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How good were Dorian Yates Genetics?

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Dorian Yates multiple Mr. Olympia winner trained like a monster, was he a monster?
Flex Wheeler is a genetic mutant who gets far without training at even a small fraction of Dorian Intensity, which brings me toi a question:


How good were dorian yates' genetics?
 
I think structure wise he sucked. He trained hard, ate right, used a whole lot of drugs which his body reacted unusually well to. There are many pros and amatures with better structures then Dorion.
 
pgerardone said:
I think structure wise he sucked. He trained hard, ate right, used a whole lot of drugs which his body reacted unusually well to. There are many pros and amatures with better structures then Dorion.
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I agree the guy is huge but I think his Physic suck's shawn Ray looks a 100% better at the same weight class. Dorian has fucked up vascularity the veins in his bis squiggle like a crooked river. It kinda looks like varicose veins rather than good circulation.
 
Dorian Yates
VITAL STATS
Name: Dorian Yates

Location: Walmley, Sutton Coldfield, England

Born: April 19, 1962

Height: 5'10"

Off Season Weight: Around 280 lbs.

Competition Weight: Around 260 lbs.

Favorite Exercise: Bent-Over Rows



Competitive Record
1984 Mr. Birmingham novice 1st

1985 Novice West Coast (England) 1st

1985 World Games 7th (London)

1986 EFBB British HW 1st (in London)

1988 British Championships 1st

1990 Night of Champions 2nd

1991 Night of Championships 1st

1991 Mr. Olympia 2nd

1991 English Grand Prix 1st

1992 Mr. Olympia 1st

1993 Mr. Olympia 1st

1994 Grand Prix Germany 1st

1994 Grand Prix Spain 1st

1994 Grand Prix England 1st

1994 Mr. Olympia 1st

1995 Mr. Olympia 1st

1996 Mr. Olympia 1st



Dorian Yates


Dorian has won 5 Mr. Olympia's in a row. He is the biggest of the professional bodybuilders and when beside him makes all other bodybuilders look small. His nickname is the 'Shadow'.

Dorian Andrew Mientjez Yates was born April 19, 1962 in England. Dorian was raised in Hurley, in rural Staffordshire. When he was a teenager, his family moved to Birmingham, Britain's second largest city. During these times, Dorian got himself into trouble, and was sentenced to six months at Whatton Youth Detention Centre. It was here that Dorian earned an instant reputation as the strongest and fittest of Whatton's 300 inmates. This gave him new respect for himself. Whatton was the wake up call for Dorian. If he did not do something, he would end up in and out of prison all of his life. Dorian resolved that he would not be back.

In January 1983, Dorian met his future wife Debbie Chin. Their son Lewis, was born in May 1984. Today, Dorian owns the Temple Gym in England. Currently lives in Walmley, Sutton Coldfield, England. He has two boxer dogs names Conan and Samson.




http://www.bodybuilders.com/dorian.htm

Pulled off of that web site. here's an extra pic.
 
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Dorian is divorced now and partying his ass off. :D

Joe Weider is a big part of Dorians success. You dont let your companies highest paid spokesman loose, especially if it's your show(the Olympia), Dorian was good but there were a few years that others were better. The Olympia needs to be a show not tied to a individual, Weider has alot to gain or loose by who wins, and it shows. Too many politics. JMO
 
Very Average...

There is picture of Dorian literally months before he started lifting in a book called "Blood In The Face" and he looks VERY average, almost skinny.
 
I can't believe that anyone would consider dorian's genetics average or below average! So what if he was skinny before he started training. Genetics don't only involve initial bone structure and muscle mass. They include how ones body adapts to training. There is no way a true hardgainer could get to 280lbs. Everyone responds different to different training regimens also. So what if Flex Wheeler doesn't train at the same intensity as Dorian. Maybe if he did it would do jack for him, and he might even lose weight. I am not saying it takes freak genetics to be a freak, but it definately takes above average genetics. Maybe your perception of average is messed up.

Peace
 
I must put some people right!

Dorian actually weighed over 300lbs off season. I saw him at a seminar in `94 and he wieghed 302lbs back then. He looked good as well with lots of definition.

Lets not forget that Dorian is the guy who took Bodybuilding to the next level with his freaky size he went to between his first Olympia win in 92 to defend it in `93. He was the first of the Marcus Ruhl`s and Jean pier Fux`s. He had the best back out of all the pros in his olympia reign PERIOD. He may not have been the most symetrical guy but I`d rather be an uncemetrical 300+Lbs than a 210lb Shawn Ray.:D
 
Politics is right! Like 24/7 said. That's why Paul Demayo dropped out of the olympia in 95'. But what doesn't have politics involed? Dorian is still very much a champ!
 
i too think that his structure was not one of the best, but he had the discipline and dedication thats why he was the best for so many years
 
I met Dorian last year in my gym, he was promoting his new supplements, the guywas much much smaller than he was before he retired, however he was a MIni Dorian, same muscle look, but without the siz....All PRO BODYBUILDERS HAVE SICK GENETICS>>>>>THEY ARE ALL BEASTS BEFORE THE JUICE!!!!!
 
LloydChristmas said:
I can't believe that anyone would consider dorian's genetics average or below average! So what if he was skinny before he started training. Genetics don't only involve initial bone structure and muscle mass. They include how ones body adapts to training. There is no way a true hardgainer could get to 280lbs. Everyone responds different to different training regimens also. So what if Flex Wheeler doesn't train at the same intensity as Dorian. Maybe if he did it would do jack for him, and he might even lose weight. I am not saying it takes freak genetics to be a freak, but it definately takes above average genetics. Maybe your perception of average is messed up.

Peace
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Sorry to say but training does not have much to do with who becomes Mr. Olympia. Dorian clearly trained harder then most and was an intelligent bodybuilder. But the number one thing that separates the top pros from others is an unusually good reaction to anabolics. You probably train harder then most pros do or at least as hard. These top guys just turn into freaks when anabolics are introduced in their regime. As for Dorian having good genetics, he of course did not have bad genetics. But personally I never liked his physique and never thought he was a good representative of the sport. He was huge and hard but not at all pleasant to look at. He was down right ugly. Ronnie is bigger then Dorian ever was but at least he has a body the flows together well. When I looked at Dorian what I saw were huge body parts stuck together without a semblance of a pleasant shape. I really believe, and of course this is my opinion, that Dorian was the worst Mr. Olympia ever. Of course you must take into consideration the time frame as you can not compare todays Mr. Olympia to Lee Haney. But taken in the context of the time period I really think Dorian was the poorest Mr. Olympia ever chosen.
 
Genetic Freak without a doubt. And I'm not trying to take away from his hard work and dedication. But to look like that you have to have a god given base.
 
Dorian's genetics are superb.

It's this simple- in body building all else being even the best genetics wins, add steroids and the best genetics still win.

Take the AS out of BB and the same guys would still be winning!
 
this guy in his time was awesome.....give the respect he deserves.....i just love it when skinny little f*cks talk shit about genetics and say he was a skinny bastard back in the day......one question...."who the hell wasnt skinny at one point in their lives?"......stop talking shit on the guy:)
 
One thing that always amazes me about Dorian is how he always look hard, even in the off season. Most guys in the off season look a little soft. Dorian always looks hard as a freakin' rock!!! Anyone seen his video Blood and Guts? I'd love to train with him. Most of us don't even know what real training is compared to how he trains.
 
The fact thay some one is skinny before touching weight does not tell a thing about genetics. What has made me think that is paul dillets pictures. At 17, he was skinny, something like 160lbs for 6feet+.
After 6 months of bodybuilding, dorian looked quite good for a beginner, some mass, nice lats, low BF, much better than the average guy.
 
needleboy said:
Dorian's genetics are superb.

It's this simple- in body building all else being even the best genetics wins, add steroids and the best genetics still win.

Take the AS out of BB and the same guys would still be winning!
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I couldn't disagree more. Yates responded extremely well to anabolics without them he would not have won Mr. Timbuck-Two. I'm not a Yates basher, he's my fav BB but those are the facts.
Have any of you seen the picture I referred to? If you haven't don't act like you know what you're talking about.
I personally have superior genetics but do not respond well (proportionally) to AS, that's what makes the difference.
 
NJstacked said:
I met Dorian last year in my gym, he was promoting his new supplements, the guywas much much smaller than he was before he retired, however he was a MIni Dorian, same muscle look, but without the siz....All PRO BODYBUILDERS HAVE SICK GENETICS>>>>>THEY ARE ALL BEASTS BEFORE THE JUICE!!!!!
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I'm Glad we have someone on this post who knows what thier talking about
 
Re: "Joe Weider is a big part of Dorians successé

Jeff_rys said:
The same for Ronnie.....
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And for Arnold, Lee, and every body who has been Mr.O.

That´s why people like Lee Priest will never been Mr.O.
 
Dorian's genetics?

ok guys, not to rip Ronnie or anything- but Dorian made it farther along as to maximizing his genetics. Look at the quality of his conditioning. Sure Ronnies a fucking freak but his only comparable area of superbly conditioned muscle is his ass. Huge muscle bellys don't make the Olympian.

Back in the 80's 2 guys were vaunted for their genetics . Lee Haney and Bob Paris. Now who the fuck wants to be Bob Paris ? Anyway genetics are overrated and misunderstood. Dorian still wins.
 
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APE OF GOD said:

Back in the 80's 2 guys were vaunted for their genetics . Lee Haney and Bob Paris. Now who the fuck wants to be Bob Paris ? Anyway genetics are overrated and misunderstood. Dorian still wins.
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Ape I would agree that they are misunderstood but I disagree that they are overrated. I believe that they are underated. 99% of the people in the world could do the same drug and work out with the same intesity as Dorian but they wouldn't look quite like him. That is where genetics decides who is a freak at the clubs and amature level and who is taking home the Sandow. This is just my strong opinion of course. Everyone is more than entitled to their own.
 
"how good were Dorian Yates genetics?"

It depends on how you define "good genetics". IMHO good genetics are classifeid by the overall shape of the package. Not by how much mass you can slap onto a frame. It should also look somewhat functional, and atheletic.

I like Shawn Ray, Ken Wheeler, Frank Zane, Darrem Charles, ect. These newer guys are just power lifters who masquerade as body builders. MOST looks like Anthony Clark for the better part of the year.
 
HEY BUBBA, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG BUT DIDN'T DORIAN WIN 6 OLYMPIA TITLES 92'-97'. AND IF I HAD TO CRITIQUE DORIAN'S PHYSIC I WOULD HAVE TO SAY HIS BICEPS LACKED SOMEWHAT. JUST MY .02 CENTS.
 
Cornelius, forget about Lee Priest...

"That´s why people like Lee Priest will never been Mr.O."

You know as well as i that if let's say this year Lee Priest would be the winner that this would be a JOKE.

The main key to win is to be huge. But you cannot expect a small guy like Lee to beat Ronnie and the rest of the big boys. This would be ridiculous.
Sentiment does not count here.
 
I very much prefer Shawn Ray's or Bob Paris' physique over Dorians. Shawn and and even Paris aren't exactly small...they're both really big and surely could bench over 400lbs. Who wants to be a 300lb freak that can bench 600 if every girl that sees you runs away in terror. I'd rather look like Ray Paris and get the chicks.
 
genetics

Listen up now. People who compare Dorian and Ray are not discussing genetics. What we're talkin' about here is aestheics. That is in other words that which is pleasurable to look at, beautiful in appearence, etc. Now Dorian is an one big ugly mofo. That makes his Olympia wins a victory for all us regular jamochs(sp?) fuck that pretty boy shit . Like I said before Dorian still wins.
 
It's amazing that for guy who won the Mr.O 6 years has the worst double biceps in the business.
Dorians genetics were above average but they aren't superb.
 
I dont understand how he won, when i look at him I see a decent amount of muscle, of couse. but nothing stands out on him, maybe im just to young to have seen him in his competiting days but to me i dont understand b/c he is supposed to be this big MF'er but hes really not.
 
Intramuscular said:
His genetics didn't get him that body. Lots and lots of Roids did.
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C'mon man... you can't be serious... that's just as bad as all those skinny guys in the gym saying that anyone bigger then them MUST be on the sauce...

Roids don't build a body... hardwork does...
 
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C'mon man... you can't be serious... that's just as bad as all those skinny guys in the gym saying that anyone bigger then them MUST be on the sauce...

Roids don't build a body... hardwork does...
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Agreed on the hard work , but the roids definately help. How many people do you think made it to the Mr. O without years of juicing under their belt?
 
bissenmir said:
Politics is right! Like 24/7 said. That's why Paul Demayo dropped out of the olympia in 95'. But what doesn't have politics involed? Dorian is still very much a champ!
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Demayo wasn't perfect either, but he was fucking Superman IMO. If he could have brought up his chest a bit more, fuck he was badass. Long live Quadzilla!
 
As someone else said, it's important to qualify what you mean by "good genetics." It can mean a lot of things:

1--Structure/shape
2--Responsiveness to sauce
3--' ' to training
4--ability to get not only super-lean, but sickly dry

Dorian's structure was weird. He's one of my favorites, but his arms were odd-looking. I think people are actually wrong to rag him on development as such; his triceps pose was probably the best in bodybuilding when you consider his crazy conditioning, and his biceps were actually HUGE before he tore one of them. Check the pictures of him taken a few weeks out from the '93 Olympia before telling me his biceps lacked for mass :)

However, they were attached such that, when huge, they almost would hang off the side of his arms...the real mass isn't as apparent vs. someone like Vince Taylor, who also has long biceps but has outstanding insertion points.

Obviously, Dorian responded well to juice and to training. I still say that if he hadn't torn his left biceps, Ronnie Coleman wouldn't be a multi-Olympia winner. Ronnie's huge and more complete than Dorian (overlooking the calf, forearm, and possible trap "shortcomings" next to Yates), but at the same weights, the two look totally different. At 257, Yates is hard as nails and totally dry. To approach that kind of conditioning Ronnie has to weigh ~245, as he did at the '01 Arnold. Even then he isn't near as bone-dry. So, yes, Dorian outmasses him. That's especially evident when you realize Dorian is almost as hard at 270 (pre-Olympia pics in '93 again); he doesn't improve his conditioning significantly when he goes much below that weight.

So I think, definitely, Yates had well above-average genetics. Someone with average genetics wouldn't weigh 257 at 5'10" without a 50" waist to match. They wouldn't be able to move the iron Yates does even if they magically doubled their strength for that purpose.

I wouldn't go so far as to say he has the best genetics ever or anything like that, though, since his shape was borderline poor and he was skinny before he started training. I'd have to give him about an eight-five out of ten overall.

I also think Yates deserved all of his wins. Several guys bested him in a couple of poses (Nasser and Levrone in front biceps for instance), but he soundly whipped everyone in the majority of the compulsories IMO. Fancy dancing doesn't whip superiority in the prejudging.
 
That would be the one yes.. taken from Blood and Guts...
 
This thread was an oldie but a goody, wasn't it?

Anyway, Yates did have some symetry problems, especially after he tore his bicep, but nobody's perfect. Look at Coleman's mediocre calves, abs that never matched up to Wheeler's when they were both at their peak, and his weird looking lats. Yet many say he's the best ever.

But Yates obviously did have good genetics in several bodyparts. I mean, you can't get much more genetic than calves, forearms, and lat shape and he had the best of all 3 in his day. I've also heard that pictures never did him justice. I read that Shawn Ray looks shitty in person and great in pictures, but Dorian looked better in person.
 
Not knocking Flex in any way shape or form. Trust me dude is a genetic freak, but perhaps if he trained like Dorian he might have won a Sandow or two or three.
 
i think the thing i admire about dorian would have to be the training intensity and TECHNIQUE he used when training all he movements were textbook. A lot could learn from it. My hats off to the man..... :supercool
 
he said himself that he just had average genetics but outworked everyone else to the top.
 
pgerardone said:
Sorry to say but training does not have much to do with who becomes Mr. Olympia. Dorian clearly trained harder then most and was an intelligent bodybuilder. But the number one thing that separates the top pros from others is an unusually good reaction to anabolics. You probably train harder then most pros do or at least as hard. These top guys just turn into freaks when anabolics are introduced in their regime. As for Dorian having good genetics, he of course did not have bad genetics. But personally I never liked his physique and never thought he was a good representative of the sport. He was huge and hard but not at all pleasant to look at. He was down right ugly. Ronnie is bigger then Dorian ever was but at least he has a body the flows together well. When I looked at Dorian what I saw were huge body parts stuck together without a semblance of a pleasant shape. I really believe, and of course this is my opinion, that Dorian was the worst Mr. Olympia ever. Of course you must take into consideration the time frame as you can not compare todays Mr. Olympia to Lee Haney. But taken in the context of the time period I really think Dorian was the poorest Mr. Olympia ever chosen.
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Lets not forget that Dorian also retired before the SYNTHOL Era in bodybuilding , Dorian always looked hard and beat his competitors in 9 out of 10 poses. If anyone wants to talk about someone who should have lost in the MR. Olympia go back to 2 years ago Coleman Vs. Cutler . Coleman doesn't have the all around hard look dorian had in his prime , coleman looks bulky and smooth and what the hell is up with those retarded abs and lats this guy has. Also if you dont think those smooth body parts on coleman aren't loaded with synthol your crazy. As for Dorian being the poorest Mr Olympia ever chosen , he forced Lee Haney into retirement by beating him in the physique round at the 91 Olympia. The only time he ever had a chance at losing in the olympia was during injury years like 96 where he nearly died 6 weeks out from the olympia. Put him next to any one from his era he Dominated Levrone , sonbaty , wheeler , and shawn ray in 9 out of 10 poses and was more consistent then any of them. He never lost a competition after he became mr. o unlike ronnie coleman who should be 4 time Mr. Olympia with Cutler being the current reigning Mr. O. Dorian also never had Weider put out a flex magazine with the person taking 2nd place ( Jay Cutler) Titled MR .Olympia ?

As for him winning in the worst era ever in bodybuilding , this is without a doubt the stupidest comment i have ever seen posted. All the experts had said for years that dorian won olympias when competition had never been stronger . Unlike his predacessors dorian had to compete with 10 guys who had awesome physiques not 2 like in the schwartzanegger / Haney era's.
 
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yatesolympia said:
Lets not forget that Dorian also retired before the SYNTHOL Era in bodybuilding , Dorian always looked hard and beat his competitors in 9 out of 10 poses. If anyone wants to talk about someone who should have lost in the MR. Olympia go back to 2 years ago Coleman Vs. Cutler . Coleman doesn't have the all around hard look dorian had in his prime , coleman looks bulky and smooth and what the hell is up with those retarded abs and lats this guy has. Also if you dont think those smooth body parts on coleman aren't loaded with synthol your crazy. As for Dorian being the poorest Mr Olympia ever chosen , he forced Lee Haney into retirement by beating him in the physique round at the 91 Olympia. The only time he ever had a chance at losing in the olympia was during injury years like 96 where he nearly died 6 weeks out from the olympia. Put him next to any one from his era he Dominated Levrone , sonbaty , wheeler , and shawn ray in 9 out of 10 poses and was more consistent then any of them. He never lost a competition after he became mr. o unlike ronnie coleman who should be 4 time Mr. Olympia with Cutler being the current reigning Mr. O. Dorian also never had Weider put out a flex magazine with the person taking 2nd place ( Jay Cutler) Titled MR .Olympia ?

As for him winning in the worst era ever in bodybuilding , this is without a doubt the stupidest comment i have ever seen posted. All the experts had said for years that dorian won olympias when competition had never been stronger . Unlike his predacessors dorian had to compete with 10 guys who had awesome physiques not 2 like in the schwartzanegger / Haney era's.
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wow.. you are a yates expert :)
 
I think the thing I liked about dorian is how he shut his mouth, worked his ass off, showed up and killed everyone in competition and went home without saying a word. This is why he was called the myth!! I think he may have been the hardest working bb'er of all time!!
 
guldukat said:
So I think, definitely, Yates had well above-average genetics. Someone with average genetics wouldn't weigh 257 at 5'10" without a 50" waist to match.
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This is a poorly worded statement. :) I weigh about 255 at 6'1" and have a 38" waist. I'm a fatty. I'm sure there are more people with average genetics that can weigh this much. I've never even touched juice. ;) I agree with everything else you said.
 
If they ddint have amazing genetics they would even be high ranking amatuers.. and yes genetics INCLUDE your bodies response to drugs.

Things like skeletal structure (cant get big if your body cant handle heavy weights)... natural hormone production, natural growth rates..

all these are genetic factors..

One thing MANY of you are forgetting.. Steroids only amplify what you already have..

They CANNOT make something out of nothing.
 
i always used to think shawn ray should have won the olympia back in those days...he definelty has a more "good looking" aspect to him. and then in july i was in victoria station in london and i walked past dorian yates wearing a cut off shirt (with some other bb). and i was like FUCKING HELL!! he was absolutely massive. and not only that, but strirated too. and that is at a stage where he's known to be considerably smaller.
and yeah, i've heard off various lads down the gym he parties like an animal these days. nice guy though, i had a brief chat with him.
i'd say he's got good genetics but a lot of it is balls to the wall training and aas response.
 
scriptfactory said:
This is a poorly worded statement. :) I weigh about 255 at 6'1" and have a 38" waist. I'm a fatty. I'm sure there are more people with average genetics that can weigh this much. I've never even touched juice. ;) I agree with everything else you said.
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I am about 257-261 and am only 5'9. My waist is 36. I'm got some fat too, but I've also have never touched juice. I would like to though.
 
nobody has ever been as big as Yates with his conditioning. Ronnie onstage is a lardass compared to Yates onstage. Yates was the best-conditioned monster of all time. Nobody has matched him in that regard.
 
Dorian might not have been the most symetrical BB of all time, but he is still my favourite. Mainly coz of his dicipline and training intensity, like when he injured his shoulder, thigh, and biceps before 94 Mr O and still won!!! I also think he had the best back in his time as Mr O, and lets not forget another thing, he is the only Mr O who didnt live in US.

Mick
 
Dorian has wonderful genetics, but isnt as asthetically pleasing as say shawn ray or flex wheeler, his vasularity is very lacking...Dorian seems to be big jointed and big boned, so his muscles dont puff out from the joint as directly as someone who has small joints like flex...

Either way dorian is a genetic freak, he may not be the most pleasing BB to look at but alot of other factors im sure tie in on these contests
 
I don't like his look. His body is very rugged and to me looks unsymetrical. He's massive, no doubt, but I think Nasser, Ray, and Flex had better physiques than Dorian and should have beat him in at least two of those olympias
 
Let me say Dorian has been my favorite pro since I started lifting. But, with as much juice as ALL pros take, aren't "genetics" kind of a moot point? Dorian himself said that All things being equal (drugs), it was his training that set him apart from the other pros.
 
mrhoon said:
Let me say Dorian has been my favorite pro since I started lifting. But, with as much juice as ALL pros take, aren't "genetics" kind of a moot point? Dorian himself said that All things being equal (drugs), it was his training that set him apart from the other pros.
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Genetics are THE most important factor in professional bodybuilding. Genetics determine how your body responds to steroids. All things being equal (drugs) genetics separate the men from the boys. If genetics weren't important then everyone would look like Arnold Schwarzenegger or Ronnie Coleman provided they had enough drugs... which isn't possible.

I really don't believe that training is as important as many people think. I mean, Dillett had an awesome physique and his work ethic was worse than just about everyone on this boards... Genetics gave him his awesome physique. If he had worked harder then perhaps he would have been able to build a back, but perhaps he wouldn't have been able to. Markus Ruhl trains his triceps like a madman and to this day he has the worst triceps ever. :) His genetics limit his tricep's ability to grow. Hell, his girlfriend has better triceps than him.

The most important things to become a pro, in my opinion, are:

1) Genetics: THE most important factor.
2) Drugs & Diet: Both are just about equally important.
3) Training: Intensity, consistency, etc.
4) Everything else
 
scriptfactory said:
This is a poorly worded statement. :) I weigh about 255 at 6'1" and have a 38" waist. I'm a fatty. I'm sure there are more people with average genetics that can weigh this much. I've never even touched juice. ;) I agree with everything else you said.
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i can dig it

i'm 6'4" 270 with a 36" waist. i'm definitely an amateur, but i practice proper form, don't use juice (yet), and push myself hard slangin' iron. Italian heritage won't let me give up and good old irish genetics makes bulking easy =)
 
These Days Genetics Are A Small Part Of A Body Builders Shape .this Is Due To The Hgh Factor Involed.hgh Breaks The Genetic Cap On Any One Who Uses Enough .just 4 Iu's Ed Will Cause You To Grow New Muscle Cells In Your Body .noW Dont Get Me Worng !If You Have Great Genes ,they Show For Sure ,but Hgh And The Drugs Today Will Make Almost Any One A Monster For Sure .its Just What You Are Willing To Do To Get There !!!!
 
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Genetics? Compared to ///everyone/// else in the world, ///all/// pro BBers have ///one-in-ten-million/// genetics for muscle size, shape, and proportion. The top winners have ///one-in-a-hundred-million/// genetics. If you mean to compare genetics between the BBers only, well, that's easy: Flex's genetics make him look like Flex, Dorian's genetics make him look like Dorian, etc, etc, etc. They each train(ed) in whatever way worked best for them and took(take) whatever food, supplements, and drugs work best for them, so: Whoever you think looks best, -that's- who you think has the best genetics.
 
I can't believe this is STILL going...
 
here is a pic of him as a teenager

now here is when he was olympia material


think there is a little difference?


shit genetics

trained hard, supplemented right, and ate like an animal
 
I don't know anything about his genetics....but he's one of my favorite all time bodybuilders and when he used to go up on stage, people used to stare in disbelief
 
Genetics weren't very good, but he busted his ass and OWNED the gym. Through in an incredible diet and mass amounts of drugs and he became an Olympian.
 
Its called he raised the bar with his gh and slin use. His back was feared. Now many can match it with better shape. Cutler, Coleman, Cormier, Martinez, and the list goes on. Kinda like when Arnold set the bar by using the most dbol.
 
I am suprised at the Mods using the "most drugs" crutch. Dissappointing:worried: Dorian was meticulus in every aspect of his approach. His reaction to HIS style of training and HIS use of whatever drugs he used were a perfect combination to elicite the result of being the best he could be. That happen to put him in front of all those bodybuilders who have "better genetics" in the minds of the judges.

Second thing is No one on this board has a damn clue what Dorian, Arnold, or any other of these named bodybuilders use in the way of drugs. So making the ignorant statements in regards to "they just use more drugs" is a huge mental mistake.

The depth of bodybuilding when Dorian was champ was huge. Flex, Shawn, Cormier, Nasser, Jay, Ronnie, etc... Dorian did not win by luck or drugs. He was consistantly better at the whole picture than any of those guys ever were.
I do not disagree that for those of you who like the pretty physique that you might prefer the build of a Flex, shawn, or dexter type, but better genetics.. MEH NO.

How dare anyone on this board attribute success to "the most drugs" especially any high ranking contributor.
Thats my rant
 
I STILL can't believe this thread is alive after 7.5 years!! lol
 
dc35 said:
How dare anyone on this board attribute success to "the most drugs" especially any high ranking contributor.
Thats my rant
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In actual fact the contributor used the phrase "mass amounts of drugs", not "the most drugs".

I'm sure he was right in saying that Dorian used a lot of drugs, but that's not exactly saying he used "the most drugs".
 
if you look close at yates body , his calves his thighs his back .
He was a genetic freak .
Someone posted a picture of yates as a teen punk ,LOL everyone looked like a skinny kid when they were 14 becuase they were just that kids.
To judge someones genetics you must look at them after puberty and see genteically what their endocrine system outputted hormonaly for growth

Even if you look at yates in 90-92 he was a beast , it was only the last few years from 94-97 did he go crazy with it.
but in his early days as a pro he was one tough act to follow
 
SSAlexSS said:
Dorian Yates multiple Mr. Olympia winner trained like a monster, was he a monster?
Flex Wheeler is a genetic mutant who gets far without training at even a small fraction of Dorian Intensity, which brings me toi a question:


How good were dorian yates' genetics?
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I think he had very good genetics but had to work hard to get where he did.
Believe me,,this didnt come easy.
 
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