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HOW DID HE DO IT????????????????????

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  • designer cycle created for him

    Votes: 2 6.3%

  • luck

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • genetics

    Votes: 24 75.0%

  • I don't know

    Votes: 6 18.8%
  • Total voters
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OMEGA

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how did he manage to get so cut and huge?

with such symettry?

he blows todays competetors out of the water...except for Levrone, ray, and some few others..........

look at the bottom pics.......

i have a theory.

that he had his cycles specifically designed for him by an endochrinologist that took into consideration his blood work, body type....everything....... to make him "designer cycles" specifically for him........

can it be that sophisticated?

i wonder sometimes

i mean how else could he look so good.......for so long.......and still live that long...with little complications??????????


http://web.tiscali.it/iompao1/extragallery4.html
 
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Actually a lot of people don't think he had very good symmetry due to the fact that he doesn't have elephant sized quads of today's BBer's. Personally I greatly prefer his build to that of today's GH gut competitors.
 
One of the best bodies that ever walked the face of the earth. Not luck, but genetics and a sick routine.
 
He couldn't compete today with that body, but I prefer it to any of the pro's today. Size is becomming a huge issue now. Jay Cutler should have won the Olympia but Coleman's size puts many, including the judges, in awe. But Arnold had one of the greatest physique's of all-time and I would give anything to look as good when I'm his age as he does now.

:D
 
he was the best.

still I wonder if one had the cash flow$$$.
....would it not be reasonable to guess that if an endochronoligist ran every concievable test on you..

that he or she could create the perfect cycle for you?

with minimal sides and maximum gains>

someone who competed for years, and who actually had conversations with Arnold...(his name was Andrew Chabin) told me that the best "cheap cylce " for someone would be test cypionate and deca.......but that high level competitors that are in it for the long haul have cycles basically designed for them.

he did not say specifically that this was so.....i was kinda of making A leap of logic....by suggesting the endochronologist aspect......

anyway Arnie is and will always be the best
 
I also prefer arnolds look. I would never want the gh look. I mean who cares if your huge if you have to walk around with your stomach sticking out a mile.
 
I'm going to add another choice to the poll
Unbelievable amounts of Hard work and Dedication
Luck-yes
Killer routine/cycle-yes
genetics-yes
But work and dedication above all.
He is the standard by which all other BB's will be compared.
 
Guiness said:
He couldn't compete today with that body, but I prefer it to any of the pro's today. Size is becomming a huge issue now. Jay Cutler should have won the Olympia but Coleman's size puts many, including the judges, in awe. But Arnold had one of the greatest physique's of all-time and I would give anything to look as good when I'm his age as he does now.

:D
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Do you think that with Arnold's genetics and the drugs that they use today he would not blow away Cutler, Coleman and any other competitor? Arnie had an incredible physique using one tenth of the gear they use today.
 
I was going to take today off from the gym, until I looked at those pics.

Thanks!


OMEGA said:
how did he manage to get so cut and huge?

with such symettry?

he blows todays competetors out of the water...except for Levrone, ray, and some few others..........

look at the bottom pics.......

i have a theory.

that he had his cycles specifically designed for him by an endochrinologist that took into consideration his blood work, body type....everything....... to make him "designer cycles" specifically for him........

can it be that sophisticated?

i wonder sometimes

i mean how else could he look so good.......for so long.......and still live that long...with little complications??????????


http://web.tiscali.it/iompao1/extragallery4.html
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Holy shitballs, my fuckin' GOD - I knew he was a big ass MF but that guy could scare the B-jezus outta anyone when he was at his peak.

Arnie is the man, man!
 
There were not many anabolic brands available in Arnie's day. I understand that he favoured primo and dbol. I understand that he took a lot of dbol and took it for extended periods of time (beyond the 5 weeks commonly recommended here). Steve Reeves, Arni, Franco, etc were products mostly of dbol, test and primo.
 
Yes, Arnold is amazing, but let's not kid ourselves, he doesn't even come close to the size of today's competitors. He wouldn't even place at a show.

I'm not taking anything away from the man, but I've seen shots of him(at his peak) aside Roland Kickinger(Not exactly a top pro) and Roland dawrf him. I'll try to find these pictures, they were in an old Flex.
 
Just saw the 'Pumping Iron' video last night. For those who hasn't already seen it, see it now! Best movie I've ever watched :)

Daddy Arnold is a truly amazing man...
 
"i have a theory.

that he had his cycles specifically designed for him by an endochrinologist that took into consideration his blood work, body type....everything....... to make him "designer cycles" specifically for him........

can it be that sophisticated?"

No way. We know about a 100 times more now about nutrition, training, and drugs. Endocrinologists back then were no where's as sophisticated as we are now.

It all boils down to genetics.
 
OMEGA said:
he was the best.

still I wonder if one had the cash flow$$$.
....would it not be reasonable to guess that if an endochronoligist ran every concievable test on you..

that he or she could create the perfect cycle for you?

with minimal sides and maximum gains>
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Hey Mr.O


Yes, this is done. I have read about it in the past, i believe it was the late steroid guru Dan Duchaine that wrote about. Basically anyone that could afford it could get all their receptors mapped and he could figure out which compounds and doses would be the best for you based on that mapping, body type, blood type etc..


:elephant:
 
cockdezl said:
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No way. We know about a 100 times more now about nutrition, training, and drugs. Endocrinologists back then were no where's as sophisticated as we are now.

It all boils down to genetics. [/B]
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They may not have been as sophisticated as they are now, but they still developed pretty much all the steroids we have today back then, so the pharmaceutical industry had a lot of knowledge that was not commonly known, who knows i am sure they had some gurus.
 
gwl9dta4 said:


Hey Mr.O


Yes, this is done. I have read about it in the past, i believe it was the late steroid guru Dan Duchaine that wrote about. Basically anyone that could afford it could get all their receptors mapped and he could figure out which compounds and doses would be the best for you based on that mapping, body type, blood type etc..


:elephant:
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MR. :elephant:


We can always count on you to come through with the goods
my freind.

thankyou:dance2:
 
I have his encyclopedia, good book. Point being, if you havent read it or own it, look in it and you will see pictures of him at 16 and 19 etc. Obviously natural, and already with a very solid base. Bottom line, incredible genetics. Top that off with some educated dieting and solid routine, (which he had plenty of experience of before he ever went pro) and good cycles on top of it all, you got yourself one amazing man.
 
Guiness said:
He couldn't compete today with that body, but I prefer it to any of the pro's today.
:D
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I agree but why do we find his body so great? Why can't today BB look like that?

Actually I think there are BB who look as good or better than him. But they don't get much publicity b/c they're not top pro. Do you remember of a guy name darin lannaghan (?). He was manager in venice gold gym and had great genetics and his arms could match in size (no big deal for today pro) but also in shape arnolds ones.
And he's nearly anonymous.
Furthermore I think the B&W pics make him look better.
 
"Yes, this is done. I have read about it in the past, i believe it was the late steroid guru Dan Duchaine that wrote about. Basically anyone that could afford it could get all their receptors mapped and he could figure out which compounds and doses would be the best for you based on that mapping, body type, blood type etc.."

There is no "receptor mapping" that is done for this purpose. I can't even think of what this would do. All steroids work through the androgen receptor, which is known to work on a dose response curve, essentially the greater the dose the stronger the response, until a given max is reached.

Blood type has nothing to do with steroidal effects either, so this is a non-issue.

Arnold's physique is a combination of genetics, drugs and hard-work.
 
cockdezl said:
"Yes, this is done. I have read about it in the past, i believe it was the late steroid guru Dan Duchaine that wrote about. Basically anyone that could afford it could get all their receptors mapped and he could figure out which compounds and doses would be the best for you based on that mapping, body type, blood type etc.."

There is no "receptor mapping" that is done for this purpose. I can't even think of what this would do. All steroids work through the androgen receptor, which is known to work on a dose response curve, essentially the greater the dose the stronger the response, until a given max is reached.

Blood type has nothing to do with steroidal effects either, so this is a non-issue.

Arnold's physique is a combination of genetics, drugs and hard-work.
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then how do you take into account that every

Weider contracted Mr. Olympia has always had a pysique just 2-3 steps ahead of every other competitior?

even Ronnie........after he got the O....his physique took huge bound in progress.......

the same with Yates.

Haney

Arnold

Oliva.......alomost all of them

its just a guess of course....but something happened to all of them and the thought of them having every concievable test done including what gwl9dta4 said would seem possible, and in fact necessary
 
cockdezl said:

There is no "receptor mapping" that is done for this purpose. I can't even think of what this would do. All steroids work through the androgen receptor, which is known to work on a dose response curve, essentially the greater the dose the stronger the response, until a given max is reached.

Blood type has nothing to do with steroidal effects either, so this is a non-issue.

Arnold's physique is a combination of genetics, drugs and hard-work.
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There is still a great deal that science has to explain. If what you say is true 100% of the time then the release times, for example, of different esters would be irrelevant to your gains, yet some respond really well to long acting ester blends like sustanon where 250 mg weekly will give excellent gains but an Enanthate ester at the same dosage may do next to nothing.

Incidentally, i respond like crazy to low doses of sust, but very poorly to a enanthate of cypionate ester. I need much higher dosages of enet or cyp for the same result i get with sust.

There are many examples i could use, and i believe thet that human body reacts to each drug very differently in different people, if that was not the case we would all make great gains using the same exact drugs and the exact same dosages.

As for the blood type, i am a sincere believer in many books written on the topic of blood types and correlated diets. Since i switched to the diet suggested for a B+ blood type my stamina increased significantly. And all i had to do to get rid of my bload and constipation was get rid of eating lean Chicken breasts and replace them with red beef, within a 2 weeks all my problem were gone and i started gaining and leaning out. Hey what can i say, this is considered standard knowledge in many countires but not the US, and it works for me.
 
OMEGA said:



then how do you take into account that every

Weider contracted Mr. Olympia has always had a pysique just 2-3 steps ahead of every other competitior?

even Ronnie........after he got the O....his physique took huge bound in progress.......

the same with Yates.

Haney

Arnold

Oliva.......alomost all of them

its just a guess of course....but something happened to all of them and the thought of them having every concievable test done including what gwl9dta4 said would seem possible, and in fact necessary
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Yes i definitely see the point you made. In fact look at Cutler, Suddenly he made astounding improvements to his physique. Common sence tells me there is more then meets the eye to their cycling. Receptor mapping may in fact allow you to find the particular drug your body tolerates really well, thus safely allowing you to use extremply high dosages with virtually no ill effects. But without that knowledge you may be shooting in the dark trying to find your ideal drug, ester, dosage or stack in the effects versus side effects scenario.
 
"then how do you take into account that every

Weider contracted Mr. Olympia has always had a pysique just 2-3 steps ahead of every other competitior?

even Ronnie........after he got the O....his physique took huge bound in progress.......

the same with Yates.

Haney

Arnold

Oliva.......alomost all of them"

Ummm...could be increased income, which allows for better choice of drugs (GH, IGF, etc.), along with more free time to devote to training and nutrition, and also hiring of better trainers.

We have learned more about resistance training and its effects on muscle growth and trainers are know more knowledgable about these issues. Early Olympia winners trained so poorly by todays standards and also ate worse.

"There is still a great deal that science has to explain. If what you say is true 100% of the time then the release times, for example, of different esters would be irrelevant to your gains, yet some respond really well to long acting ester blends like sustanon where 250 mg weekly will give excellent gains but an Enanthate ester at the same dosage may do next to nothing."

"Incidentally, i respond like crazy to low doses of sust, but very poorly to a enanthate of cypionate ester. I need much higher dosages of enet or cyp for the same result i get with sust."

If you understood the pharmacokinetics of these drugs, then you would understand that the difference is governed by a very simple concept.

"There are many examples i could use, and i believe thet that human body reacts to each drug very differently in different people, if that was not the case we would all make great gains using the same exact drugs and the exact same dosages."

Humans are slightly different physiologically, but not dramatically. We are still governed by the same concepts, if this were not true then doctors would have a hard time prescribing medications to anyone.
 
Don't forget he was 6'2"..thats awesome. A giant by todays standards.


Todays bodybuilders (in my opinion) look fucking ridiculous and stupid. Their proportions suck because they all have big waists. They have huge lats but the V does NOT compare to the V Columbo and Arnold had in the 70's. Arnold had a 34 inch waist!!!!!

For Christs sake...Ronnie Coleman looks like he is going to have a fucking hear attack any minute. The law of diminishing returns is approaching. I hope bodybuilding takes a different route.
 
I dont think things were that complex back then that an endochronoligist would have been used. You have to remember Arnold has one of the best work ethics of all time. Anything he ever set out to do he was always a success. Whether was business, bodybuilding or acting. Most people don't realize that Arnold was a millionaire before he was a movie star. He is educated sharp and the hardest worker of all time.

All hail Arnold!!!
 
There were not many anabolic brands available in Arnie's day. I understand that he favoured primo and dbol. I understand that he took a lot of dbol and took it for extended periods of time (beyond the 5 weeks commonly recommended here). Steve Reeves, Arni, Franco, etc were products mostly of dbol, test and primo.
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Actually the selection of roids was extremely good.By the 60's pretty much all roids available today had been developed.
Remember that there isn't much incentive to research new roids today-due to the legal climate.
Besides the basics such as dbol are still the best.
 
hard training (not always but...), good diet, great genetics and some juice (but nothing compared to today's freaks),
 
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