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how long should I work out?

fcfmuaythai

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how long should my workouts be while on the juice? I feel like I could work out for hours and not get exhausted, and more workouts are pretty rough, sweating the whole time. can i overwork myself, or should i go balls out?
 
45 mintues max and out.
betta fuckin hit that shit hard though..

now that i think about it, after 45 minutes of heavy duty training, i'm so beat that i can barely walk back to my ride...

mmm...
some dudes train for hours..
i dont see how thats possible if you're hittin it hard.
 
originally posted by stachboogie 45 mintues max and out.
betta fuckin hit that shit hard though..

now that i think about it, after 45 minutes of heavy duty training, i'm so beat that i can barely walk back to my ride...

mmm...
some dudes train for hours..
i dont see how thats possible if you're hittin it hard.
that is because they are busy yapping at the bench.
 
fcfmuaythai said:
how long should my workouts be while on the juice? I feel like I could work out for hours and not get exhausted, and more workouts are pretty rough, sweating the whole time. can i overwork myself, or should i go balls out?

if you train right there is no way in the world you can go on for hours but if you take big rests between sets and dont lift heavy and dont really contract the muscle you are working out then yeah anyone can go on all day but again you wont make a drop of gains either.
 
how long should i be resting between sets? today i lifted alot heavier and i see what you mean, i was beat in about an hour, much quicker than usual. i don't think i was lifting heavy enough before.
 
Depends on the split and your workout. I would usuallly go 45-60min with regular workouts, but other routines such as madcow's 5x5 take as long an hour and fifiteen to and hour and a half, since you are handling heavier weights, need more rest time in between sets and need so many warm ups to hit the max weights. It all depends.
 
i am in and out in an hour, except for legs. or if the gym is loaded with chicks, which is tues for thier step arobics class,,,,,, then i in there a while longer :verygood:
 
with warm ups, I'm in for around an hour and a half, rest periods between 2-3 minutes
 
I would say between 40-90 minutes depending on what muscles you're hitting.

If you're training to failure, you shouldn't need to spend long before you're beat.

I never eat an hour before the gym, so training for more that 90 minutes would be too long without food - Gotta get home quick and sink that Protein Shake!
 
45 minutes to one hour. Go in focused and get your shit done. If you need to, wear a stop watch and time your rests between sets. This will help you keep your mind one the workout and away from 15-20 minute conversations with the big titted blonde by the water fountain.
 
fcfmuaythai said:
how long should i be resting between sets? today i lifted alot heavier and i see what you mean, i was beat in about an hour, much quicker than usual. i don't think i was lifting heavy enough before.
2 minutes max. If lifting heavy I like to rest up to 3 minutes - no more.
 
NYBodyguard said:
if you train right there is no way in the world you can go on for hours but if you take big rests between sets and dont lift heavy and dont really contract the muscle you are working out then yeah anyone can go on all day but again you wont make a drop of gains either.

I agree with this completely. The guys that are doing 2-3 hour workouts are either yapping for 5 minutes between every set or they have zero intensity. I find myself completely wiped out after an hour in the gym. Some days I have to find a place to lay down for 5-10 minutes just to get the strength to walk to the car....inevitably some fucker wants to use the bench so I end up moving 2-3 times.....bastards. :)
 
fcfmuaythai said:
how long should i be resting between sets? today i lifted alot heavier and i see what you mean, i was beat in about an hour, much quicker than usual. i don't think i was lifting heavy enough before.
This is my experience (finished cycle 5-6 weeks ago).
I use pyramidal system. 15-10-8-6-4-2-4-6-8-10, alternating with a little lighter workout.
I use to rest for 4-5 minutes between the sets.
Now, since a month, I rest not more than a minute between the sets, and I don't have any problem with it. It does become more intensive. I sweat a lot more and at the end, heart rate is up a lot and I am breathing hard, just like cardio. I am sore like hell and the pump is great. My recovery time is been getting better.
 
its personal preference , make sure you are going at 100 percent and obviously it will be a little different if your on the sauce
 
Everyone must be different because sometimes it takes me over 2 hours to finish two body parts in the gym. I do 3 exercises per body part and 4 sets for each exercise resting 3-4 minutes between sets. The reason I wait so long between sets is because I am lifting heavy. It takes this long to recoup enough to push another 12 reps of some heavy ass weight. I do notice that toward the end of my workout, my intensity levels are a little lower than in the beginning but to say my workouts aren't intense just because I take longer than an hour for my workout is ignorant.

And to give your muscles a shock, it is always good to switch around your routine, changing the number of sets, reps, and exercises which in turn can change the length of the workout.
 
I do the same routine as hvylftr in regards to # of exercises and sets. Takes me anywhere from an hour to an hour and a half. Sometimes the gym is packed, sometimes I'm a little tired, sometimes switch exercises from the free weight room to the nautilus equip room, etc. Lots of variables.
 
those guy saying rest no more than a minute, try squatting over 500lbs for reps, ass to the floor, and seeing if you can do another set in 60 seconds
 
Weight is relative.
If you are going almost to failure, then you are doing a set, no matter how much weight.
I understand that everyone is different.
But is it possible that people are not doing the max they are capable of because they depend too much on juice?
 
needsize said:
those guy saying rest no more than a minute, try squatting over 500lbs for reps, ass to the floor, and seeing if you can do another set in 60 seconds

Growth is about keeping the fatigue/tension high all the way thru the workout. If you rest too long the fatigue level never builds up and you're not in overload long enough to force the muscle to adapt. I rest 60-75 seconds with everything but squats which is closer to 90 seconds. I do rest longer during 5x5.
 
everyone has their own amount of time. i tend to stay at the gym longer- two to two and a half hours, but i take two 8-10 minute breaks in my workouts. this allows me to proceed to the next exercises and be able to lift heavy and intense. i also rest upwards of 4 minutes inbetween heavy sets to get my strength up. it works well for me, but everyone is different.
 
satchboogie said:
45 mintues max and out.
betta fuckin hit that shit hard though..

now that i think about it, after 45 minutes of heavy duty training, i'm so beat that i can barely walk back to my ride...

mmm...
some dudes train for hours..
i dont see how thats possible if you're hittin it hard.

good advice bro

better to undertrain than overtrain

if u want to get big..keep it short and sweet :)
 
Doing 5X5 I am usually done in 30-45 mins. I wear my headphones which helps keep people from bugging me so I get done faster.
 
Dial_tone said:
Growth is about keeping the fatigue/tension high all the way thru the workout. If you rest too long the fatigue level never builds up and you're not in overload long enough to force the muscle to adapt. I rest 60-75 seconds with everything but squats which is closer to 90 seconds. I do rest longer during 5x5.

maybe its the amount of intensity I put into my sets, if i get say 8 reps on a set of squats, I may only get 5 reps, but then I rest/pause till I get to 8, with that amount of effort, I still cant breathe 1-2 minutes later
 
for me rest is between 60-90 seconds...
12 sets and out...

2 years doin this shit and i'm 45 pounds heavier..
enough said!
 
satchboogie said:
2 years doin this shit and i'm 45 pounds heavier..
enough said!

not trying to start shit here, but posts like that that come across like my opinion is the most effective way, and there is no other way, really irritate me. I could easily say that 10+ years in and 140lbs heavier, enough said.....or 4 years juicing, and 80lbs heavier, so enough said. I actually gained 45lbs in my first year of juicing, so does that mean my style of training is that much more effective?

Depending on your style of training, there is a HUGE variety in the type of rest periods that work for growth. I absolutely guarantee, that anyone who came and trained with me, and put the exact amount of intensity into every set into each set, could not hit another set in 60 seconds. You wouldnt be able to breathe, and your weight from one set to the next, would be cut by 50% or more, so obviously thats not going to work very well for growth.

And I still maintain, anyone doing a set of squats, ass to the floor, to failure, cannot do another set one minute later, only way you could would be if you didnt put enough effort in the first place
 
fcfmuaythai said:
how long should my workouts be while on the juice? I feel like I could work out for hours and not get exhausted, and more workouts are pretty rough, sweating the whole time. can i overwork myself, or should i go balls out?

Doesn't the body go "an-arobic" after 45 minutes and you actually can loose more strengh than you can gain...
I work out 45 minutes to one hour and then cardio for at least 1/2 an hour....
 
needsize said:
not trying to start shit here, but posts like that that come across like my opinion is the most effective way, and there is no other way, really irritate me. I could easily say that 10+ years in and 140lbs heavier, enough said.....or 4 years juicing, and 80lbs heavier, so enough said. I actually gained 45lbs in my first year of juicing, so does that mean my style of training is that much more effective?

Depending on your style of training, there is a HUGE variety in the type of rest periods that work for growth. I absolutely guarantee, that anyone who came and trained with me, and put the exact amount of intensity into every set into each set, could not hit another set in 60 seconds. You wouldnt be able to breathe, and your weight from one set to the next, would be cut by 50% or more, so obviously thats not going to work very well for growth.

And I still maintain, anyone doing a set of squats, ass to the floor, to failure, cannot do another set one minute later, only way you could would be if you didnt put enough effort in the first place


I interpret that oppositely. To me if I can do the same weight & reps on set#5 as I did on sets#1-4 then I must have been sandbagging it on the earlier sets. My reps usually drop as the fatigue catches up to me....I may get 10-12 on the first set but only 6-8 on the final.
 
Dial_tone said:
I interpret that oppositely. To me if I can do the same weight & reps on set#5 as I did on sets#1-4 then I must have been sandbagging it on the earlier sets. My reps usually drop as the fatigue catches up to me....I may get 10-12 on the first set but only 6-8 on the final.

oh I never said I could get the same number of reps on the same weight, but I still try and keep it heavy. Say I benched 365 for 8 reps on first set, I will get 5-6 on the second.
With squats, say it was 495 x 5 reps, next set is probably 405 for 10-12 reps. But if I rested one minute, that second set of squats would be maybe 225lbs or less, and I am very sure my quads wouldnt have grown to this size, squatting that way
 
good thread....a lot of info packed with Ideas that all seem to be along the same "line"....work with intensity...train fast and keep your rest short.

I also train with headsets...no talking ..2 minute average between sets and I can get most body parts done in about an hour....
peace
 
satchboogie said:
45 mintues max and out.
betta fuckin hit that shit hard though..

now that i think about it, after 45 minutes of heavy duty training, i'm so beat that i can barely walk back to my ride...

mmm...
some dudes train for hours..
i dont see how thats possible if you're hittin it hard.

I agree. I go about an hour and I am gone. I can manage to shower, eat, relax a little but then I am ready for bed. Luckily, I lift in "The Bluesman's Powerhouse Gym" so the commute is about 10 seconds, I pick the music, and I am the biggest guy in the gym. :)

I am a couple of weeks into a Test/Dbol cycle now, but even back in March when I was on, I never had this Superman endurance everyone speaks of to want to stay in the gym for hours...


Bluesman
 
good thread and I agree 45min to 1hr max effort......you guys in the same boat, will you post a sample, say of your chest routine, sets and reps that allows you to get out in that amount time? High rep?
 
needsize said:
oh I never said I could get the same number of reps on the same weight, but I still try and keep it heavy. Say I benched 365 for 8 reps on first set, I will get 5-6 on the second.
With squats, say it was 495 x 5 reps, next set is probably 405 for 10-12 reps. But if I rested one minute, that second set of squats would be maybe 225lbs or less, and I am very sure my quads wouldnt have grown to this size, squatting that way

Is that rest period in Canadian seconds? :)
 
Dial_tone said:
Is that rest period in Canadian seconds? :)

is there any other kind???
 
1 hour and I train so hard that I'm wrecked leaving. A 90 year old granny could mug me leaving the gym and there would be jack-shit my tired and exhausted Ass could do about it!!!
 
JKurz1 said:
So, are you pyraminding the weights and lowering the reps?

me??

I do a pyramid type warmup, but then go to failure, and the weights drop from there, heres an example
squats
45 x 12 reps
135 x 8 reps
225 x 6
315 x 5
405 x 3
495 x 5(work set)
405 x 10-12(work set)
 
riverrock said:
1 hour and I train so hard that I'm wrecked leaving. A 90 year old granny could mug me leaving the gym and there would be jack-shit my tired and exhausted Ass could do about it!!!

i hear that one bro!
 
Your limits are what you decide not to break.
I am older than most of you people.
I have decreased my recovery time for legs and lats to 4 days.
3-4 days recovery period for upper body muscles.
I am only resting 60 seconds between sets.
How do I know it is working? I am increasing weight or increasing reps in each workout.
I am sore like hell when I leave the health club. Next morning, I'm fine.
 
needsize said:
maybe its the amount of intensity I put into my sets, if i get say 8 reps on a set of squats, I may only get 5 reps, but then I rest/pause till I get to 8, with that amount of effort, I still cant breathe 1-2 minutes later
Thanks NS - if anyone should know, I'd trust your theory........you in the gym for 45? How many sets/exercises/reps are you doing for each muscle group? Still I bp a day when bulking? A typical back day, as it's the largest upper body muscle, would consist of??????
 
my workouts, including warmup which can take 15-20 minutes, is at least 1 1/2 hours. On some bodyparts, I'm doing a lot of volume as they need catchup, like back or shoulders.
Heres an example for back, each set is to failure, and there are a lot of sets, but for the first time, my back is making great progress

wide grip pulldowns - 3 sets
one arms seated hammer strength rows - 3 sets
hammer strength pulldowns - 3 sets
barbell rows - 3 sets
close grip pulldowns 3 sets

rear laterals 4-6 sets
behind the back shrugs - 3 sets
shrugs to the front - 3 sets
 
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