How do you know when a domestic...

[DJ_UFO]

Delivery is controlled or not?? Do they dress like reg USPS guys, like cops, what is the difference?

(I posted this in the bb and the law forum but nobody answered)

 

[DIVISION]

Delivery is controlled or not?? Do they dress like reg USPS guys, like cops, what is the difference?

(I posted this in the bb and the law forum but nobody answered)

Controlled......you get the Postal Inspector and yes he does look different from a regular mailman.....he asks you to sign for the package.......

LE working with the PI are doing this together, the PI is the tool and the cops are waiting outside for you to sign the shit and then they rush you and you're basically implicated in the crime. If you have any common sense, you will observe and be able to tell what's what and whether to accept or tell them to fuck off because you don't recognize the sender.




DIV

 

[40 water]

get your source to send it without arival signature

 

[massel]

I take it you had this happen to you division, i have had the same mail carrier for as long as i can remember, i would think if there was a sting the feds would be smart enough to use the same carrier that you have been use to seeing.

 

[Breeze]

I take it you had this happen to you division, i have had the same mail carrier for as long as i can remember, i would think if there was a sting the feds would be smart enough to use the same carrier that you have been use to seeing.

I have worked in the shipping industry for a long time and it is highly unlikely that a mail carrier, UPS or Fed Ex driver will knowingly be part of a controlled delivery for a number of reasons. A delivery person does not have to be a part of a law enforcement operation, that is not their job. I know of one instance where a driver delivered a package and the house he delivered to was later raided because the package was full of meth. The cops and loss prevention had let the pack be loaded and delivered, but the loader and driver had no clue what was going on and the driver was very pissed and the union tore the company a new ass for putting him in that situation. People who deliver the same route day after day do not want to be looking over their shoulders for people who think they are to blame when they get busted, playing cop is not part of their job. Plus, most delivery drivers really don't care what people are shipping as long as it is not hazardous. A controlled delivery will usually consist of a cop who is dressed the part and given a company vehicle to drive by someone in loss prevention who is working with them. If a regular driver is involved then it would be because they wanted to be and their supervisors allowed them to. Of the people I work with, I can't imagine one of them who would do that and anyone who was forced to would be in a great position to sue the company.

 

[DJ_UFO]

I have worked in the shipping industry for a long time and it is highly unlikely that a mail carrier, UPS or Fed Ex driver will knowingly be part of a controlled delivery for a number of reasons. A delivery person does not have to be a part of a law enforcement operation, that is not their job. I know of one instance where a driver delivered a package and the house he delivered to was later raided because the package was full of meth. The cops and loss prevention had let the pack be loaded and delivered, but the loader and driver had no clue what was going on and the driver was very pissed and the union tore the company a new ass for putting him in that situation. People who deliver the same route day after day do not want to be looking over their shoulders for people who think they are to blame when they get busted, playing cop is not part of their job. Plus, most delivery drivers really don't care what people are shipping as long as it is not hazardous. A controlled delivery will usually consist of a cop who is dressed the part and given a company vehicle to drive by someone in loss prevention who is working with them. If a regular driver is involved then it would be because they wanted to be and their supervisors allowed them to. Of the people I work with, I can't imagine one of them who would do that and anyone who was forced to would be in a great position to sue the company.

Those are private carriers. But what about USPS?

 

[DIVISION]

I take it you had this happen to you division, i have had the same mail carrier for as long as i can remember, i would think if there was a sting the feds would be smart enough to use the same carrier that you have been use to seeing.

Hasn't happened to me personally.......but I've read Rick Collins' book.....

He details what's what.




DIV

 

[Breeze]

Those are private carriers. But what about USPS?

A regular mail carrier can not be forced to take part in a controlled delivery, which is a law enforcement operation. He/she can refuse for a number of reasons, safety being the primary reason. They can say something along the line of "I'm a mailman, not a cop, leave me out of it". Controlled deliveries are the responsibility of postal inspectors and police. I'm not saying regular carriers don't participate in controlled deliveries, some do, but they are not obligated to.

 

[massel]

so in a nutshell dont sign for anything pretty much