How about the gay marriage bans!?!?!

[Sweet_Bitch]

This thread is useless without pics.

That's fcuking hysterical.

 

[Kroliczek]

having sex is equated with being intimate, making love is higher form of that, concieving is the ultimate event that can occur from sex. Homosexuals are incapable of this, no one has proven anything I said as wrong. I could care less what gays do, but leave marriage the way it was meant and designed to be. THe only thing being done here is dodging and ignoring what my intent with what I said was.

There is a reason that two sexes exist and not just one

I agree with your logic but you have to see the world for the way it really is.

Being gay is genetic. If two people of the same sex feel intimately about eachother and want to take their relationship to another level, then they are justified to do so.

Since you cannot make a gay man straight, why deny gays (who already go through so much confusion and turmoil already) the right to live their lives as every other couple does.

Here is where I draw the line, however. I do not believe that gay marriages should take place in a Church of God.

There is some line to draw but the answer is NOT always black or white!

 

[Kroliczek]

i cant believe guys like eachother that way. its not right

I felt the same way until it hit very close to home for me. Being gay is NOT a choice! You can't help who you like!

 

[gregory]

Explain. I merely said that intimacy and sex aren't the same thing.

I am refering to the general reasoning you display in most of your responses on this thread. nuff said. Noone wins an argument. This is not a debate but an argument and a pointless one at that. Marriage is not for gays. Find another institution and name it what you want, but not marriage, make it legal and what not but leave our religion out of it. Tis the jist of it.

 

[EnderJE]

having sex is equated with being intimate...

Again, disagree. I would say that intimacy and sex are two different things.

making love is higher form of that

Making "love" is just a saying for feelings in the act of physical intmacy. It can exist betwen a man and a woman or a man/man, woman/woman.

concieving is the ultimate event that can occur from sex

Conceiving is the result of pro-creation. There can be pro-creation without sex (ie test tube babies), thus the two should not be necessarily linked.

Homosexuals are incapable of this, no one has proven anything I said as wrong.

Ask a homosexual if they've been intimate with another. I would venture that they would say yes.

Ask a homosexual woman if they can give birth. Again, I would venture that they would say yes again.

I could care less what gays do, but leave marriage the way it was meant and designed to be.

Absolutely agree. Ban divorce.

There is a reason that two sexes exist and not just one

Again, I agree. The reason for the two is the pro-creation of the species. Don't confuse this with love, marriage, or anything silly like that. The purpose of man (or any species) is to continue.

 

[Sweet_Bitch]

having sex is equated with being intimate, making love is higher form of that, concieving is the ultimate event that can occur from sex. Homosexuals are incapable of this, no one has proven anything I said as wrong. I could care less what gays do, but leave marriage the way it was meant and designed to be. THe only thing being done here is dodging and ignoring what my intent with what I said was.

There is a reason that two sexes exist and not just one

Having sex is referred to as being intimate by those who can't say they just got fucked. Making love is a higher from of sex, I'll agree. But the ultimate event that can occur from sex is orgasm. LOL. Homosexuals are more then capable of being intimate and making love and while they can not technically conceive they must certainly can be parents, which has been deemed as the ulitmate event in an adults life, not just their sex lives, which is but a fraction of the overall picture. There is certainly a reason that two sexes exist, just as there is a reason that more then one species of animal exist-to provide choice. Some chose men, some women, some furry four-legged woodland creatures. To each his own. The sanctity of marriage was fucked up a long time ago, why not let someone else try to get it right?

 

[Kroliczek]

I think that what is happening here is a confusion about the word marriage. According to definition, "marriage." Here is the biblical definition of marriage for all you people who are so concentric on keeping Church marriages so sacred!


1. Marriage in the United States shall consist of a union between one man and one or more women. (Gen 29:17-28; II Sam 3:2-5)

2. Marriage shall not impede a man's right to take concubines, in addition to his wife or wives. (II Sam 5:13; I Kings 11:3; II Chron 11:21)

3. A marriage shall be considered valid only if the wife is a virgin. If the wife is not a virgin, she shall be executed. (Deut 22:13-21)

4. Marriage of a believer and a non-believer shall be forbidden. (Gen 24:3; Num 25:1-9; Ezra 9:12; Neh 10:30)

5. Since marriage is for life, neither this Constitution nor the constitution of any State, nor any state or federal law, shall be construed to permit divorce. (Deut 22:19; Mark 10:9)

6. If a married man dies without children, his brother shall marry the widow. If he refuses to marry his brother's widow or deliberately does not give her children, he shall pay a fine of one shoe, and be otherwise punished in a manner to be determined by law. (Gen. 38:6-10; Deut 25:5-10)

SOURCE:
http://christianity.about.com/cs/christianhumor/a/biblemarriage.htm



WITH THESE REQUISITES, NOONE IN THE US WOULD BE MARRIED!!!!!!

 

[gregory]

I felt the same way until it hit very close to home for me. Being gay is NOT a choice! You can't help who you like!

It's a subconscious choice. It's a learned behavior that can be treated and you have to stop stroking and accepting it in a such a menner as if the person told you they have aids. The guy has a problem being intimate with women and feels more comfortable with men, hmm looks like a job for a shrink to me.

 

[Kroliczek]

It's a subconscious choice. It's a learned behavior that can be treated and you have to stop stroking and accepting it in a such a menner as if the person told you they have aids. The guy has a problem being intimate with women and feels more comfortable with men, hmm looks like a job for a shrink to me.

I am sorry but I have known 'the guy' since he was born. I always knew that he was 'different' than other guys. Now I understand how. How do you explain his behavior pattern, since he had behaved 'differently' since before he even knew about how to make a conscious choice to act 'differently??'

 

[Sweet_Bitch]

I am refering to the general reasoning you display in most of your responses on this thread. nuff said. Noone wins an argument. This is not a debate but an argument and a pointless one at that. Marriage is not for gays. Find another institution and name it what you want, but not marriage, make it legal and what not but leave our religion out of it. Tis the jist of it.

It's a discussion, not an arguement It just happens to be a bit heated in areas. Marriage is too jacked up of an institution anymore for anyone to be able to say who should or should not be able to participate in it.