marcu_s said:and is there any supplements u think that have given u a change in your offperiods compared to other ones?
halfcenturian said:Off ?....... You want to know about off ? ..........I don't EVER go off ! ! !
I don't need no STINKING OFF! ! !
I go back on HRT.![]()
8and20 said:me 2 but i was answering the question with reference to the times i went off.

marcu_s said:how do you guys feel when u r off steroids......do you feel like crap and just want to go on a cycle as soon as possible, or do you feel like its ALMOST as usual?
and is there any supplements u think that have given u a change in your offperiods compared to other ones?
xrsist said:didnt know you were on hrt bro..self medicated hrt to be precise
your signature is very misleading i might add "dont be afraid to put on some fat to put muscle on" then you have a photo of you at about 0.5% BF..your killing me....lol. i just too many people are worried about the bf when on cycle. i think adding a little bit of bf is a good sign in that you are taking in enuf calories to gain muscle.
eddymerckx said:like a mere mortal....i will never try and leap a tall building when not on
8and20 said:help me edit my sig bro...how would u phrase it?
xrsist said:didnt know you were on hrt bro..
your signature is very misleading i might add "dont be afraid to put on some fat to put muscle on" then you have a photo of you at about 0.5% BF..![]()
halfcenturian said:Makes you want to puke, huh? I think he's making fun of us over 50ers.

abolish the weak said:I've gotten smarter about things, and I can stay just as motivated when I'm off but I have to change my thinking and the way I train. There comes a point where muscle gained becomes finite, and you wont gain anything else as long as your off cycle. If your walking around at a fairly lean 220lbs at 5'9" when your off cycle, guess what my friend? you've probably gone the distance. BUT, it does not mean you cannot work on density, seperation, and hardness. Yes I said hardness, even off cycle. When I'm off it's all about squeeze, contraction, time under tension, pump. It's all about getting the most out of that set of 10 reps and making that one set feel like 5 sets. You squeeze every rep like your muscles are going to pop. When I'm on cycle I will do alternate db curls w/ as high as 80 lbs, off cycle the heaviest I'll go is 35's or 40's but more reps and more squeeze. This does 2 things, it keeps you from injuring yourself, and it also trains your mind to train harder off cycle than on. Training heavier doesnt nessecarily mean your training harder. And after your into bodybuilding and the juice long enough, and get your first big couple injuries, you'll begin to realize the longjevity of the sport is what is the most important thing.
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