How long does it take for Proviron to kick in?

[icelandic]

Icelandic: Proviron does not shut you down!

That is a very general statement, I myself did notice atrophy after only about 3 weeks @ 50mg/morning. Just as with any drug, everyone else's milage may vary. There are some studies which compared its antidepressive effects to an that of an ssri. When taken throughout the day in intervals it did indeed decrease natural test. All I was trying to say was it certainly won't help your hpta recover post-cycle, regardless of its libido supercharging effects.

If a blood test proves that SHBG is a problem, you might want to look into DIM, which is reputed by several HRT experts to improve the hormonal profile of both men and women.

 

[SOLID]

still nothing been taking 150mg ED. I'm doomed...or maybe it's a sign from God I should join the Priesthood or become a Monk

 

[Spartacus]

does Proviron partially shut you down or not?

 

[Riker29]

lack of desire. This has been going on for some time now, before I started to use gear...so I don't believe juice to be the problem. Even on gear 500mg of Test my drive really isn't there. I haven't felt horny like back in high school in years...I don't know what the fuck is wrong with me, but it's really starting to scare me. What kind of life is this?

It may be overtraining.

I am sorry, but most of the "routnes" that are tossed around for people are WRONG, and I have learned this from personal experience in the past year. Working out like 4 days a week (or more), going to failure and doing maybe 12 sets (or more) per bodypart will overtraing MANY MANY people unless they are ON something, or unless they are genetic freaks.

And we wonder why so many guy complain of problems like low sex drive, sleep difficulties, depression, etc.

You may want to read up on some different training philosophies in stuff like Braun and some of Metzger's stuff as well.

It may not be this issue, but overtraining WILL have these types of effects.

 

[catharsis]

This may not be related to your T levels or at all.........

I finished a relatively mild Summer stack: (Test/Deca/Winny/Liquidex/Bromo) around the last week of July. Did a very meticulous post cycle regimine: modified "gainskeeper formula", which lasted in entirety about 2 months (all of August and Sept) HCG,Liquidex,Clomid,Proviron,Bromo, and still had the EXACT symptoms you described. I got my nuts back up to par, only lost about 5 pounds post cycle, and never went though a post cycle depression. This was by far the best post-cycle regimine I'd ever done...... But..... I NEVER could get my libido back to normal.


Well I finally went to the Doc and described my symptoms. He suggested I have my T-levels tested which to my surprise came back within normal range (around 497). He then suggested it may not be my hormone levels that are causing my symptoms but instead be a neurotransmitter "thing". I was prescribed Wellbutrin (a Dopamine and norepi. reuptake inhibitor) and here we are about a month and a half later and I am feeling 100% better and about 90% where I think I should be. I estimate I'll be 100% in the libido department in about another 2-4 weeks.

Well bro, hope this helps out.....

 

[40butpumpin]

Good to see you back, SOLID.

 

[SOLID]

all good replies guys thanks. I think I'm going to get my T-levels checked again- get a blood panel done...and see where I'm at. My doctor had mentiones Wellbutrin before, it is not supposed to supress libido like other SRI's like Zoloft. I may give that a try. Have you noticed any side effects from taking Wellbutrin catharsis?

40 but pumpin...thanks bro I have not been on the computer much at all these days.

 

[catharsis]

Not only does Wellbutrin NOT suppress libido, it is actually known to increase it considerably.


Wellbutrin works on different neurotransmitters than does Zoloft, Paxil, Prozac, Celexa, etc. Those antidepressants work off of Seretonin where as Wellbutrin works off Dopamine and Norepinehrine. If your a little familiar with the differences between Seretonin and Dopamine/Norepi, you'll know that Dopamine/norepi is the main neurotransmitters involved in libido/desire and are involved in many other "excititory" physiologic mechanisms. Seretonin on the other hand is the antithesis of Dopamine and norepi. it has often been called the "rest and digest" neurotransmitter and is most noted for it's calming and relaxing effect, and unfortunately, if your "TOO" relaxed you can often become an absolutely emotionless zombie and have no libido whatsoever.


Wellburin is often "stacked" with Seretonin re-uptake inhibitors to counteract the sides associated with seretonin. It can howerver be taken on its own with no problem.Go ahead and get that blood workup done but you might want to mention this alternative method of Libido enhancement to your physician if he hasn't already mentoined. it



As far as sides, like any medication side effects will be different for each individual. I've actually known many people who absolutely hate Wellbutrin but I also know many more who swear by it. The most common sides I am aware of are increases BP and heartrate, jitteriness, euphoria, and a "speed like" feeling. Seizures have been noted in some patients but uncommon and also head aches and nausea are mentioned as well. The minor sides have been known to fade over a couple of weeks and can be controlled by experimenting with the proper dosage.

 

[jogan]

Icelandic: Proviron does not shut you down!

Ok, there are studies which indicates that even long term treatmendt with proviron does not shut you down.


But I think it contraproductive to take it post cycle, because there is a high binding affinity from Proviron not to the AR, but to the SHGB.
So post cycle your body starts to produce own test, the proviron replace it from the SHGB, and the own test is metabolized by the liver. The hpta is shut down for a longer time.

So Solid, at the moment I would stay away from Proiron.

Wish you luck

 

[robbysixx]

all good replies guys thanks. I think I'm going to get my T-levels checked again- get a blood panel done...and see where I'm at. My doctor had mentiones Wellbutrin before, it is not supposed to supress libido like other SRI's like Zoloft. I may give that a try. Have you noticed any side effects from taking Wellbutrin catharsis?

40 but pumpin...thanks bro I have not been on the computer much at all these days.

hey bro howd you go , you figure out the problem?