How did Noah fit all the animals into the ark? Serious question...

[Big Brother Val]

Kinda going on with the "first baby on Earth" thread... how did Noah get all those animals, insects, etc. onto the boat? Keeping in mind there are still species of animals we've never seen before... and all kinds of species that are now extinct, was he supposed to get two of every single type of animal that has ever existed on that boat?

That's the deal right?

Now... for anyone who doesn't believe in evolotuion, you have to say that he either got 2 of EVERY SINGLE ANIMAL EVER onto the same boat, without any lions or other predators eating any of the other animals, or he got two of each basic animal, and they EVOLVED into the many different species... such as various species of frog, from the two frogs Noah took, etc.

See where I'm going here? Because I'm getting confused as hell just typing it.

So either the animals evolved into other species eventually (which I thought took millions of years) or he just gathered every animal in the history of Earth, even some that lived thousands of miles from where he was, on lands that weren't even discovered in his day.

Can anyone help me on this?

 

[KnoXville]

I would also like to know how Jesus, or whatever other clown decided to float thy boat, fed the carnivore animals. Without the nutrition from other animal protein; lions, tigers, wolf's .. Would all have starved. So was jebus packing some extra beef in the deep freeze? or were some extra feed animals taken also. Thanks.

 

[Jimsbbc]

Here's an interesting link for what it is worth:

http://www.pilgrimpromo.com/WAR/

 

[Big Brother Val]

I would also like to know how Jesus, or whatever other clown decided to float thy boat, fed the carnivore animals. Without the nutrition from other animal protein; lions, tigers, wolf's .. Would all have starved. So was jebus packing some extra beef in the deep freeze? or were some extra feed animals taken also. Thanks.

That's what I'm saying... was it one of those "God made it possible" things?

And if so, why not just forget the damn boat, screw flooding the planet... just kill everyone, make them vanish, keep the animals where they were, and give Noah a break.

I'm not downing religion, mind you. But some people say the theory of evolution is so far-fetched that you have to be stupid to believe it... yet THIS STUFF makes total sense?

A 900 year old man builds a giant boat, and loads on animals he has absolutely no access to, that miraculously don't try to eat him while he's gathering Bengal Tigers with what... his bare hands?

And THIS is ACCEPTIBLE?

 

[Mad4Iron]

Beefaroni it was Knoxville,God told me."let there be chef boy'r de"

Cute story I guess for the kids,but a fucking aircraft carrier couldn't carry a 10th of the species on the earth.(and I'm being generous).

Mad

 

[XBiker]

It's all folklore like the rest of the bible.

Are you questioning your faith, BBV?

Bad stuff, brother.

 

[Big Brother Val]

Beefaroni it was Knoxville,God told me."let there be chef boy'r de"

Cute story I guess for the kids,but a fucking aircraft carrier couldn't carry a 10th of the species on the earth.(and I'm being generous).

Mad

I think the ark was the size of a small town or something.

(I'm trying to remember from when I was in church, and my teacher told me it was bigger than we could imagine)

 

[KnoXville]

Also, If the earth is a little over 6000 years old according to the bibble, then dinosaurs and man must have coexisted together. There would have been more land or wilderness before the flood, so dinosaurs and man did coexist. So did brother Noah take them onto the boat with the other animals? Maybe just the babies then, as they take up less space, eat less, smell less and wouldn't decide to munch on a Noah sandwich. Thanks again.

 

[Big Brother Val]

It's all folklore like the rest of the bible.

Are you questioning your faith, BBV?

Bad stuff, brother.

Nah. I don't really have faith to begin with. I know there has to be SOMETHING bigger than our little planet here... but I don't understand how some people can believe completely in this kind of thing.

Those same people discredit science and the Theory of Evolution because there's "no way" that could happen.

Yet this ark could?

 

[XBiker]

Also, If the earth is a little over 6000 years old according to the bibble, then dinosaurs and man must have coexisted together. There would have been more land or wilderness before the flood, so dinosaurs and man did coexist. So did brother Noah take them onto the boat with the other animals? Maybe just the babies then, as they take up less space, eat less, smell less and wouldn't decide to munch on a Noah sandwich. Thanks again.

You see Knox, that's the problem. The timelines in the bible V. carbon dating don't jive.

Science can't prove the existance of god, since there is no quantitative measurement of his existance.

You either have faith or you don't. It's a zero or one, there is no .5 on this scale.

 

[Mad4Iron]

Knoxville;Debate aside,I want to fuck your avatar.

A small town might carry 1/4 of the species again being generous and probably talking out my ass.

Come on,think about it,ALL the species on the earth right now,no transitional species,no evolution and several HUNDRED new species of birds and insects and plants being described in just fucking Costa Rica every damn year.
All on a damn boat,shit I wonder if Noah had the eqivualant of the Disney cruise line microbiologists

Mad

 

[XBiker]

Nah. I don't really have faith to begin with. I know there has to be SOMETHING bigger than our little planet here... but I don't understand how some people can believe completely in this kind of thing.

Those same people discredit science and the Theory of Evolution because there's "no way" that could happen.

Yet this ark could?

How can people believe that Americans are evil and that all their problems are the fault of the lust loving, money grubbing, Americans?

Because they are taught that.

Keep in mind that the bible is merely a written volume of text. It is man that has elevated this text to the "almighty" level.

Evolution negates the need for a diety as the bible defines it. Although the bigger question is who created the creator?

(edited for grammar)

 

[Big Brother Val]

Here's an interesting link for what it is worth:

http://www.pilgrimpromo.com/WAR/

I'm not quite sure what to make of that. Never heard of it. Neither has my mother, and she is one REALLY religious woman.

 

[KnoXville]

Science can't prove the existance of god, since there is no quantitative measurement of his existance.

You either have faith or you don't. It's a zero or one, there is no .5 on this scale.

There is also no quantitative evidence that there is a great sparkly midget with eight penises, a blazing afro and a sequence spandex jumpsuit whom calls the sky his crib. For all we know he could be guiding life on earth using his homemade Richard Simmons endorsed bowflex and / or Swedish made penis pump. I have no proof unfortunately, but blind faith right brother? so your going to have to take my word for it ya? Sounds like a plan.

Don't buy it? Then when you die, thy shalt be cast into the great Tuna snatch. If you don't happen to believe me then you can refer to my new best-selling book, 'The Holy Midget'. If something doesn't happen to sound right, just let me know tiger, and I will keep interpreting that shit until it sounds just dandy.

 

[Mad4Iron]

A friend in these debates put forth the question that our creator(for whatever that's worth),could be a "Branch manager" that had much less the power of the ones above him.

Instead of all powerful,could be as fucked as a teller that's PMS'ing

Mad

 

[Big Brother Val]

Knoxville;Debate aside,I want to fuck your avatar.

A small town might carry 1/4 of the species again being generous and probably talking out my ass.

Come on,think about it,ALL the species on the earth right now,no transitional species,no evolution and several HUNDRED new species of birds and insects and plants being described in just fucking Costa Rica every damn year.
All on a damn boat,shit I wonder if Noah had the eqivualant of the Disney cruise line microbiologists

Mad

I agree... if you click on the link above, it gives you some photos of what is supposed to be the remains of the ark... it's like 512 feet from front to back or something like that.

There are still species of animals we've never seen, nor heard of. And if people accept the fact that animals from the ark have evolved, they're accepting in part the theory of evolution, so for the sake of consistency, Noah HAD to take 2 of every single animal ever discovered, or yet to be discovered.

 

[Big Brother Val]

How can people believe that Americans are evil and that all their problems are the fault of the lust loving, money grubbing, Americans?

Because they are taught that.

Keep in mind that the bible is merely a written volume of text. It is man that has elevated this text to the "almighty" level.

Evolution negates the need for a diety at the bible defines it. Although the bigger question is who created the creator?

As far as who created the creator, that's one of those "we aren't meant to know" things, I think. You know, we aren't supposed to have the answers to any questions, but still believe in him and follow his word and all of that.

Now I'm not trying to make this an Atheist thread, or denounce any beliefs... I'm just trying to understand how the theory of evolution is so far fetched, but Noah's Ark is totally acceptible... aside from "having faith" that it's true, because a book was written about it 2 thousand years ago.

 

[Mad4Iron]

I think the elephants, the hippo and the damn giraffes put a dent in the plans.

And what about the Blue whales? "just follow behind the boat little buddy,no room at the inn for your big ass"

Fucking bullshit it is.

Mad

 

[KnoXville]

Noah HAD to take 2 of every single animal ever discovered, or yet to be discovered.

I figured it out. Noah, that smart bastard, must have also taken his avant guarde genome equipment. PBluescript vector creator, Polymerase chain reaction machine, PCR enzyme hosts with primers, subsequent bacteria for the termination enzymes, a mammalian expression kit and finally his pPCR-Script Amp plasmids.

God than send our hero the new DNA blueprints, out to the arc using the Beta-Dove e-mail system ([email protected]). That way he could take genetic copies of the said animals, and even those that didn't evolve yet, and later on with the help of Jebus (Jesus's microbiologist brother) he could use the fancy equipment and throw together some very dandy copies. Ah that Noah, such the clever rascal.

 

[Mad4Iron]

The fucking server crashed and the fucking Unicorns got the horn as well as the hard working miniorities

Summed it well Knox.

Mad

 

[Big Brother Val]

I figured it out. Noah, that smart bastard, must have also taken his avant guarde genome equipment. PBluescript vector creator, Polymerase chain reaction machine, PCR enzyme hosts with primers, subsequent bacteria for the termination enzymes, a mammalian expression kit and finally his pPCR-Script Amp plasmids.

God than send our hero the new DNA blueprints, out to the arc using the Beta-Dove e-mail system ([email protected]). That way he could take genetic copies of the said animals, and even those that didn't evolve yet, and later on with the help of Jebus (Jesus's microbiologist brother) he could use the fancy equipment and throw together some very dandy copies. Ah that Noah, such the clever rascal.

Aha... you're CLOSE... but you can't use the term "evolve" in your theory. Because remember, if you believe in God, you can't believe in "evolving", correct?

So he had to take them ALL. And somehow, the bears and tigers and lions didn't eat him.

And I'm not sure if all the water was salt water, or fresh water... because fresh water fish can't live in salt water... so maybe Noah had a big ass aquarium on the ship too.

I'm not really sure.

I haven't seen anyone who believes this post yet. I really am looking for answers to this. It's not meant to be bullshit... but when you sit and think about it... that's exactly what it sounds like, right?

And yet we cannot be related to primates, no matter what, because THAT is something that couldn't happen over millions of years?

 

[Mad4Iron]

BBV;I aint gonna tell you aout religion and God.Just My Opinion.Don't fuck no one over,don't hurt anyone and we'll be sitting drinking margaritas and smoking some great kine bud getting blow jobs from gorgeous broads that make great breakfasts.

If my dog aint allowed fuck it I'll burn with the whores,food can't be all that bad

Mad

 

[XBiker]

Aha... you're CLOSE... but you can't use the term "evolve" in your theory. Because remember, if you believe in God, you can't believe in "evolving", correct?

So he had to take them ALL. And somehow, the bears and tigers and lions didn't eat him.

And I'm not sure if all the water was salt water, or fresh water... because fresh water fish can't live in salt water... so maybe Noah had a big ass aquarium on the ship too.

I'm not really sure.

I haven't seen anyone who believes this post yet. I really am looking for answers to this. It's not meant to be bullshit... but when you sit and think about it... that's exactly what it sounds like, right?

And yet we cannot be related to primates, no matter what, because THAT is something that couldn't happen over millions of years?

Not complete true. There are many species that are happy as a bug in a rug in brackish water. There are many stories of sharks swimming up in to fresh water rivers to feed.

It seems more of a tale of "fuck up and I'll drown your ass" than it is a scientific explanation of how it all could happen.

As for microorganisms, many of those would easily survive on the skin, hair, and inside the other animals that were lead on to this "massive ark"

Then you move on to how were they fed, water, and cleaned? A large animal would produce a proportional amount of excriment.

Bet it got pretty damn gamey on that there ark.

 

[Big Brother Val]

Not complete true. There are many species that are happy as a bug in a rug in brackish water. There are many stories of sharks swimming up in to fresh water rivers to feed.

It seems more of a tale of "fuck up and I'll drown your ass" than it is a scientific explanation of how it all could happen.

As for microorganisms, many of those would easily survive on the skin, hair, and inside the other animals that were lead on to this "massive ark"

Then you move on to how were they fed, water, and cleaned? A large animal would produce a proportional amount of excriment.

Bet it got pretty damn gamey on that there ark.

I'm not a fish expert... but I really didn't think freshwater could survive in salt water. But then again... what do I know?

And I'm sure animals had to eat their own shit... but they'd run out of it after 40 days and 40 nights, right? Your body wouldn't have anything left to shit.

Sure... Microorganisms are easy... they're tiny. Maybe he had a lot of stored water for the animals to drink... again, maybe they just took it out of the freshwater fish aquarium or something.

The whole concept to me seems like Santa Claus. Easy to believe in when you are a kid, when you still believe in magic... but to continue believing just blows my mind.

I'm not closed to it completely, though. It's like with women... I'm just trying to understand them, because they don't make any sense.

 

[Mad4Iron]

Shit women are real Bud,this shit is fantasy.

I'd rather spend my time tryng to get in a 20yr olds pants than wondering if Noah had enough provisions.

Mad

 

[big_bad_buff]

there was no such thing as a carnivore before the flood, this is one of the curses. and if you guys are really wanting answers, do some research. I'm not a bible scholar, but there are many out there that know the bible inside and out, and can answer all your questions.

Genesis 6:15 in the Bible tells us the Ark's dimensions were at least 135 meters long (300 cubits), 22.5 meters wide (50 cubits), and 13.5 meters high (30 cubits). That's 450 feet long, 75 feet wide, and 45 feet high! It could have been larger because several larger-sized cubits were used. But the 45-centimeter (18-inch) cubit is long enough to show the enormous size of the Ark.

http://www.users.bigpond.com/rdoolan/arksize.html

 

[Mad4Iron]

And after the flood canines erupted in mammals,just like that?

I don't want to insult your faith my friend,I however don't want my intelligence insulted.

Mad

 

[KnoXville]

Also, If the earth is a little over 6000 years old according to the bibble, then dinosaurs and man must have coexisted together. Maybe just the babies then, as they take up less space, eat less, smell less and wouldn't decide to munch on a Noah sandwich. Thanks again.

Score one for deductive imagination.

http://www.users.bigpond.com/rdoolan/dinosark.html

It seems logical that Noah would have taken any huge types of dinosaurs on the Ark when they were babies or small juveniles.

 

[Big Johnson]

If we start trying to base faith on facts, we'll all be agnostics before long.

 

[big_bad_buff]

And after the flood canines erupted in mammals,just like that?

I don't want to insult your faith my friend,I however don't want my intelligence insulted.

Mad

so cry me a river, what do you want me to say? this is what the bible says. go tell your story to the rest of the millions

 

[Big Brother Val]

so cry me a river, what do you want me to say? this is what the bible says. go tell your story to the rest of the millions

I guess that's where my question lies, Triple B. How can the theory of evolution and stuff be so far fetched, yet the idea of Noah's ark be absolutely accepted?

Can you imagine someone today trying build a giant boat, and have him tell everyone he was going to take two animals of every kind on it?

Even if he had millions of dollars backing him up, do you actually think he could pull it off? Of course not.

I'm just trying to understand how one theory can be absolutely denounced by someone because it's too hard to believe.

Granted... the fact that we came from shit swimming in the ocean is hard to fathom... but someone living to be 900 years old, to do what Noah did is OKAY?

You yourself had mentioned the "Easter Bunny" in the other thread... what's closer to believing in the Easter Bunny... evolution... or a 900 year old man doing what Noah did?

And if animals didn't eat eachother on the ark, because it was before carnivores were around? Didn't man eat animals back then? That's a carnivore. And dinosaurs did too.

Now, I'm not trying to discredit you, understand. Or insult you by any means. These are just answers to questions that even the most religious people I've talked to don't know the answer to, and they tell me they just have to have faith.

So if the THEORIES in the bible are just accepted, no matter how far-fetched they are... why is the THEORY of evolution so hard to accept?

 

[Mad4Iron]

so cry me a river, what do you want me to say? this is what the bible says. go tell your story to the rest of the millions

No my friend,I aint crying and I'm talking to this forum,You came on to it as you have a right.

Tell me what you think,You've read the Bible,I know what it says,but I want to know what You think as you've interjected your opinion.

Many generations came and went before the Bible was set to paper.

Ever tell a joke to a friend and hear it 3 weeks later from another friend? aint the same joke eh? Imagine 20 or 30 generations,kinda fuck up the story line.

Mad

 

[big_bad_buff]

I guess that's where my question lies, Triple B. How can the theory of evolution and stuff be so far fetched, yet the idea of Noah's ark be absolutely accepted?

this is my point. it takes faith to believe either or. correct? i was not saying creation is better than evolution. i was saying i wouldn't believe evolution at all, no matter what. it had nothing to do with creation. anyways i'm out, be on later tonight when i get back. stay broly you cock sucks

 

[Jimsbbc]

Read that link i posted on Noah's Ark. It is a long read but scientifically proves that the formation on Mt. Ararat is a boat with a keel, bulkheads evenly spaced throughout, and ballast in the hull. It also fits Noah's Arks dimensions perfectly, based on the Royal Egyptian Cubit, not the Hebrew Cubit which was not in existance at that time.

This Archealogist also proved Moses led Israel out of Egypt into the Land of Midian which is Saudi Arabia, not the Sinai peninsula. The real Mt. Sinai lies in NW Saudi Arabia, and the crossing took place across the Gulf of Aqaba. There is a natural land bridge only a few feet underwater that links the two land masses (which they crossed). The Real Mt. Sinai lies in Saudi Arabia is surrounded razor wire fence and by Saudi guards and military out in the middle of BFE to keep this from being found out. There has been a documentary done by two Americans who sneaked in wearing night vision equipment and video'd the evidence. I have the video. It shows the mountain that is chared black from fire, a 8 foot tall altar, counts of non-indigenous cattle, the rock 7 stories high Moses split which water gushed from - worn smooth in an arid land that gets 1 1/2" of rain a year. You will never see that in left anti Christian anti jewish media though.

Soon enough this will catch main stream media. The thing is people will try to find anything wrong with it they can and refute it so they do not have to believe and can live in complete selfishness.

 

[XBiker]

this is my point. it takes faith to believe either or. correct? i was not saying creation is better than evolution. i was saying i wouldn't believe evolution at all, no matter what. it had nothing to do with creation. anyways i'm out, be on later tonight when i get back. stay broly you cock sucks

Darwin has already proved evolution, bro.

You should read my post earlier. 0 or 1, no .5

You have faith, BBV is questioning the fabric of this faith. Is the bible a 100% accurate and accountable text? No.

In the day and age of testing everything to see if it's legit, the concept of god himself brings scruitiny.

When I live here and especially when I move on, I hope to achieve what this person did.

 

[BigBazooka]

I think you guys should have a debate about Santa Claus and how in the hell does he provide Christmas presents to billions of people.

 

[Burning_Inside]

Guys guys...you make me sad..The lord works in mysterious ways. The bible doesn't tell EVERYTHING in detail..Some was left out because the authors thought it wouldn't need clarification, you;d just *know*. I mean no, it didn't say how Noah got all the animals and insects in but I mean you should just REALIZE that of course he had help from above in some way.



KIDDING!!! haha. I don't believe in any of that poo poo.

 

[Norman Bates]

What probably happened is that some big flood happened in the Euphrat/Tigris region. Some farmer or fisher had a big boat and took his goats, chicks and lamas with him.

The stories in the bible are partly adopted from other religions, exaggerated , changed to fit in the agenda of the priests living back then and partly just made up.

An example is Abraham supposed to have possessed camels, yet camels were domesticated 1000 before Christ and not 3000.
There are more examples like that.
The Deuteronomion was not written by Moses but made up hundreds of years later.


Don´t take the bible literally.

 

[Imnotdutch]

The theory of evolution is just that.........a theory. You can not prove a theory to be fact........it is more a question of how certain you are that the theory is correct (of course you base this on an analysis of the evidence).

Darwin has already proved evolution, bro.

 

[Spruceman]

Noah's ark was probably a spacecraft, leaving one planet previously "seeded" by a highly intelligent species, transporting the DNA, etc of the successful species there to the earth to be incorporated into the earth's lifeforms. Perhaps the former planet either proved inhospitable, was facing one of many possible cosmic disasters, or resulted in undesirable mutations of "ideal" species. The former planet might have circled its central star in about a tenth of an earth year -- as the biblical human life span of 600+ years before the Ark became about 60 afterwards. The "Ark" could have represented repeated visitations of Earth spaced every 100,000 years or so -- with the last (the one that effected the last leap in humankind) occurring with the downfall of Neanderthal Man.

On the other hand, the ark might have been merely a sighting of Santa's sleigh on one foggy Christmas Eve or the Easter Bunny's egg basket following a first spring full moon of antiquity.

 

[Spartacus]

not to mention that our planet doesn't contain enough water to flood it over

 

[Imnotdutch]

not to mention that our planet doesn't contain enough water to flood it over

lol tis true.

 

[tsarleon]

science vs religion, NEVERENDING. Religion is a drug, like a lot of things are, religion works to ease the mind, to "escape" the burdens. It is a way to "release" yourself. I choose to lift weights/workout, others choose to snort or drink a shitload. Perhaps religion would hold more of a basis if I didnt see million dollar business buildings (churches) being erected, if i didnt see the local clergymen or whatever driving 60,000 mercedes. Even is this was all true, bible = 100%, the present day status of the church and what religion causes turns me away from it completely. I have complete respect for those who hold their religious beliefs, alls I wish is for them to respect my beliefs, which is NEVER the case. In the end it does not really matter i suppose. If im going to hell for not accepting god in my life, then thats fine, I know a lot of cocksuckers that believe in god and will go to heaven, besides al capone suggested that hell must be a awesome place since all the religious people say it is evil, haha.
Look at this im using words from al capone in a religious talk, haha.
Here are some thoughts I like to think about....

Religion is the opiate of the masses

 

[sergio]

What kills me is the way people approach the Bible vs the Theory of Evolution question. Bible thumpers believe the stories are real, and if science can't prove otherwise, it must be accepted as being the truth.
That is the wrong way of looking at it.
The ONUS is on the believers to PROVE these events actually happened. Not the other way around.

 

[sergio]

not to mention that our planet doesn't contain enough water to flood it over

That's actually incorrect...if the polar icecaps melted, it would flood every square inch of land.

 

[sergio]

The theory of evolution is just that.........a theory. You can not prove a theory to be fact........it is more a question of how certain you are that the theory is correct (of course you base this on an analysis of the evidence).

And a belief is just that...a belief.


At least science tries to answer questions...

 

[biteme]

Nah. I don't really have faith to begin with. I know there has to be SOMETHING bigger than our little planet here... but I don't understand how some people can believe completely in this kind of thing.

Those same people discredit science and the Theory of Evolution because there's "no way" that could happen.

Yet this ark could?

God is just testing our faith to see if you believe in what can't be possible. If you don't believe you get tortured for eternity in flames. How nice.

 

[Imnotdutch]

That's actually incorrect...if the polar icecaps melted, it would flood every square inch of land.

You are wrong. If the polar ice caps melted the sea level would rise by about 60 metres. That doesnt even come close to covering every square inch of land even when you include the 7 meters that could come from melting ice in Greenland.

Of course for the polar ice caps tomelt some serious shit would have to happen in terms of temperature rises. Currently, the temperature in Antarctica (the melting of the Arctic would not affect sea levels as it is effectively a big ice-berg.......think Archimedes) never gets above freezing. NEVER. For that to melt you would have to raise the worlds temperature a lot over extended periods.

 

[Imnotdutch]

I could argue that religion tries to answer questions........it just doesn't use objective observations and critical thinking to do so.

And a belief is just that...a belief.


At least science tries to answer questions...

 

[BigBazooka]

.......think Archimedes) never gets above freezing.

Doode your speling and grammur sukxs ass. It's spellud Arimidex, not Archimides.

 

[Imnotdutch]

Doode your speling and grammur sukxs ass. It's spellud Arimidex, not Archimides.

Yeh butt eye hav a Ph.D so fuk u

 

[Big Brother Val]

I thought that God made the Earth flood... didn't it rain seriously bad for a while? I guess if he can part the sea, he can make it bigger, right? Then it just evaporated, and all of the land was INSTANTLY covered with vegetation? Otherwise the animals, who didn't eat eachother back then, would starve to death, right?

I wonder how humid it was back then, with the sun being hot enough to evaporate millions of gallons of water in a short period of time.

Wouldn't all the land just be a soggy, swamp-like mess? There couldn't exactly be any gardens left, right? And I'm pretty sure Don's House of Tacos didn't exist back then... so how did they survive.

Granted... I could read on it... but I'm looking for a nutshell answer. Not something in a language that doesn't make sense to me.

"And the rain doth poureth down unto thine head, until the sun groomed the land and vine. Noah layeth his head and rested and the next day there was food and bread, and he said thanks unto the Lord for his holiest of holies, he shall not be smitten with smiteful smite thou the art the thine."

That sort of stuff does nothing for me.

As far as the ark goes, everyone should look at the site that Jimsbbc posted on the first page. It's got some interesting stuff. It's definately lookin' like a large boat...

 

[Y_lifter]

Many interpret this section of Genesis where "The WORLD" meant
the area around the middle east/Turkey, because back in these
times this would be all they knew of it.
One would assume they did not know the concept of "the world" as we do today.

They also would not know of the multitude of other animals that were outside of their little Local world.

 

[Big Brother Val]

Many interpret this section of Genesis where "The WORLD" meant
the area around the middle east/Turkey, because back in these
times this would be all they knew of it.
One would assume they did not know the concept of "the world" as we do today.

They also would not know of the multitude of other animals that were outside of their little Local world.

So God only flooded that part of the world? I thought he flooded the Earth to cleanse it of all the evil people. I do see what you're saying though. And that makes more sense... but that's one of the problems I have with religion.

We're all supposed to believe whole-heartedly in this ancient book... yet no one can really say for sure what it even says.

With science, there's proof that something BETWEEN ape and man has walked the Earth... they have PROOF of it... and yet the Theory of Evolution is still shunned... and then there's a book, where everyone can interperet what works for them, basically, and that's TRUTH?

 

[big_bad_buff]

how does anyone know apes are older than man? were are the facts? were is the proof? there is no facts, nor is there any proof.

oh but our books say so

 

[XBiker]

how does anyone know apes are older than man? were are the facts? were is the proof? there is no facts, nor is there any proof.

oh but our books say so

Two words.

Archaeology.

Carbon-Dating.

 

[Big Brother Val]

how does anyone know apes are older than man? were are the facts? were is the proof? there is no facts, nor is there any proof.

oh but our books say so

Well... I could get down on my knees and ask the invisible man who lives in the sky...


Let me ask you this... according to religion and stuff, when was man first around? How many years ago? Like 10,000? I'm really not sure... which is why I'm asking.

 

[big_bad_buff]

Two words.

Archaeology.

Carbon-Dating.

Archaeology means nothing. big words/names people give bones, there is no facts behind there dates, because Carbon-Dating has been proven not to be effective past a certain age.


Quick-read this article:
Carbon dating can sometimes give very crazy results, particularly if the organism has been affected by water or is very ancient.

When some rock paintings were found in South Africa in 1991, Oxford University's radiocarbon accelerator unit dated them as being around 1200 years old. This meant they were the oldest bushman paintings found in open country.

But news of this find reached Capetown resident Mrs. Joan Ahrens. She recognized the rock paintings as being the work of her art class! Thieves had stolen them from her garden. If the truth had not come to light everyone would have accepted the very wrong radiocarbon date of around 1200 years. Carbon dating can give crazy results.

Among fragments of mammoth and bison bone found at Old Crow River in the Yukon Territory, Canada, in 1966, was a sharpened tool made from caribou bone. Radiocarbon dating of the tool gave results between 25,000 years and 32,000 years. This meant that humans must have lived in the area long before anyone had previously suspected.

But in 1986 D. Earl Nelson of Simon Fraser University in British Columbia used a nuclear accelerator to test the radioactive age of the bones. His results showed that the tool was carved not 32,000 years ago, but only a few hundred years before the time of Christ. Yes, carbon dating can give crazy results.

Other crazy results from carbon dating:

Shells of mollusks that were living have been dated as having died — 2300 years ago!
Seals that had only just been killed gave an age of 1300 years.
An English castle that had been built 785 years ago gave an age of 7370 years when part of it was dated.
Mummified seals that had been dead only about 30 years yielded an age of 4600 years.

read this Article
http://www.drdino.com/cse.asp?pg=articles&specific=59

 

[Imnotdutch]

Two words.

Archaeology.

Carbon-Dating.

You mean radio dating. The half life of Carbon 13 is inappropriate for use with specimens over a few thousands years old.........but there are other isotopes that you can use.

 

[Imnotdutch]

how does anyone know apes are older than man? were are the facts? were is the proof? there is no facts, nor is there any proof.

oh but our books say so

Geneaological trees built up using similarities in DNA sequence, protein sequence as well as gross anatomical structure. Not to mention that our predecessors are found in lower strata indicating an older age. Radio-dating.........to name but a few. Many techniques pointing to the same conclusion.

BTW the term apes is a mistake.

 

[Jacob Creutzfeldt]

Dr. Who managed to fit two humanoids, a mechanical dog, and an entire labrynth of time travel equipment in a telephone booth. What makes you think Noah couldn't perform a similar feat? He probably even built stables for all of the animals with a sonic screwdriver.

 

[KnoXville]

Just occured to me, did he take public lice and crabs also?

If so, why?

 

[Mad4Iron]

or cobras,vipers and rattlesnakes.Not to mention vultures,vampire bats,plague carrying rats and rabid raccoons.

Mad

 

[velvett]

Proper space planning.

 

[Big Johnson]

How did he feed all those animals for 40 days, including himself and his family?

 

[big4life]

It was all done with mirrors.