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How can I drink slow carbs?
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ashley2212
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If you're looking for shakes, you can throw some rolled oats in there:
http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?t=346070
Just make sure you're not drinking too much protein. Powder is a supplement, not a staple. Unless you want to start blending some chicken breast in there
http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?t=346070
Just make sure you're not drinking too much protein. Powder is a supplement, not a staple. Unless you want to start blending some chicken breast in there
Synpax
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ashley2212 said:If you're looking for shakes, you can throw some rolled oats in there:
http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?t=346070
Just make sure you're not drinking too much protein. Powder is a supplement, not a staple. Unless you want to start blending some chicken breast in there
Whey is the most bio-available source of protein. What is wrong with getting nearly all your protein from whey?
BTW - thanks. I will look into that. I currently eat my oats raw with a side of water.
S
~SC~
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Drinking all your carbs?
Ooooooooooooookay.
~SC~
Ooooooooooooookay.
~SC~
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~SC~
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JKurz1 said:
I don't agree w/the thread starter wanting to drink all of the "slow" carbs, no.
Not only is that only possible with oats only for the most part, it's not something that is easily put into practice, and there is something to be said for solid food and nutrition.
To each his own as is always the case, I just found it to be a very unorthodox/unrealistic way of attaining nutritional needs.
~SC~
Synpax
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~SC~ said:
What don't you agree with? What can be said for solid food? Oats are solid - does it matter if you chew them or swallow them with a drink?
I am trying to redesign the Synpax Diet to make it more efficient. It's really hard to eat 300g+ of raw oats each day. All I need are:
Whey
Flax Seed Oil \ Fish Oil Caps
Dextrose
Oats
Multivitamins + Large Dossage Vitamins (Vit E)
NaCL Replacement Pills
Water
These are things that are easy to make, inexpensive, can be consumed quickly, and are ideal health foods. Sometimes I have a chicken breast (sometimes two before bed) and I may have to add milk to the above mix, but that's really all you need.
BTW - I think maltodextrose might work just as well as oats.
S
~SC~
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If all you are using is oats then I suppose you could do this all the time.
Had no idea you'd be willing to do that continuously though, that's why it was a bit unrealistic, to me anyhow.
No harm, no foul, like I said to each his own 4 sure.
~SC~
Had no idea you'd be willing to do that continuously though, that's why it was a bit unrealistic, to me anyhow.
No harm, no foul, like I said to each his own 4 sure.
~SC~
ashley2212
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Synpax said:
Do you realize how few of the items you plan to live off of are actually FOOD? As in, food that grows from the ground, comes directly from an animal, or is produced by nature? Do you not see that as a problem?
In addition, if I'm not mistaken, malto is quickly digested as oats are slowly digested... how do you plan to substitute one for the other if they do two different things?
Perhaps you should consider canning the whole "Synpax Diet" and create your own.
ashley2212
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ashley2212 said:
Sorry if that sounded mean... I wasn't trying to be snappy
I just think you're setting yourself up for disaster... deep breath... deep breath... move on...
ashley2212
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JKurz1 said:
I'm sorry, I'm sorry!!! That'll teach me not to post on the forum when I'm not in a good mood
ProtienFiend
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when oats are blended in a liquid they become less "slow" (higher GI). GI is how long a body taking to process and carbohydrate in comparison to glucose. Particle size, cooking length, and much more, are to be accounted for.
I think SC was trying to say, it is a very inefficient method for carbohydrate consumption. Sure its possible, but you wont get the same results that you could be obtaining.
I think SC was trying to say, it is a very inefficient method for carbohydrate consumption. Sure its possible, but you wont get the same results that you could be obtaining.
JKurz1
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I dont think he was referring to that at all.....ok, it may change the GI, but it will be ever so slight, that it won't make a difference...it's not going to change something like oats into glucose. Then, if you factor in any fats, etc. this will slow the absorption rate even more....she's talking about 1/2 cup...the GL for this amount is nil.......ProtienFiend said:
Tom Treutlein
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GI of food isn't the only factor either. People seem to ignore the II.
Your body doesn't know whether the nutrients you give it are coming from solid food or powder or liquid. Your body won't bicker that the AA Tryptophan it just got from some powder or liquid isn't as good as that coming from a solid piece of turkey or something.
Your body doesn't know whether the nutrients you give it are coming from solid food or powder or liquid. Your body won't bicker that the AA Tryptophan it just got from some powder or liquid isn't as good as that coming from a solid piece of turkey or something.
ProtienFiend
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btw, maltodextrin has an even higher GI that glucose -> not a good choice.
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~SC~
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ProtienFiend said:
Correct. Inefficient meaning the only thing u can drink carb wise is oats, and who wants to just eat that all day? (no yams/potatoes/rice/grits/pasta on occassion, etc). Doesn't sound very fun to me, but if that's what tickles one's perverbial pickle, please drink away.
I gotta live while I eat too! If I had to drink oats all the time, I think I'd find the highest bridge around.
I guess it all lies in preference.
~SC~
JKurz1
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Agreed, but we are talking about monotony....not nutrional.....oats are a very solid (no pun intended) carb choice....would I go crazy eating them every meal, YES! Is it a bad option if you don't have any reason to live err..I mean, don't care about life's delacacies...NO.~SC~ said:Correct. Inefficient meaning the only thing u can drink carb wise is oats, and who wants to just eat that all day? (no yams/potatoes/rice/grits/pasta on occassion, etc). Doesn't sound very fun to me, but if that's what tickles one's perverbial pickle, please drink away.
I gotta live while I eat too! If I had to drink oats all the time, I think I'd find the highest bridge around.
I guess it all lies in preference.
~SC~
Synpax
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Ashley - you are a fool. Sorry, I know you're trying to be helpful, but....
My foods are extremely real. Whey? It is taken straight off the top of milk. Oats? Straight out of the ground. Flax seed oil? Harvest the seeds and squeeze them. WTF are you talking about. Almost nothing I eat has ANY preservatives, ANY processing, ANY food coloring, it is almost all totally natural. I guess the dextrose is refined but it is only for PWO.
Good lord. The Synpax Diet IS the one I created. A long time ago. I am Synpax. You think the name is a coincidence?
ashley2212 said:
My foods are extremely real. Whey? It is taken straight off the top of milk. Oats? Straight out of the ground. Flax seed oil? Harvest the seeds and squeeze them. WTF are you talking about. Almost nothing I eat has ANY preservatives, ANY processing, ANY food coloring, it is almost all totally natural. I guess the dextrose is refined but it is only for PWO.
ashley2212 said:
Good lord. The Synpax Diet IS the one I created. A long time ago. I am Synpax. You think the name is a coincidence?
Synpax
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And final note - thanks to all who helped. After the workout tonight I tried it out - 75g of oats, 28.2g of concentrate, and 12 ounces of milk into the blender. Excellent. This is just what I've been looking for - the only downside is that milk must be refregerated and I require a blender and electricity.
I will make some adjustments - 100g and 8 ounces and no concentrate - and setting the blender on it's highest setting.
I will make some adjustments - 100g and 8 ounces and no concentrate - and setting the blender on it's highest setting.
S
~SC~
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Yeah, oats and milk pwo is pretty useless IMHO.
However, do as you wish, to each his own.
(I did find it funny that the "downside" is that you need milk and ELECTRICITY. Welcome to 2004)
LOL!!!
~SC~
However, do as you wish, to each his own.
(I did find it funny that the "downside" is that you need milk and ELECTRICITY. Welcome to 2004)
LOL!!!
~SC~
JKurz1
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Synpax said:
Syn - take a glance over at www.bodybuilding.com and the diet forum........you'd find a ton of company over there...they sound mostly like young teens, but many swear by oats....I think they even have an oat forum.......they eat em PW, pre-bed, in the am...all day..........think they had a oat challenge where some dude at 1,200g in a hour or something........check it out.
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~SC~
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Lmfao!!!!!!!!
~sc~
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Synpax
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JKurz1 said:I would not reccomend oats PW, but do as you wish..also, Ashley apologized for her thread, so there was really no need to get harsh towards her...it's just many feel there is much more to life...you need to understand that.
I'm not bothered by ashley being ... sharp? ... with me, just with her inaccuraicies. I tried too give her K for her answer but I can't because I've given to recently to her.
BTW - the oats are not PW - they are about an hour PW. I throw dextrose into the PWO.
Synpax
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JKurz1 said:
Kewl thanks. Of course, all other diet boards/forums are inferior to EF.
Oats are great. I think a lot of folks here are into those expensive 'steel cut oats' or whatever, but the generic slow cook ones are fine for me and dirt cheap.
I just finished off 100g of oats in 8 oz of milk. It took about 2 minutes to make and 2 minutes to drink. BANG 460 calories, 10g of fiber, 318 carb calories, 83 protein calories, and 58 fat calories.
Immediatly after my morning cardio I had a shake /w 1 scoop of iso, 1 scoop of con, and 30g of dextrose. BANG 308 calories, 111 of carbs, 118 of prtein, and 9 of fat.
bran987
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I was wondering if anyone has ever experimented with say 1 or 2 months of 80% or more of protein cals coming from protein powders to see if this "you must eat meat" thing was B.S. I just don't see how it could.
synpax I was thinking of doing something very similar to your diet. I was going to substitute those low carb tortillas (50 cals each) since I love those. I wonder how those stack up nutritionally. I just hate how long it takes to eat. It is especially a hassle at work.
synpax I was thinking of doing something very similar to your diet.
I was going to substitute those low carb tortillas (50 cals each) since I love those. I wonder how those stack up nutritionally. I just hate how long it takes to eat. It is especially a hassle at work.ashley2212
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Synpax said:
Um, woah, hey... okay nevermind then... sometimes I forget that people get way too into their supplements on these forums. It's just my different frame of mind that interferes. It makes more sense to me to eat chicken, tuna, or egg whites instead of whey as a staple.
Sorry, I was not aware that you "created" the diet. Congratulations.
Synpax
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Bran987 said:
I can't be the only one .It's been like this for at least the last two/three months. The gains keep coming. My cycle starts in about 2 weeks.
Bran987 said:
Do these not have lots of preservatives and other chemicals? How many of the ingredients on the label have less than two syllables?
Tom Treutlein
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"Do these not have lots of preservatives and other chemicals? How many of the ingredients on the label have less than two syllables?"
I'm so tired. I'm at work (new job) and finally got to sit down after five hours of straight...well, standing and working. I'm exhausted. I can't wait. Half an hour to get out of here!
Synpax, how do you blend the oats? How many oz of water per serving of oats?
I'm so tired. I'm at work (new job) and finally got to sit down after five hours of straight...well, standing and working. I'm exhausted. I can't wait. Half an hour to get out of here!
Synpax, how do you blend the oats? How many oz of water per serving of oats?
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