How is EQ by itself?

[Swole_2112]

I know that the effect of EQ isn't as dramatic as deca or dbol but I've read that the gains are more quality and lasting. That being said, how good is EQ as something to be taken by itself? What kind of dosage, etc? Info appreciated. Cheers.

 

[lawnsaver]

Truely all steroids can be effective!! It all depends on the person. Diet, training, genetics are all factors.

Normally one can expect 10-12lbs from 400mg of EQ for 10 weeks.

 

[Djicy]

400 to 600 a week in my opinion. I wouldn't take it by itself throw some test in there or some Winny

 

[ericahls]

I know that the effect of EQ isn't as dramatic as deca or dbol but I've read that the gains are more quality and lasting. That being said, how good is EQ as something to be taken by itself? What kind of dosage, etc? Info appreciated. Cheers.

It all depends on your cycle history, your diet and your current stats.

That said, EQ can give slow but noticeable gains. Your strength will increase along with your lean mass. The degree to which this will happen will of course depend on the factors mentioned above.

400 - 600 mg / week broken into 2 shots / week will work well.

 

[TheRide]

Truely all steroids can be effective!! It all depends on the person. Diet, training, genetics are all factors.

Normally one can expect 10-12lbs from 400mg of EQ for 10 weeks.

I agree w/most of that. 10-12 lbs is a bold claim. Your gains really depend on you and how you react to the drug. I have run EQ solo b4 and gotten decent results on 400mg/week for 10 weeks. Didn't put on that type of weight. Maybe 4-5 lean, quality lbs. But the vascularity and hardness of EQ can't be beat.

 

[SaleenMustang91]

well guys i did 40mg of anavar and to tell u the truth i didnt like the way it worked on me...this summer i was thinking about 600mg of eq alone...do u guys think i will get better results and vascularty with eq...because i was very disapointed with anavar..it was almost like a prohormone to me....but i guess its just the way my body reacted

 

[black sheep]

well guys i did 40mg of anavar and to tell u the truth i didnt like the way it worked on me...this summer i was thinking about 600mg of eq alone...do u guys think i will get better results and vascularty with eq...because i was very disapointed with anavar..it was almost like a prohormone to me....but i guess its just the way my body reacted

Are you sure it was real var?

You won't get huge gains from var, but you should get a nice body comp change from it.

As for EQ, throw some test in there and run it. I think EQ by itself is a waste. But then again I think every cycle should have test in it. Just my .02

 

[SaleenMustang91]

yea it was definetly real var it was the old british dragon pentagon shaped and the color was orange and yea i would absoluty love to throw some test in there or even do 500mg of test but im very prone to mpb and to tell u the truth i would like to keep at least some of my hair

 

[lawnsaver]

I agree w/most of that. 10-12 lbs is a bold claim. Your gains really depend on you and how you react to the drug. I have run EQ solo b4 and gotten decent results on 400mg/week for 10 weeks. Didn't put on that type of weight. Maybe 4-5 lean, quality lbs. But the vascularity and hardness of EQ can't be beat.

As I said, it depends on multiple factors.

If you can't put on 10lbs during a cycle with 400mg of EQ a week, you either have bad genetics or you just are not eating properly.

Remember you will hold a little water weight on EQ. If you want to to put into LBM gains, 8-10lbs

 

[Dial_tone]

I think 1 lb/week is a respectable gain on EQ, and probably better than most get without eating everything that isn't tied down.

 

[SlimJim300]

For any of you guys who've used EQ alone, were you shut down bad enough to need HCG or did you just use nolva?

 

[lawnsaver]

For any of you guys who've used EQ alone, were you shut down bad enough to need HCG or did you just use nolva?

Yes, EQ shut me down. PCT is needed. HCG should be taken throughout the cycle for preventitive purposes anyway.

 

[BigAndy69]

Honestly, I'm not a big fan of EQ. It's a nice addition to a cycle, but that's about it.

 

[TheRide]

As I said, it depends on multiple factors.

If you can't put on 10lbs during a cycle with 400mg of EQ a week, you either have bad genetics or you just are not eating properly.

Remember you will hold a little water weight on EQ. If you want to to put into LBM gains, 8-10lbs

I agree w/both of those points. But, it depends on what you're goals are. Sometimes loosing "x" lbs of fat and gaining "x" lbs of muscle can be a wash @ the end of the day (not saying I loose 10 lbs of fat but I have gone from 15-10% and only gained about 5-6lbs of muscle @ times.) Many times I will run EQ w/Winstrol while maintaining a strict diet (and running Thermos) to lean up and maintain quality mass. I purposely don't attempt to gain all that much weight while on cycles. But you are right in that diet is key in this type of cycle as with all.

 

[TheRide]

For any of you guys who've used EQ alone, were you shut down bad enough to need HCG or did you just use nolva?

Nope...

 

[TheRide]

Yes, EQ shut me down. PCT is needed. HCG should be taken throughout the cycle for preventitive purposes anyway.

Like we've said... everyone is differnet. Lawn and I have had very different EQ experiences as this thread has shown. You need to know your body; other peoples experiences can help in your decision making process but @ the end of the day, everyone is different.

 

[Dial_tone]

I have great genetics and i'm not sure i'd gain 10 from EQ alone.

 

[n1tro]

It didnt live up to the hype for me. If you take it alone I think you will be disappointed.

 

[TheRide]

I have great genetics and i'm not sure i'd gain 10 from EQ alone.

DT... is that how you get 69 k points per hit!

 

[Dirty V]

I love Eq. Slow solid gains with little to no sides for me. No water retention, acne or hairloss. 400-600mgs a week, broken up in to shots weekly. Take it 10-12 weeks. Most will recommend some test with it. I like it by itself-but I dont compete

 

[Swole_2112]

What dirty v said is exactly what I've read about EQ. That the gains are slow but quality and more permanent. I don't know about you guys but that's what I'm interested in, keepable gains. Not the kind that you get from a-drol where the gains are gone as soon as stop taking the substance. Know what I mean.

 

[n1tro]

What dirty v said is exactly what I've read about EQ. That the gains are slow but quality and more permanent. I don't know about you guys but that's what I'm interested in, keepable gains. Not the kind that you get from a-drol where the gains are gone as soon as stop taking the substance. Know what I mean.

If you take drol you will still keep gains. The bottom line is EQ won't allow for dramatic results being used alone, and if you ask me it all depends on your pct and the way you train when you come off a cycle if your gains will be keepable or not.

 

[Swole_2112]

N1tro,

I agree with you to a point. PCT has a lot to do with it and you will almost always retain at least some of what you gained through a cycle, no matter how slight. However and speaking from my own experience, I just retain my gains better on some types of gear then on others. For example, I once did a cycle stacking adrol with cyp. Even though I was still on the cyp, shortly after the supply of adrol was gone so were the gains I received from it. I still had the effect of the cyp, but the adrol gains were as though they'd never been there. Same thing w/ dbol. It's great while I'm on it but as soon as I'm done... so are the gains. Very difficult for me to keep. And my PCT is always the same. Nolva. I know that's not as good as HCG and not an ideal PCT but the fact that I retain gains from some gear better than others on such a PCT goes to show that I would retain gains from those particular types of gear more so than others regardless of how good the PCT was.

Now, I have no practical experience with EQ. I know just what I've read. My question would then be what is it about EQ that makes the gains so retainable? Perhaps I'll never know the details. Another thing I know is that some don't like EQ by itself and some swear by it. I won't know until I try. There's no teacher like first hand experience.

 

[JAYMAN014]

I'm on wk 4 of my EQ cycle and have gainied 2pds since although leaned out quit a bit and muscles seam much more full. Although this will be the last EQ only report from me hopped on DBOL Mon, for 6wks.

 

[Mackavelli~Returns]

Just getting back into the game after sometime. I use to be on the boards often and just reading a lot of info lately. A lot of things have changed since I left. In regards to eq what are some of the better brands. How is the British Dragon stuff seems pricey, but is it worth it. I had good success in the past with Fort Dodge and spectro.

 

[2lunatics_ina_rubber_room]

Just getting back into the game after sometime. I use to be on the boards often and just reading a lot of info lately. A lot of things have changed since I left. In regards to eq what are some of the better brands. How is the British Dragon stuff seems pricey, but is it worth it. I had good success in the past with Fort Dodge and spectro.

Know the feeling, bro. I'm just now getting back into the game as well. Last time I did a cycle D-Bol was still manufactured in the USA !!!!

As for the EQ ONLY QUESTION, that is as timeless as the Deca/D-Bol stack. If have used it by itself with great success in the past. In fact, I will be embarking on an EQ only cycle shortly. However, I tend to be an easy gainer with or without AAS. I'm also very patient and have no aspirations of cometitive bodybuilding. Guess it all depends on your goals and how your body responds to AAS ! Good luck with your cycle !!

2 Lunatics -- Bob & Jessica

 

[TheRide]

Just getting back into the game after sometime. I use to be on the boards often and just reading a lot of info lately. A lot of things have changed since I left. In regards to eq what are some of the better brands. How is the British Dragon stuff seems pricey, but is it worth it. I had good success in the past with Fort Dodge and spectro.

QV is my favorite. BD also gets good props.

 

[Dirty V]

QV is my choice as well!

 

[hugeman1]

QV is that good for when you train, I will try it too, just EQ for size when its bulk cycle.

 

[Bigdogmikey]

The leaner you are the better it works, stacks good with prop and b12 do ew for atleast 12-14 weeks, kicks in about week 7, I stayed on 600mg of eq for 7 monthes, it was a waste of money. I will never use eq again. Not good results for me

 

[Dirty V]

if you stay on gear that long (7 months) you receptors shut down. I love this web site but damn that why they call it cycling! take some time off BIG DOG! 7 months would be expensive!

 

[TheRide]

QV is that good for when you train, I will try it too, just EQ for size when its bulk cycle.

I don't understand what you are saying?

 

[TheRide]

The leaner you are the better it works, stacks good with prop and b12 do ew for atleast 12-14 weeks, kicks in about week 7, I stayed on 600mg of eq for 7 monthes, it was a waste of money. I will never use eq again. Not good results for me

600mg of EQ for 7 months.... if you didnt' have gains then I would say your cycle was SERIOUSLY flawed or you had bunk gear... or you just burned your receptors out staying on for that long.