How about the gay marriage bans!?!?!

[bdog527]

(No Y you can't marry your sister)

Well then can I marry his sister?

*Note, in light of this recent turn of events I will need Ylifter to post pics of said sister. Also, I hope she is rich.*

 

[metzen]

Wow you are so close minded. What in the HELL does your six year old daughter have to do with same sex marriages??? We are not talking about legalizing pedifilia, we are talking about two consenting adults who are in love with each other being allowed to have a legal union in the eyes of the law. This has NOTHING to do with pedifilia, beastiality or any of the other things you people have mentioned.

Homosexuality is not learned behavior, it is genetic. What do you want to do next, bring back laws that will punish people for having dark skin... or reduce rights of people with blue eyes????

See you’re mistaking homosexuality as being a genetic.
There is no conclusive or compelling empirical evidence showing that it is.


The myth came from Dr. Simon Levay who showed research which supported homosexuality as a result of genetics but later had to had to come out and clarify what he meant because the media started reporting a "gay gene". He stated "I did not find a genetic cause for orientation". His study results have never been duplicated.

Actually evidence strongly suggests it's more of a result of environmental, familial, and personal influences.

There have been decades of successful treatment of homosexuals and many reputable studies showing it is a learned behavior.

Saying it is genetic it not very bright because you cannot support that argument.

So why couldn't I marry my daughter? or sister? Who are you to say she is to young and confused?

Compare the chances of gays having kids to 2 infertile people. Before the marraige we could look at the gay couple and state "there is no chance of having kids". You could not do that with an infertile couple without running numerous tests.

 

[Sweet_Bitch]

There have been decades of successful treatment of homosexuals and many reputable studies showing it is a learned behavior.

Saying it is genetic it not very bright because you cannot support that argument.

Treatment of homosexuals? So now they've been reduced to a group of people who need to be "treated" due to their lifestyle? Why not call them convicts or drug addicts? There's 2 groups of people that we "treat" due to their lifestyle. Oh wait, we do that because they are harming themselves or others. Being gay doesn't harm anyone. Period. Being gay and wishing to be married doesn't harm anyone either.

One could go on for hours arguing the genetic vs. learned issue. There are many things that have not been conclusively proven by science, including this. Until it is proven, conclusively, how can anyone be referred to as wrong or even as "not very bright"?

I'm just saying....

 

[starfish]

Actually, homosexual behavior has been documented in over 200 species of animals.


Guess they "learned" it too because it's not natural

 

[metzen]

Treatment of homosexuals? So now they've been reduced to a group of people who need to be "treated" due to their lifestyle? Why not call them convicts or drug addicts? There's 2 groups of people that we "treat" due to their lifestyle. Oh wait, we do that because they are harming themselves or others. Being gay doesn't harm anyone. Period. Being gay and wishing to be married doesn't harm anyone either.

One could go on for hours arguing the genetic vs. learned issue. There are many things that have not been conclusively proven by science, including this. Until it is proven, conclusively, how can anyone be referred to as wrong or even as "not very bright"?

I'm just saying....

Being gay doesn't harm anyone. Thats were you are wrong. Gay men are the highest transmitters of the aids virus. Now if one were to stay in a long time relationship the results would be different.

There are many things that have not been conclusively proven by science.
Homosexaulity being a result of genetics is just that. You cannot state that it is with no supporting evidence.

For the few gay people that have wanted to change the results have been very successful. Thats all I meant by treatment.


Now I wanted to start smoking when I was a kid. Does that mean I must have a gene for it? No one in my family history has ever smoked so I must have had someone inject that gene into me. And just because I have that urge does not mean I should follow it.

 

[gregory]

Actually, homosexual behavior has been documented in over 200 species of animals.


Guess they "learned" it too because it's not natural

Don't confuse one act of homosexual sex as being homosexual 100% of the time.

 

[gregory]

IMO Gay marriage is wrong. Marriage is a sacret bond and a tradition that heterosexual couples have been nurturing for millenia. It's part of our values and a foundation to our society. We (heterosexual) have a right to protect our traditions for they are a foundation to propagatng our species. Gay groups need to leave this issue alone. Invent a new ceremony for yourself and call it whatever you want, but this one is not for you. Get over it and move on, if you're a gay male or female you live with a difficult choice in life and i don't bash or put down any gay people but it's simply a matter of respect between the two groups. Some boundries always need to remain.

 

[Sweet_Bitch]

Being gay doesn't harm anyone. Thats were you are wrong. Gay men are the highest transmitters of the aids virus. Now if one were to stay in a long time relationship the results would be different.

There are many things that have not been conclusively proven by science.
Homosexaulity being a result of genetics is just that. You cannot state that it is with no supporting evidence.

For the few gay people that have wanted to change the results have been very successful. Thats all I meant by treatment.


Now I wanted to start smoking when I was a kid. Does that mean I must have a gene for it? No one in my family history has ever smoked so I must have had someone inject that gene into me. And just because I have that urge does not mean I should follow it.

I forgot, AIDS is a "gay" disease. Silly me. They sure as hell aren't the only transmitters, more then enough heterosexuals transmitting that shit everyday. "We", being the heterosexuals, have no room-at all-to throw stones. Your comment about "if one were to stay in a long term relationship"-fucking ridiculous. For the same reasons. Countless hetero's out there fucking and dumping. And I'd like to clarify, I did not say that it was or was not genetic, in fact in a previous post I flat out said I didn't know.

I did start smoking when I was a kid. no one in my family smokes. No one injected me with a gene. By this example, you're right. Homosexuality is a learned behavior. But we're talking about smoking-one has nothing to with the other. People have urges all the time (think Bundy, Dahmer, your friendly neighborhood druggie), should they act on them? Can they resist? Yes, I made the choice to start smoking. I didn't make a choice not be gay-I just knew I wasn't.

Smoking could kill you, sex (gay or straight) could kill you, walking down the driveway to get the mail could kill you. Pledging your life to someone that you love will not. (OK, there may be some exceptions to that )

I ask you this in reponse, can a murderer or pedophile be treated and successfully changed? What causes them to do what they do? Is it learned?Is it genetic? Does the explanation validate the behavior?

 

[EnderJE]

So why couldn't I marry my daughter? or sister? Who are you to say she is to young and confused?

Well, for one thing, your daughter is a child. If she was an adult, then like Y said, move to Tenn!

Compare the chances of gays having kids to 2 infertile people. Before the marraige we could look at the gay couple and state "there is no chance of having kids". You could not do that with an infertile couple without running numerous tests.

That's true, but I'm not sure of the point there. Under a previous post, both would be considered defective couples and should not be allowed to marry.

 

[Sweet_Bitch]

Well, for one thing, your daughter is a child. If she was an adult, then like Y said, move to Tenn!


That's true, but I'm not sure of the point there. Under a previous post, both would be considered defective couples and should not be allowed to marry.

All you can definitivly say of a gay couple is that they can not have children in the traditional ways. Am I wrong? Can you not be artifically inseminated? Can you not have a surragote? (Go me-way to spell the big words!!) Are these not some of the same options open to hetero couples?