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I think if you're gonna talk about recreational drug use, talk about it on a board thats not meant for training. My 2 cents.
 
In terms of posting that here, no it's not appropriate.

'Doesn't sound like a personal attack to me"

How would you feel if insulted steriod users? Same sorta thing.

-Zulu
 
The use of AAS is rarely every brought up here.

This is a board in which we discuss training methods, what works, what doesn't, and how we can help each other. I am not for sure where any other types of posts can be seen as a benefit. If a question needs to be answered...ask it...no matter what it is.

We just need to get rid of trolls and those making personal attacks upon others. I understand that eveyone makes attacks (I have sunken to doing this towards Cornholio before) and it was a horrible thing for me to do. I feel that my attacks towards them may have been one of the main reasons they do not post here as often...maybe not.

Think before you post...I will try my best to do the same.

B True
 
ZZuluZ said:
In terms of posting that here, no it's not appropriate.

'Doesn't sound like a personal attack to me"

How would you feel if insulted steriod users? Same sorta thing.

-Zulu

It's not the same thing though, as steroids directly relate to training, where recreational drugs don't. Most info related to gear should be on the anabolic forum, but there is some relevance here as well. For example, I trained naturally for ten years before trying gear, so I know a lot about natural training. But now I've been cycling for a year, so I've developed a decent knowlege base on that as well. Knowing the differences in the way I train on or off allows me to offer my advice opinion on natural as well as "enhanced" training. But I've endured many attacks on the training board for my use of gear, I generally don't take it personally as i feel that after 10 years of natural, I earned the right to take my body and training to the next level.

Okay, I think I got a little off topic there, but my point is, there is relevance for some steroid discussion on this board.
 
b fold the truth said:
The use of AAS is rarely every brought up here.

This is a board in which we discuss training methods, what works, what doesn't, and how we can help each other. I am not for sure where any other types of posts can be seen as a benefit. If a question needs to be answered...ask it...no matter what it is.

We just need to get rid of trolls and those making personal attacks upon others. I understand that eveyone makes attacks (I have sunken to doing this towards Cornholio before) and it was a horrible thing for me to do. I feel that my attacks towards them may have been one of the main reasons they do not post here as often...maybe not.

Think before you post...I will try my best to do the same.

B True

B, you are probably one of the best natured, easiest going guys on all of elite, so the fact that even you have slipped and sunk to that level says enough, the key is to be able to take ownership for it when it happens. Mods notwithstanding, us, the regular posters on here are the ones that create the atmosphere on this board, so if there is a negative under tone, which there is, then we need to own that, then fix it!
 
I think recreational drugs do relate to training.

Some elite athletes use stimulants [such as cocaine] before maximum attempts.

Arnold was known to smoke marijuana after lifting [the specifics of which escape me].

What board should questions about drugs/alcohol be asked on?

My main problem was with this statement:

'These are bonefide losers in my book. It is an oxymoron to mention drug abuse along with training."

Seems to me it's the sort of thing we want to avoid. Maybe not.

-Zulu
 
So if guys want to discuss those drugs and how they relate to training, then so be it, but all the comments i've seen about rec drugs have been in a completely different vein of thought.

Plus, steroids bring enough negative attention to this board as a whole, but the authorities place a much higher emphasis on going after those that use or sell recreational drugs
 
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