how do i block dht in the prostate when using nandrolone and test

[meat19]

i am concerned about prostate enlargement and cancer. i am going to use test suspension with nandrolone phenylprop. what can i take to lower dht in the prostate.

 

[sk*]

Supposedly deca will help the prostate, although many consider this a myth. You can either do deca alone, or run the test and run proscar with it. Don't run proscar if you are gonna do deca.

-sk

 

[AustinTX]

finasteride or dutasteride will block DHT (not all of it). finasteride brand names are 1mg Propecia for hair loss, and 5mg Proscar for BPH, many also take Saw Palmetto as an adjunct. do a couple of searches and that stuff and you should find everything you need.

 

[Tigrones]

Yup, finasteride with Saw Palmetto together should do the job

 

[geoboy]

Propecia, saw palmetto, nettles, or anything else that blocks 5AR will make nandrolone a hair killer. if you don't have any predisposition, no prob. but if you do, watch out.

 

[sk*]

Wouldn't take finasteride with nandrolone ...

-sk

 

[AustinTX]

Wouldn't take finasteride with nandrolone ...

People say this *all* the time (about tren too). Never seen a good explanation. Why do you recommend to skip the finasteride?

 

[Nelson Montana]

Yep. DHT blockers with Deca will kill your hair. But Deca doesn't increase DHT so what's your worry? Any DHT blocker will also affect libido and increase your chances of getting gyno. I'd just drop the Deca.

 

[AustinTX]

Yep. DHT blockers with Deca will kill your hair. But Deca doesn't increase DHT so what's your worry? Any DHT blocker will also affect libido and increase your chances of getting gyno. I'd just drop the Deca.

I thought that the reduced DHT could make the infamous deca-dick worse. But why/how will it kill your hair???

 

[sk*]

People say this *all* the time (about tren too). Never seen a good explanation. Why do you recommend to skip the finasteride?

Like Nelson said it will make you bald. I had no problems with Tren/Finasteride combo though ...

-sk

 

[macrophage69alpha]

estrogen is more highly implicated in prostate problems.. worry about that..

not much research on progestins in that aspect??? so...

 

[Frackal]

I thought that the reduced DHT could make the infamous deca-dick worse. But why/how will it kill your hair???

As I understand it, finasteride inhibits the 5-alpha reductase enzyme, (the same enzyme that converts test to DHT) converts nandrolone do di-hydro-nandrolone (DHN)... DHN is less antagonistic to the hair, though more prevalently binding to the scalp (?)... if you block 5-ar, the nandrolone does not convert which causes the more active chemical to wreak havoc on the hairline, as the precurser to DHN is worse for the hair than even DHT...

This is from memory at 11pm so it could be off, but I think it's close.

 

[macrophage69alpha]

note- there are at least two 5ar enzyme types .. and finasteride and saw palmetto have different enzyme based inhibition.

 

[Frackal]

macro, do you have any clue if topical copper as an anti androgen would cause problems when being used with deca? i cant seem to find exact info on how it effects it's anti-androgen properties

 

[Frackal]

Nevermind, answered my own q... it does...

 

[geoboy]

macro, do you have any clue if topical copper as an anti androgen would cause problems when being used with deca? i cant seem to find exact info on how it effects it's anti-androgen properties

Frack- I'm not sure copper peptides act as anti-androgens, the theorized mechanism is as an anti-inflamatory at the bulb. Also, even if the mechanism is anti-androgen, topically would seem to be ok as no systemic inhibition of the 5AR mediated nandrolone-DHN conversion. just a competitor to bind to scalp androgen receptors (like spiro).

I'll defer to the docs and chemists and would love to hear opinions. buffdoc?