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HOW DID HE DO IT????????????????????
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"i have a theory.
that he had his cycles specifically designed for him by an endochrinologist that took into consideration his blood work, body type....everything....... to make him "designer cycles" specifically for him........
can it be that sophisticated?"
No way. We know about a 100 times more now about nutrition, training, and drugs. Endocrinologists back then were no where's as sophisticated as we are now.
It all boils down to genetics.
that he had his cycles specifically designed for him by an endochrinologist that took into consideration his blood work, body type....everything....... to make him "designer cycles" specifically for him........
can it be that sophisticated?"
No way. We know about a 100 times more now about nutrition, training, and drugs. Endocrinologists back then were no where's as sophisticated as we are now.
It all boils down to genetics.
OMEGA said:
Hey Mr.O
Yes, this is done. I have read about it in the past, i believe it was the late steroid guru Dan Duchaine that wrote about. Basically anyone that could afford it could get all their receptors mapped and he could figure out which compounds and doses would be the best for you based on that mapping, body type, blood type etc..
cockdezl said:
They may not have been as sophisticated as they are now, but they still developed pretty much all the steroids we have today back then, so the pharmaceutical industry had a lot of knowledge that was not commonly known, who knows i am sure they had some gurus.
gwl9dta4 said:
Hey Mr.O
Yes, this is done. I have read about it in the past, i believe it was the late steroid guru Dan Duchaine that wrote about. Basically anyone that could afford it could get all their receptors mapped and he could figure out which compounds and doses would be the best for you based on that mapping, body type, blood type etc..
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I have his encyclopedia, good book. Point being, if you havent read it or own it, look in it and you will see pictures of him at 16 and 19 etc. Obviously natural, and already with a very solid base. Bottom line, incredible genetics. Top that off with some educated dieting and solid routine, (which he had plenty of experience of before he ever went pro) and good cycles on top of it all, you got yourself one amazing man.
Guiness said:He couldn't compete today with that body, but I prefer it to any of the pro's today.
I agree but why do we find his body so great? Why can't today BB look like that?
Actually I think there are BB who look as good or better than him. But they don't get much publicity b/c they're not top pro. Do you remember of a guy name darin lannaghan (?). He was manager in venice gold gym and had great genetics and his arms could match in size (no big deal for today pro) but also in shape arnolds ones.
And he's nearly anonymous.
Furthermore I think the B&W pics make him look better.
"Yes, this is done. I have read about it in the past, i believe it was the late steroid guru Dan Duchaine that wrote about. Basically anyone that could afford it could get all their receptors mapped and he could figure out which compounds and doses would be the best for you based on that mapping, body type, blood type etc.."
There is no "receptor mapping" that is done for this purpose. I can't even think of what this would do. All steroids work through the androgen receptor, which is known to work on a dose response curve, essentially the greater the dose the stronger the response, until a given max is reached.
Blood type has nothing to do with steroidal effects either, so this is a non-issue.
Arnold's physique is a combination of genetics, drugs and hard-work.
There is no "receptor mapping" that is done for this purpose. I can't even think of what this would do. All steroids work through the androgen receptor, which is known to work on a dose response curve, essentially the greater the dose the stronger the response, until a given max is reached.
Blood type has nothing to do with steroidal effects either, so this is a non-issue.
Arnold's physique is a combination of genetics, drugs and hard-work.
cockdezl said:
then how do you take into account that every
Weider contracted Mr. Olympia has always had a pysique just 2-3 steps ahead of every other competitior?
even Ronnie........after he got the O....his physique took huge bound in progress.......
the same with Yates.
Haney
Arnold
Oliva.......alomost all of them
its just a guess of course....but something happened to all of them and the thought of them having every concievable test done including what gwl9dta4 said would seem possible, and in fact necessary
cockdezl said:
There is still a great deal that science has to explain. If what you say is true 100% of the time then the release times, for example, of different esters would be irrelevant to your gains, yet some respond really well to long acting ester blends like sustanon where 250 mg weekly will give excellent gains but an Enanthate ester at the same dosage may do next to nothing.
Incidentally, i respond like crazy to low doses of sust, but very poorly to a enanthate of cypionate ester. I need much higher dosages of enet or cyp for the same result i get with sust.
There are many examples i could use, and i believe thet that human body reacts to each drug very differently in different people, if that was not the case we would all make great gains using the same exact drugs and the exact same dosages.
As for the blood type, i am a sincere believer in many books written on the topic of blood types and correlated diets. Since i switched to the diet suggested for a B+ blood type my stamina increased significantly. And all i had to do to get rid of my bload and constipation was get rid of eating lean Chicken breasts and replace them with red beef, within a 2 weeks all my problem were gone and i started gaining and leaning out. Hey what can i say, this is considered standard knowledge in many countires but not the US, and it works for me.
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