Holy Pump in my shoulders

[Debaser]

do you have any pics? i would like to compare your shoulder development to that of sweeds, not because im insulting either one of your training methods, but according to your logic (which i am not saying is wrong in any way) your delts must be a lot bigger than his since you press 50lbs more. I just think it would be interesting to see...

No, I have no pics right now. You misunderstand my logic. Here's how logic would apply here:

I have really only done presses for my shoulders. My press started at 55 lbs. Now that I've more than tripled this number, my shoulders have increased quite a bit in size. But if I was still at a much lower press, my shoulders would be smaller even if I did all kinds of pumping exercises, thus wasting my time.

 

[Dorian'sDisciple]

If you didn't see how it was constructive, read it again. If you still don't, then that's your problem. After reading your training philosphies you could benefit from it as well. You would do well to forget that the pump even exists, because it means NOTHING in terms of strength and growth.

Earthquake sized BUMP bro. Jkurl no need to hijack the guy's nuts becuase he spoke the truth. Debaser said 'no offence' if a post is prefaced in such a way I don't see how someone can get so worked up.

Perfect form and progressive poundages is what builds muscle (except in walkingbeast but he is a MUTANT ).

Some guys (not looking at jkurz ) need to understand that the pump means NOTHING,NADA,NIL,ZERO when it comes to building muscle. Think about it...according to your twisted logic it's in the PUMP UP room before a show that bodybuilders actually build muscle.

Little experiment for you boys to try at home:

Go into a crab most muscular and tense hard,holdin the contraction ..do this twenty times and then do the same thing with a concentration curl.. now look in the mirror.

1.are you pumped? yes

2.did you build any muscle? no

 

[JKurz1]

so, if I say "no offense" but fuck you, is that offensive?

 

[Dorian'sDisciple]

It's hardly constructive

Desbaser was imparting knowledge,helping to educate a guy who has complained that he is skinny and making slow progress. That's hardly a 'fuck you' which is totally unhelpful and not what debaser said/did

 

[JKurz1]

Did you miss his post or did I?? The dude said he's 230 and making progress, no? So why change what works? He's making PROGRESS!!!!!!

Also, Debaser countered with "who cares" which offers no constructive crisitism and sets the tone.........this isnt the first time he's thrashed someones style.........hey, diferrent strokes for different folks........you go out and train the Dorian style (1 set) and let him train like he wants.........until he says "can you help me with my routine?" then leave it alone......my point is, I'm tired of people thrashing one's workoput principles and force feeding theres....hey, if it works for you, fantastic........

 

[Dorian'sDisciple]

We will have to agree to disagree. Debaser can and does help a lot of people and that's what I think he did here

 

[Dieharder]

No, I have no pics right now. You misunderstand my logic. Here's how logic would apply here:

I have really only done presses for my shoulders. My press started at 55 lbs. Now that I've more than tripled this number, my shoulders have increased quite a bit in size. But if I was still at a much lower press, my shoulders would be smaller even if I did all kinds of pumping exercises, thus wasting my time.

he said he is making progress, whats to say that he hasnt also doubled or tripled the weight he started pressing? I agree completely with what you say about if you are putting up more and more weight every week then you will be bigger,hell, i never do isolation movements, the closest i come to one is cg benches, but the way you attacked him was unneccesary.

 

[chewyxrage]

also...sweed posted pics.

dude has huge shoulders.

 

[chewyxrage]

for shits and giggles.....sweed hope ya don't mind.

 

[JKurz1]

Yeah...so what? They would be three times that size if he did EXACTLY what Debaser says to do in all his posts........maybe even 4 times....and he would be leaner, more jacked, and getting more chicks........