How does this look??

[thebadguy54]

I'm getting my shit together for my 4th cycle...

What do you guys think of this?

1-16 Test E 200mg EW
1-14 EQ 400mg EW
1-20 Liquidex 0.5 mg EOD
5-18 HCG 250-500iu EW
10-16 Anavar 40mg ED
18-21 Clomid 50mg ED
18-21 Dermacrine Sustain

I'm 31 y/o, 5'9", 205 (was 212 on last cycle) and have been training for 16 + years.

Cycle history is:
1st cycle - Jan 07 - 10 Weeks Test E @ 500mg EW
2nd cycle - July 07 - 12 Weeks Test @ 350mg and EQ at 350-400mg EW
3rd cycle - Jan 08 - 8 weeks Test E and 6 weeks Var at 40mg ED

 

[advanced-stealth]

Looks fine bro, but I would change the PCT and start it a couple weeks after your last shot of Test.

 

[thebadguy54]

Looks fine bro, but I would change the PCT and start it a couple weeks after your last shot of Test.

Typo. Thanks, I fixed it.

 

[littleb]

I like the way it looks, I would bump the test up if it were my cycle, but thats me.. I would also add nolva into my pct.. but i like that cycle... kind of a lean bulker..

 

[Nelson Montana]

It's a month longer than I like in terms of recovery. I also feel one can;t sustain intense training for 16 weeks and if you aren;t training balls to the walls you aren't making the most of the cycle. And of course I'd throw some UNLEASHED in there PC. Other than that it should be fine.

 

[enacer420nj]

Basicall the same cycle im on 400cyp/400eq with var at the end....You could up the test some def helps out everything..im probably gonna quit the eq around week 12 and the test at 14 like nelson said it will help recovery....hcg mid cycle is also another good idea,before the HCG I didnt even wanna kiss my girl just pound her pussy into oblivion...now ill at least let her sit next to me on the couch

 

[thebadguy54]

It's a month longer than I like in terms of recovery. I also feel one can;t sustain intense training for 16 weeks and if you aren;t training balls to the walls you aren't making the most of the cycle. And of course I'd throw some UNLEASHED in there PC. Other than that it should be fine.

I don't like the idea of being on that long either but a lot of guys say you need to run EQ for a minimum of 14 weeks... and test 2 weeks past the EQ.

Maybe I'll do 12 EQ and 14 weeks test like enancer.

 

[GUARDIAN]

looks good. perhaps bump the test up a little unless u r gyno sensitive.

 

[702daswoll1]

Everything looks good except the liquidex. Use it as needed and as needed only. You need the androgens for the cycle to be effective. Use it when you feel sides like excess bloat and nipple soreness/itchiness.

 

[thebadguy54]

looks good. perhaps bump the test up a little unless u r gyno sensitive.

Last time I used Test and EQ I got a small lump after week 7 but I wasn't using any Anti-E/AI at all.

 

[thebadguy54]

Everything looks good except the liquidex. Use it as needed and as needed only. You need the androgens for the cycle to be effective. Use it when you feel sides like excess bloat and nipple soreness/itchiness.

Hey bro, how's it goin'?

I know what your saying but I'd rather use a bit too much then get a lump and have to use Letro again. Last time I tried the "as needed" method, I got a lump. It was nothing, nothing, nothing for 7 weeks... then boom, lump. It's a fine line I guess.

 

[xrsist]

looks good bro, if you cant/wont bump test dose maybe bump eq dose a bit

 

[thebadguy54]

looks good bro, if you cant/wont bump test dose maybe bump eq dose a bit

Maybe I'll start out with 250mg and take it from there.

What do you think of the length? Is 16 weeks too long?

 

[enacer420nj]

Maybe I'll start out with 250mg and take it from there.

What do you think of the length? Is 16 weeks too long?

ive run eq on 250 and 400 test...i like 400 test better its better for libido and overall sense of well being....you could shorten to 14 weeks, either way a few weeks shots of hcg at 250iu twice a week is good mid cycle to plump of the balls

 

[thebadguy54]

ive run eq on 250 and 400 test...i like 400 test better its better for libido and overall sense of well being....you could shorten to 14 weeks, either way a few weeks shots of hcg at 250iu twice a week is good mid cycle to plump of the balls

Maybe I'll go 400/400 like you did.

 

[xrsist]

Maybe I'll start out with 250mg and take it from there.

What do you think of the length? Is 16 weeks too long?

iv seen eq used at 16 weeks and produce better gains than when used for 12 weeks

 

[thebadguy54]

iv seen eq used at 16 weeks and produce better gains than when used for 12 weeks

If anything I'd go 16 weeks with the test and 14 weeks eq.

Do you think there will be much of a difference between using eq for 12 or 14 weeks?

16 is out of the question since I'd have to run the test for 18 and that's waaay longer than I need to be on.

 

[enacer420nj]

If anything I'd go 16 weeks with the test and 14 weeks eq.

Do you think there will be much of a difference between using eq for 12 or 14 weeks?

16 is out of the question since I'd have to run the test for 18 and that's waaay longer than I need to be on.

No bro you aint gonna see much difference in those two weeks besides a harder recovery

 

[thebadguy54]

No bro you aint gonna see much difference in those two weeks besides a harder recovery

That's what I thought.

I'll go 14 test @ 250 and 12 eq @ 400.

 

[thebadguy54]

looks good. perhaps bump the test up a little unless u r gyno sensitive.

1-14 Test E @ 250mg EW
1-12 EQ @ 400mg EW
1-18 Liquidex @ 0.5mg EOD
5-16 HCG @ 500iu EW
10-16 Anavar @ 40mg ED
16-19 Clomid @ 50mg ED
16-20 Dermacrine Sustain

 

[GUARDIAN]

Looks like a winner!

1-14 Test E @ 250mg EW
1-12 EQ @ 400mg EW
1-18 Liquidex @ 0.5mg EOD
5-16 HCG @ 500iu EW
10-16 Anavar @ 40mg ED
16-19 Clomid @ 50mg ED
16-20 Dermacrine Sustain