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Hop off or extend cycle (beginner please help)

Cray21

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Hello, I am currently on my first cycle:

6 weeks 300 test
6* weeks 500 test

I am almost at week 12 and want to know if I should hop off or extend to 16 weeks

I have bloodwork for my doctor due in December and I need to have natty bloodwork because I am hiding my gear use from my parents.

My progress has significantly plateaud on cycle. Weight has been stuck at 180 (started 160) for like 4 weeks now even though I keep upping calories. my lifts have been going crazy, but measurements like arms and quads not really moving.

Did I fuck up my first cycle ??? I feel like it is kinda underwhelming. Although I have not gained much fat which is mog, I want to be huge

Calories around 3300-3500 per day high protein

My health and labs are all great I have pretty mogger health genes
 
Hello, I am currently on my first cycle:

6 weeks 300 test
6* weeks 500 test

I am almost at week 12 and want to know if I should hop off or extend to 16 weeks

I have bloodwork for my doctor due in December and I need to have natty bloodwork because I am hiding my gear use from my parents.

My progress has significantly plateaud on cycle. Weight has been stuck at 180 (started 160) for like 4 weeks now even though I keep upping calories. my lifts have been going crazy, but measurements like arms and quads not really moving.

Did I fuck up my first cycle ??? I feel like it is kinda underwhelming. Although I have not gained much fat which is mog, I want to be huge

Calories around 3300-3500 per day high protein

My health and labs are all great I have pretty mogger health genes
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Hello, I am currently on my first cycle:

6 weeks 300 test
6* weeks 500 test

I am almost at week 12 and want to know if I should hop off or extend to 16 weeks

I have bloodwork for my doctor due in December and I need to have natty bloodwork because I am hiding my gear use from my parents.

My progress has significantly plateaud on cycle. Weight has been stuck at 180 (started 160) for like 4 weeks now even though I keep upping calories. my lifts have been going crazy, but measurements like arms and quads not really moving.

Did I fuck up my first cycle ??? I feel like it is kinda underwhelming. Although I have not gained much fat which is mog, I want to be huge

Calories around 3300-3500 per day high protein

My health and labs are all great I have pretty mogger health genes
Hey brother!

Do you have your bloods from when you were on 300 Test a week? Before you decided to increase?

At 22 you have full bodily autonomy and can request parents not see medical records etc if you’re that worried. Call your GP and talk to them, book an over the phone appointment.

What makes you think you stuffed up your first cycle? Is it the stagnated weight? Realistically that can be due to a lot of different factors BUT gear isn’t a magic pill, you won’t be David laid after 1 cycle so PLEASE don’t compare yourself to influencers etc who you see out there

Don’t beat yourself up🙏
 
Hey brother!

Do you have your bloods from when you were on 300 Test a week? Before you decided to increase?

At 22 you have full bodily autonomy and can request parents not see medical records etc if you’re that worried. Call your GP and talk to them, book an over the phone appointment.

What makes you think you stuffed up your first cycle? Is it the stagnated weight? Realistically that can be due to a lot of different factors BUT gear isn’t a magic pill, you won’t be David laid after 1 cycle so PLEASE don’t compare yourself to influencers etc who you see out there

Don’t beat yourself up🙏
WBC4.5 4.0 - 11.0 k/mm3
RBC5.18 4.30 - 6.00 m/mm3
Hemoglobin16.5 13.5 - 17.0 g/dL
Hematocrit48.8 40.0 - 53.0 %
MCV94.2 78.0 - 100.0 fL
MCH31.9 27.0 - 34.0 pg
MCHC33.8 31.0 - 37.0 g/dL
Platelet Count268 130 - 450 k/mm3
RDW(sd)45.7 38.0 - 49.0 fL
RDW(cv)13.2 11.0 - 15.0 %
MPV10.3 9.0 - 12.0 fL
Segmented Neutrophils66.9 %
Automated Diff
Lymphocytes20.3 %
Monocytes10.4 %
Eosinophils2.0 %
Basophils0.2 %
Absolute Neutrophil3.0 1.5 - 7.8 k/uL
Absolute Lymphocyte0.9 0.9 - 3.9 k/uL
Absolute Monocyte0.5 0.2 - 1.0 k/uL
Absolute Eosinophil0.1 0.0 - 0.6 k/uL
Absolute Basophil0.0 0.0 - 0.2 k/uL
Immature Granulocytes0.2 %
Absolute Immature Granulocytes0.0 0.0 - 0.1 k/uL
NRBC RE, Nucleated Red Blood Cell Percent0.0 0.0 - 1.0 %

38055 - TSH with Reflex Free T4​

Reported8/12/2026 1:59 AMStatusFinalLab NameSonora Quest Laboratories - Tempe
Test NameResultFlagsReference Range
TSH, High Sensitivity1.58 0.27 - 4.20 mU/L

9201 - Estradiol Total​

Reported8/12/2026 1:59 AMStatusFinalLab NameSonora Quest Laboratories - Tempe
Test NameResultFlagsReference Range
Estradiol Total64*H<=44 pg/mL
Estradiol Reference Ranges:
Estradiol Adult Reference Ranges:
Follicular: 12-233 pg/mL
Ovulation: 41-398 pg/mL
Luteal: 22-341 pg/mL
Postmenopausal: <139 pg/mL
Pregnancy (1st Trimester): 154-3243 pg/mL
Pregnancy (2nd Trimester): 1561-21280 pg/mL
Pregnancy (3rd Trimester): >8525 pg/mL

Male Reference Range: <45 pg/mL

No reference ranges established for pediatric patients.

907280 - Testosterone, Free, Total, and Bioavailable (Adult Males)​

Reported8/12/2026 1:59 AMStatusFinalLab NameSonora Quest Laboratories - Tempe
Test NameResultFlagsReference Range
Testosterone, Total2613*H240 - 1022 ng/dL
Testosterone, Bioavailable1925.1*H61.0 - 257.0 ng/L
Testosterone, Free722.2*H35.0 - 155.0 pg/mL
Free and bioavailable testosterone was derived using a mass-action
equation that employs defined constants for the binding of
testosterone to albumin and sex-hormone binding globulin (Clin Chem.
2006; 52(9): 1777-1784).

900323 - Comprehensive Metabolic Panel​

Reported8/12/2026 1:59 AMStatusFinalLab NameSonora Quest Laboratories - Tempe
Test NameResultFlagsReference Range
Glucose86 70 - 99 mg/dL
Glucose reference range reflects fasting state.
Urea Nitrogen (BUN)12 7 - 21 mg/dL
Creatinine1.17 0.68 - 1.37 mg/dL
eGFRcr CKD-EPI90 >=60 mL/min/1.73m2
eGFRcr calculated using the CKD-EPI 2021 equation
BUN/Creatinine Ratio10.3 10.0 - 28.0
Sodium138 135 - 145 mmol/L
Potassium4.2 3.6 - 5.3 mmol/L
Chloride100 98 - 108 mmol/L
Carbon Dioxide (CO2)27 20 - 31 mmol/L
Anion Gap11 4 - 18
Protein, Total7.2 6.3 - 8.0 g/dL
Albumin4.9 3.8 - 5.1 g/dL
Globulin2.3 1.7 - 3.3 g/dL
Albumin/Globulin Ratio2.1 1.3 - 2.7
Calcium9.9 8.7 - 10.4 mg/dL
Alkaline Phosphatase115 40 - 140 IU/L
Alanine Aminotransferase41 5 - 60 IU/L
Aspartate Aminotransferase34 12 - 47 IU/L
Bilirubin, Total2.0*H<=1.2 mg/dL

1877 - Lipid Panel​

Reported8/12/2026 1:59 AMStatusFinalLab NameSonora Quest Laboratories - Tempe
Test NameResultFlagsReference Range
Cholesterol115 <=199 mg/dL
Triglycerides47 <=149 mg/dL
Cholesterol/HDL Ratio3.0 <=4.9
HDL Cholesterol38*L>=40 mg/dL
Non-HDL Cholesterol77 <=129 mg/dL
LDL Cholesterol, Calculated67 <=99 mg/dL
LDL-C is calculated by using the Martin-Hopkins equation. (JAMA.
2013;310(19):2061-2068)
For moderately high risk and high risk cardiac patients, reference
levels of <100 mg/dL and <70 mg/dL, respectively, should be
considered. Circulation 2004; 110:227-239.
VLDL Cholesterol10 <=29 mg/dL

9230 - Hemoglobin A1c With eAG​

Reported8/12/2026 1:59 AMStatusFinalLab NameSonora Quest Laboratories - Tempe
Test NameResultFlagsReference Range
Hemoglobin A1c4.9 <=5.6 %
The American Diabetes Association (ADA) guidelines for interpreting
Hemoglobin A1c are as follows:
Non-Diabetic patient: <=5.6%
Increased risk for future Diabetes: 5.7-6.4%
ADA diagnostic criteria for Diabetes: >=6.5%

For most patients, a reasonable goal for therapy is <7%. For patients
with limited life expectancy or where the harms of treatment are
greater than the benefits, a goal of <8% may be more appropriate. In
pregnant patients, a more stringent goal of <6% may be appropriate or
<7% if there is a risk of hypoglycemia. Diabetes Care. 2023; 46(Suppl
1):S254-S266.
Estimated Average Glucose (eAG)94 Not Established
If the presence of a hemoglobin variant is suspected, do not use %
HbA1c results for diagnosis of diabetes mellitus.

In uncontrolled diabetics, high levels of Hemoglobin F (Hb F) may be
present. Presence of Hb F greater than 7% of total may result in
lower than expected % HbA1c.

Any cause that shortens erythrocyte survival or decreases mean
erythrocyte age may reduce expected % HbA1c values even in the
presence of elevated average blood glucose. Causes may include
hemolytic disease, homozygous sickle cell trait, pregnancy, and
recent significant/chronic blood loss. In addition, recent blood
transfusions can alter expected % HbA1c values.

1054 - RPR Screen w/Reflex RPR Titer and TP-PA​

Reported8/12/2026 1:59 AMStatusFinalLab NameSonora Quest Laboratories - Tempe
Test NameResultFlagsReference Range
RPR ScreenNonreactive Nonreactive

3682 - HIV 1/2 Ag and Abs, Fourth Generation, w/Reflexes​

Reported8/12/2026 1:59 AMStatusFinalLab NameSonora Quest Laboratories - Tempe
Test NameResultFlagsReference Range
HIV 1/2 Screen (CHIV)Nonreactive Nonreactive
Negative for HIV-1 antigen and HIV-1/HIV-2 antibodies. No laboratory
evidence of HIV infection.
 
Hey brother!

Do you have your bloods from when you were on 300 Test a week? Before you decided to increase?

At 22 you have full bodily autonomy and can request parents not see medical records etc if you’re that worried. Call your GP and talk to them, book an over the phone appointment.

What makes you think you stuffed up your first cycle? Is it the stagnated weight? Realistically that can be due to a lot of different factors BUT gear isn’t a magic pill, you won’t be David laid after 1 cycle so PLEASE don’t compare yourself to influencers etc who you see out there

Don’t beat yourself up🙏
My weight has probably plateud a lot probably because I dropped my oral minoxidil dose and stopped eating bullshit with high sodium. I didnt really track my diet well for the first 9 weeks because I was partying hella but I was getting lots of food in.

Is 20lbs good for 12 weeks? How much lean mass did I realistically gain. All the roiders on other forms are telling me im a dumbbass and 16 weeks minimum. I have definitely put on good mass. Strength numbers sky rocketed. Im genetically small bone structure and low bf, so looking like david laid one day is a genuine possibility, it just is hard for me to put on mass.
 
Hello, I am currently on my first cycle:

6 weeks 300 test
6* weeks 500 test

I am almost at week 12 and want to know if I should hop off or extend to 16 weeks

I have bloodwork for my doctor due in December and I need to have natty bloodwork because I am hiding my gear use from my parents.

My progress has significantly plateaud on cycle. Weight has been stuck at 180 (started 160) for like 4 weeks now even though I keep upping calories. my lifts have been going crazy, but measurements like arms and quads not really moving.

Did I fuck up my first cycle ??? I feel like it is kinda underwhelming. Although I have not gained much fat which is mog, I want to be huge

Calories around 3300-3500 per day high protein

My health and labs are all great I have pretty mogger health genes
you 22 and you have to hide from parents bro?
WBC4.54.0 - 11.0 k/mm3
RBC5.184.30 - 6.00 m/mm3
Hemoglobin16.513.5 - 17.0 g/dL
Hematocrit48.840.0 - 53.0 %
MCV94.278.0 - 100.0 fL
MCH31.927.0 - 34.0 pg
MCHC33.831.0 - 37.0 g/dL
Platelet Count268130 - 450 k/mm3
RDW(sd)45.738.0 - 49.0 fL
RDW(cv)13.211.0 - 15.0 %
MPV10.39.0 - 12.0 fL
Segmented Neutrophils66.9%
Automated Diff
Lymphocytes20.3%
Monocytes10.4%
Eosinophils2.0%
Basophils0.2%
Absolute Neutrophil3.01.5 - 7.8 k/uL
Absolute Lymphocyte0.90.9 - 3.9 k/uL
Absolute Monocyte0.50.2 - 1.0 k/uL
Absolute Eosinophil0.10.0 - 0.6 k/uL
Absolute Basophil0.00.0 - 0.2 k/uL
Immature Granulocytes0.2%
Absolute Immature Granulocytes0.00.0 - 0.1 k/uL
NRBC RE, Nucleated Red Blood Cell Percent0.00.0 - 1.0 %

38055 - TSH with Reflex Free T4​

Reported8/12/2026 1:59 AMStatusFinalLab NameSonora Quest Laboratories - Tempe
Test NameResultFlagsReference Range
TSH, High Sensitivity1.580.27 - 4.20 mU/L

9201 - Estradiol Total​

Reported8/12/2026 1:59 AMStatusFinalLab NameSonora Quest Laboratories - Tempe
Test NameResultFlagsReference Range
Estradiol Total64*H<=44 pg/mL
Estradiol Reference Ranges:
Estradiol Adult Reference Ranges:
Follicular: 12-233 pg/mL
Ovulation: 41-398 pg/mL
Luteal: 22-341 pg/mL
Postmenopausal: <139 pg/mL
Pregnancy (1st Trimester): 154-3243 pg/mL
Pregnancy (2nd Trimester): 1561-21280 pg/mL
Pregnancy (3rd Trimester): >8525 pg/mL

Male Reference Range: <45 pg/mL

No reference ranges established for pediatric patients.

907280 - Testosterone, Free, Total, and Bioavailable (Adult Males)​

Reported8/12/2026 1:59 AMStatusFinalLab NameSonora Quest Laboratories - Tempe
Test NameResultFlagsReference Range
Testosterone, Total2613*H240 - 1022 ng/dL
Testosterone, Bioavailable1925.1*H61.0 - 257.0 ng/L
Testosterone, Free722.2*H35.0 - 155.0 pg/mL
Free and bioavailable testosterone was derived using a mass-action
equation that employs defined constants for the binding of
testosterone to albumin and sex-hormone binding globulin (Clin Chem.
2006; 52(9): 1777-1784).

900323 - Comprehensive Metabolic Panel​

Reported8/12/2026 1:59 AMStatusFinalLab NameSonora Quest Laboratories - Tempe
Test NameResultFlagsReference Range
Glucose8670 - 99 mg/dL
Glucose reference range reflects fasting state.
Urea Nitrogen (BUN)127 - 21 mg/dL
Creatinine1.170.68 - 1.37 mg/dL
eGFRcr CKD-EPI90>=60 mL/min/1.73m2
eGFRcr calculated using the CKD-EPI 2021 equation
BUN/Creatinine Ratio10.310.0 - 28.0
Sodium138135 - 145 mmol/L
Potassium4.23.6 - 5.3 mmol/L
Chloride10098 - 108 mmol/L
Carbon Dioxide (CO2)2720 - 31 mmol/L
Anion Gap114 - 18
Protein, Total7.26.3 - 8.0 g/dL
Albumin4.93.8 - 5.1 g/dL
Globulin2.31.7 - 3.3 g/dL
Albumin/Globulin Ratio2.11.3 - 2.7
Calcium9.98.7 - 10.4 mg/dL
Alkaline Phosphatase11540 - 140 IU/L
Alanine Aminotransferase415 - 60 IU/L
Aspartate Aminotransferase3412 - 47 IU/L
Bilirubin, Total2.0*H<=1.2 mg/dL

1877 - Lipid Panel​

Reported8/12/2026 1:59 AMStatusFinalLab NameSonora Quest Laboratories - Tempe
Test NameResultFlagsReference Range
Cholesterol115<=199 mg/dL
Triglycerides47<=149 mg/dL
Cholesterol/HDL Ratio3.0<=4.9
HDL Cholesterol38*L>=40 mg/dL
Non-HDL Cholesterol77<=129 mg/dL
LDL Cholesterol, Calculated67<=99 mg/dL
LDL-C is calculated by using the Martin-Hopkins equation. (JAMA.
2013;310(19):2061-2068)
For moderately high risk and high risk cardiac patients, reference
levels of <100 mg/dL and <70 mg/dL, respectively, should be
considered. Circulation 2004; 110:227-239.
VLDL Cholesterol10<=29 mg/dL

9230 - Hemoglobin A1c With eAG​

Reported8/12/2026 1:59 AMStatusFinalLab NameSonora Quest Laboratories - Tempe
Test NameResultFlagsReference Range
Hemoglobin A1c4.9<=5.6 %
The American Diabetes Association (ADA) guidelines for interpreting
Hemoglobin A1c are as follows:
Non-Diabetic patient: <=5.6%
Increased risk for future Diabetes: 5.7-6.4%
ADA diagnostic criteria for Diabetes: >=6.5%

For most patients, a reasonable goal for therapy is <7%. For patients
with limited life expectancy or where the harms of treatment are
greater than the benefits, a goal of <8% may be more appropriate. In
pregnant patients, a more stringent goal of <6% may be appropriate or
<7% if there is a risk of hypoglycemia. Diabetes Care. 2023; 46(Suppl
1):S254-S266.
Estimated Average Glucose (eAG)94Not Established
If the presence of a hemoglobin variant is suspected, do not use %
HbA1c results for diagnosis of diabetes mellitus.

In uncontrolled diabetics, high levels of Hemoglobin F (Hb F) may be
present. Presence of Hb F greater than 7% of total may result in
lower than expected % HbA1c.

Any cause that shortens erythrocyte survival or decreases mean
erythrocyte age may reduce expected % HbA1c values even in the
presence of elevated average blood glucose. Causes may include
hemolytic disease, homozygous sickle cell trait, pregnancy, and
recent significant/chronic blood loss. In addition, recent blood
transfusions can alter expected % HbA1c values.

1054 - RPR Screen w/Reflex RPR Titer and TP-PA​

Reported8/12/2026 1:59 AMStatusFinalLab NameSonora Quest Laboratories - Tempe
Test NameResultFlagsReference Range
RPR ScreenNonreactiveNonreactive

3682 - HIV 1/2 Ag and Abs, Fourth Generation, w/Reflexes​

Reported8/12/2026 1:59 AMStatusFinalLab NameSonora Quest Laboratories - Tempe
Test NameResultFlagsReference Range
HIV 1/2 Screen (CHIV)NonreactiveNonreactive
Negative for HIV-1 antigen and HIV-1/HIV-2 antibodies. No laboratory
evidence of HIV infection.
estrogen high AF bro that needs to come down

why aint you got a log up?

@Grumpy1 @abolone @koba @gar71 @BSS @Scuffer @Oths @ChewedSleek
 
you 22 and you have to hide from parents bro?
Still in college freeloading off them so I have to follow their rules. They woukd murder me if they found my roiding. Type of people who were scared of me taking creatine.
why aint you got a log up?
Idk how to do a proper log but here is an example exercise

3️⃣ Leg Extension

7/8/26 - 145 (12 reps)
7/13/26 - 160 (12 reps)
7/19/26 - 205 (10 reps)
7/31/26 - 225 (10 reps)
8/13/26 - 255 (8 reps)
8/20/26 - 265 (10 reps)
8/27/26 - 265 (13 reps)
9/3/26 - 285 (10 reps)
9/10/26 - 305 (10 reps)

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Still in college freeloading off them so I have to follow their rules. They woukd murder me if they found my roiding. Type of people who were scared of me taking creatine.

Idk how to do a proper log but here is an example exercise

3️⃣ Leg Extension

7/8/26 - 145 (12 reps)
7/13/26 - 160 (12 reps)
7/19/26 - 205 (10 reps)
7/31/26 - 225 (10 reps)
8/13/26 - 255 (8 reps)
8/20/26 - 265 (10 reps)
8/27/26 - 265 (13 reps)
9/3/26 - 285 (10 reps)
9/10/26 - 305 (10 reps)

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There are many logs on here that you can check out to get a gauge of how it’s done. Start throwing up a log, and attach some pics, more info and we can help guide you.
 
I’m not the best example of a 100% dedicated log BUT


Give mine a geeze, it covers most bases
 
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