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The VFR looks sweet as well.
Its making my next bike choice difficult.
The VFR looks sweet as well.
Its making my next bike choice difficult.
Honda 954RR looks like capable weapon.
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r00+, it should NEVER be about the "image". Shame shame.
If you have ever been on one as I have then you would know it isn't the best choice just because of Carl Fogarty's success at bringing it into domination. However that era ended as soon as Fogorty retired. Colin Edwards is putten some heat on the Duc's. I personally wouldn't mind having an RC51. (I've never had a V-twin before)
You can ride any of these fine steads (Ducati 916 or 900ss, Aprilia RSV Mille R, MV Agusta F4 SPR) but it dosn't matter if one you can't afford it, or two they bend you up like a paper clip. Such as the 916, 996. Also exclusivity isn't all that its made up to be. To guys like me motorcycling is ZEN. Its in the doing not the brand name.
http://www.geocities.co.jp/MotorCity-Rally/2341/sub32.htm
I'm no where near these guy's level. I just what a nice sport bike for the occasional track day and the weekend mountain carving. The CBR 954 RR looks like a capable weapon. (not to mention will cost almost half as much as the others you listed.)
If you have ever been on one as I have then you would know it isn't the best choice just because of Carl Fogarty's success at bringing it into domination. However that era ended as soon as Fogorty retired. Colin Edwards is putten some heat on the Duc's. I personally wouldn't mind having an RC51. (I've never had a V-twin before)
You can ride any of these fine steads (Ducati 916 or 900ss, Aprilia RSV Mille R, MV Agusta F4 SPR) but it dosn't matter if one you can't afford it, or two they bend you up like a paper clip. Such as the 916, 996. Also exclusivity isn't all that its made up to be. To guys like me motorcycling is ZEN. Its in the doing not the brand name.
http://www.geocities.co.jp/MotorCity-Rally/2341/sub32.htm
I'm no where near these guy's level. I just what a nice sport bike for the occasional track day and the weekend mountain carving. The CBR 954 RR looks like a capable weapon. (not to mention will cost almost half as much as the others you listed.)
The 900SS is an option. However if or when I lay it over I must take into consideration the price of parts. Nevertheless a beautiful bike though.
10k area is my personal cut off.
I remember riding a club members YB11 Bimota as I was about to take her around for a spin he says "becareful my plastic cost as much as your bike." Needles to say I didn't enjoy the Bimota as much as I could have. At the time I had a ZX-7R.
10k area is my personal cut off.
I remember riding a club members YB11 Bimota as I was about to take her around for a spin he says "becareful my plastic cost as much as your bike." Needles to say I didn't enjoy the Bimota as much as I could have. At the time I had a ZX-7R.
Hayabusa is a pig compared to an R1. Besides its really a "sport tourer".
Those that mention Ducati, Aprilia, Agusta MV (actually the MV havn't been proven track worthy yet) But any way you take Ben Bostrum and put him on any bike and he'll no doubt come out on top. Just because he rides a Ducati dosn't mean I can maximize the potential of the bike like him. Actually if anyone of us could we would be wasting our time in any other profession.
Sport Rider did a 4 bike comparo with the R6, R1, RC51 and the GSX-R750. The R1 cam out on top though. In that same issue they did a comparo with the GSX-R 750 and a MV. The reults were "In terms of outright performance the 2000 model Gixxer stomps all over the Agusta F4".
Aside from that you have to factor in "bang for the buck" the Japanese bikes are the right choice.
Those that mention Ducati, Aprilia, Agusta MV (actually the MV havn't been proven track worthy yet) But any way you take Ben Bostrum and put him on any bike and he'll no doubt come out on top. Just because he rides a Ducati dosn't mean I can maximize the potential of the bike like him. Actually if anyone of us could we would be wasting our time in any other profession.
Sport Rider did a 4 bike comparo with the R6, R1, RC51 and the GSX-R750. The R1 cam out on top though. In that same issue they did a comparo with the GSX-R 750 and a MV. The reults were "In terms of outright performance the 2000 model Gixxer stomps all over the Agusta F4".
Aside from that you have to factor in "bang for the buck" the Japanese bikes are the right choice.
The R1 is awesome love the new look to.
But 370lbs. claimed dry weight is going to make it tougher than ever to claim Bike of the Year.
http://www.hondamotorcycles.com/models/2002/index.html?model_number=CBR954RR
http://www.yamaha-motor.com/products/products.asp?lid=2&lc=mcy&rdir=1
However that black and silver looks sweet.
But 370lbs. claimed dry weight is going to make it tougher than ever to claim Bike of the Year.
http://www.hondamotorcycles.com/models/2002/index.html?model_number=CBR954RR
http://www.yamaha-motor.com/products/products.asp?lid=2&lc=mcy&rdir=1
However that black and silver looks sweet.
r00+ said:
LOL! Have you ever ridden a bike? First of all the WSB bikes are $150k+, they're far far from stock. Secondly the Ducati is a 996, not a 900/916. Yamaha owned that class with their R7 until Haga got disqualified for testing positive for ephedrine. Fucking pathetic.
The Hayabusa handles like a piece of shit compared to the 750. You can't even compare them. The 1300 is huge.
Drew Carey
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I've ridden some of the bikes mentioned here. I currently own a Honda Blackbird and if I was going to trade her in I would look at the Honda 954 or the Aprilia Mille or if the price is right the Mille R. I like the sound of Ducs and often you can find the right price (at least around here). However the maintence on the 996 motor is very crucial to long life. The recommended valve adjustment is 5-9K miles. These motor have no valve springs, just rocker arms to open/close the valves. So its more of a rocker adjustment than a spring adjustment. Most tune-ups in this nature at the dealership will cost you around $800. And in front/rear tire, oil change,and possible new brake pads and you have about $1400 a season in riding cost. Some of this stuff you can do at home but unless you are a Duc trained mechanic I wouldn't recommend touching that motor. BTW the ST4 has the same motor has the 996 and requires the same maintence. Strange considering its marketed as a sport touring motorcycle. Again don't take my word for this. You can ask the guys at the Duc dealer. Ask the service guys not the salesmen for this info. I'm sure they will tell you even higher and scarier ppriced info about this bike. As far for performance its more of a track bike. Very good on smooth twisty roads but not very good as far as day to day traveling.
I do about 10K a year on my bikes so comfort and reliabilty are issues with me. I like Honda because other than voltage regulators I've had any problems. Same with Kaws. I never owned a Suz or Yam. I have ridden many GSXR and GSXFs and found them very powerful. The GSXRs ofcourse have the most power and braking but the least in comfort. So was the R1 I used for a weekend. I have only test ridden a 929 but found it to be really comfty.
As far as twins I have only ridden a TLR and loved it. I would really consider buying this bike if I could afford a second bike to take the woman out on. Very good low speed pulling power. Its a twin so it builds all its power down low.
Not sure if my opinions helped but good luck on your purchase.
I do about 10K a year on my bikes so comfort and reliabilty are issues with me. I like Honda because other than voltage regulators I've had any problems. Same with Kaws. I never owned a Suz or Yam. I have ridden many GSXR and GSXFs and found them very powerful. The GSXRs ofcourse have the most power and braking but the least in comfort. So was the R1 I used for a weekend. I have only test ridden a 929 but found it to be really comfty.
As far as twins I have only ridden a TLR and loved it. I would really consider buying this bike if I could afford a second bike to take the woman out on. Very good low speed pulling power. Its a twin so it builds all its power down low.
Not sure if my opinions helped but good luck on your purchase.
Drew Carey
New member
conan69 said:
You are so right. The Gsxr is ONE SERIOUS machine. I've seen some guys already do the pipe/power commander route in search of more power. None is really need on THAT bike. IMO this is too much bike for most people. My bike is now at the 150+ hp range and at 100 lbs more weight. Even it is too much at times.
I'm glad you mention the ZX-12. I forgot about it. That is also a nice bike. Not as comfty as the XX but has much more power. Drinks alot though.
