i'm doing generic @40 mgs by itself, and i'm starting to notice some good shape and very good pupms.I'm dieting. Strenght is up a bit but it was going to go up anyway since i'm coming from a layoff (7 weeks ago) and so i was gaining strenght well even before starting ox.I definately can see good things for now but it hasn't hit me hard yet. When are those great results everyone speaks about going to come?(don't mean big size, i know it won't come, just the " hard look")

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