph doing this would just get even fatter, he should do higher reps, more sets and workout more often than his ecto counterpart. As for the mesomorph, well, we all hate these lucky bastards anyway, don't we. It really don't seem to matter what the hell they do, their gonna grow no matter what. ;)
 
Oh yeah, as far the being on steroids thing, your training need not change because of that. Good training is good training. Juice should enable your intensity to increase, as far as volume, it really isn't necessary.
 
LeanOnMe said:
This whole thing of sets is so very relative and here's why. Take an endomorph, big guy, kinda fat. He will be able to do more sets without overtraining than will an ectomorph. An ectomorph should do few sets, heavy as possible, and then go home and rest, rest, rest. The endomorph doing this would just get even fatter, he should do higher reps, more sets and workout more often than his ecto counterpart. As for the mesomorph, well, we all hate these lucky bastards anyway, don't we. It really don't seem to matter what the hell they do, their gonna grow no matter what. ;)
well im a 230 lbs ectomorph... soo?? haha jk, i know how to train, love it, and can't wait to be training on gear. my intensity is already high, but there is always room for improvement!
 
This question is invalid and any generic perscription is also invalid as there are too many other factors than simply the number of sets.

--Number of reps in each set (3 sets of 3 vs. 3 sets of 15)
--Intensity,%1RM, of the weight used (3 sets of 3 at 95% or 3 sets of 3 at 50%)
--Frequency that is being utilized (3 sets of 3 once per week or 3 sets of 3 five times per week)

And lastly, total volume which is basically the sum of all the components and the most important factor in all of this. Some lifters can tolerate outrageous volumes and some much less. This disparity exists at every level even among equivalently performing lifters (i.e. world championships - same weight class - identical totals - very different training volumes and abilities to train with given intensities).

So with all of this, steroids enhance a lifter's ability to handle higher loads of volume and recuperate more quickly. Just as there is disparity between natural lifters there will be disparity here. The only thing one can say is that tolerable training loads while using anabolics will exceed what is naturally tolerable for a given individual. There are people on this planet who can tolerate more clean than many people juiced to the gills. A good bit of this comes from training correctly over a period of years.
 
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