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How does this sound for fist cycle
- Thread starter XJ220
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Looks good,and if diet is in order,you will blow up.If sust is the last injected product,wait 3 weeks to start clomid,not 2.Good luck.
Bobber
New member
seems to me more of a second cycle dosage but lately there has been a tendancy for people to go with higher dosages. If I were you I'd do this:
Test- 250 mg a week for 8 weeks
Deca- 300 mg a week for 8 weeks
Dbol- 25-30 mg ED for the first 4 weeks
Clomid 3 weeks after last shot
It is your first cycle and you need to gauge how your body reacts to these drugs before jump in head first.
Test- 250 mg a week for 8 weeks
Deca- 300 mg a week for 8 weeks
Dbol- 25-30 mg ED for the first 4 weeks
Clomid 3 weeks after last shot
It is your first cycle and you need to gauge how your body reacts to these drugs before jump in head first.
Looks good for gaining muscle, but I will be the little angel on your right shoulder that reminds you of your safety.
When running test you also need to run finasteride(proscar/propecia). I don't know if you read the most recent post about prostate cancer, but it was a good one. If you haven't I highly suggest finding it and reading it.
Now, I don't know if you are concerned with hairloss, but if you are running deca and finasteride is a bad idea. If you aren't worried about loosing the hair. Just add finasteride and you're good to go.
If you are worried about loosing your mop either drop the deca and add eq, so you can use finasteride, or drop the dbol and sust.
So here are 3 ideas for safer cycles: (My first was deca @ 400 mg a week. I gained 25 lbs and kept everything.)
1. Go with what you have add some finasteride and pray you aren't prone to hairloss.
2. Eq wk 1-8
sust wk 1-8
dbol 30mg ed wk 1-4(if it were me I'd drop the dbol and add a little prop week 1-3. I'd also run prop week 8-11 since it gets out of your system so quick and you can start the clomid 3 days after your last inject. That way you don't have to play guessing games about when to start the clomid.)
3.
*** Deca only @ 400mg a week or maybe add some anavar wk 2-8. Most people see really good gains with this on there first cycle. Plus, it wont make you loose hair. Plus, it wont give you prostate cancer. Plus, you don't have to purchase anti-e's. Plus, you'll keep all your gains. Plus... you get the idea. Some people wont agree with me, but within my circle of friends 4 out of 6 guys gained above 20 lbs on their first cycle(deca only) the other two gained around 15.
If you do go with the sust make sure you get some anti-e's like nolva and or proviron/liquidex.
Hope this helps
When running test you also need to run finasteride(proscar/propecia). I don't know if you read the most recent post about prostate cancer, but it was a good one. If you haven't I highly suggest finding it and reading it.
Now, I don't know if you are concerned with hairloss, but if you are running deca and finasteride is a bad idea. If you aren't worried about loosing the hair. Just add finasteride and you're good to go.
If you are worried about loosing your mop either drop the deca and add eq, so you can use finasteride, or drop the dbol and sust.
So here are 3 ideas for safer cycles: (My first was deca @ 400 mg a week. I gained 25 lbs and kept everything.)
1. Go with what you have add some finasteride and pray you aren't prone to hairloss.
2. Eq wk 1-8
sust wk 1-8
dbol 30mg ed wk 1-4(if it were me I'd drop the dbol and add a little prop week 1-3. I'd also run prop week 8-11 since it gets out of your system so quick and you can start the clomid 3 days after your last inject. That way you don't have to play guessing games about when to start the clomid.)
3.
*** Deca only @ 400mg a week or maybe add some anavar wk 2-8. Most people see really good gains with this on there first cycle. Plus, it wont make you loose hair. Plus, it wont give you prostate cancer. Plus, you don't have to purchase anti-e's. Plus, you'll keep all your gains. Plus... you get the idea. Some people wont agree with me, but within my circle of friends 4 out of 6 guys gained above 20 lbs on their first cycle(deca only) the other two gained around 15.If you do go with the sust make sure you get some anti-e's like nolva and or proviron/liquidex.
Hope this helps
Sir Studly
New member
I would have to agree with Bobber. I think that those dosages are a bit high for a 1st cycle. Also, Dbol for 6 weeks will be way too harsh on the liver. 25mg ED for 4 weeks should be fine. My 1st cycle was 200-300mg Deca / 250-375mg Sust for 8 weeks and I gained 16 pounds. Rather take it easy on your system 1st cycle. This will also give you the opportunity to learn how your boby reacts to these AS's, as well as learn more about AS in general.
russianguy
New member
cycle
Dear friend! "Cycle" means that you start small, then go up to peak and then gradually go down in dosage.Yours is NOT a cycle.It is something flat.You want to start with huge amount the first week.Your body will react to 250 mg of test and 200 mg of Deca a week.In 2-3 weeks when it adapts you can go up.
Be smart! It is just your first cycle, don'rt overdo things.
Dear friend! "Cycle" means that you start small, then go up to peak and then gradually go down in dosage.Yours is NOT a cycle.It is something flat.You want to start with huge amount the first week.Your body will react to 250 mg of test and 200 mg of Deca a week.In 2-3 weeks when it adapts you can go up.
Be smart! It is just your first cycle, don'rt overdo things.
serge said:
Good call, I didn't notice that.
I don't think a first timer should combine deca and test. Both are very different classes of drugs. Use them seperately to see how you react to each one.
I'm against stacking for a first cycle but If you insist then either do sust/dbol or deca/winny. Just my 2 cents.
